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Old 12-05-2006, 03:39 PM   #1
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Re: What was the LLoyd vs ARE arguement about at the end of the game?

Let's find out all the facts before we crucify him. To say that he hasn't produced just isn't fair. Let's say for example Al S. had him on his Chiefs team last year. Would he have produced? My guess would be yes.
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Old 12-05-2006, 03:48 PM   #2
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Let's find out all the facts before we crucify him. To say that he hasn't produced just isn't fair. Let's say for example Al S. had him on his Chiefs team last year. Would he have produced? My guess would be yes.
Good idea, let's reserve our ultimate judgement until we know some more info.
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Old 12-05-2006, 04:07 PM   #3
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Re: What was the LLoyd vs ARE arguement about at the end of the game?

David Patten has injury problems, he's missed most of the last two seasons. Today we have systematically dised both Lloyd, and Ranlde El which means we're down to Moss and Thrash. What are we going to do?
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Old 12-05-2006, 08:58 PM   #4
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Re: What was the LLoyd vs ARE arguement about at the end of the game?

All recievers drop balls. I am glad someone shows disgust in the way the Redskins are playing.
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Old 12-05-2006, 10:02 PM   #5
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All recievers drop balls. I am glad someone shows disgust in the way the Redskins are playing.
Isn't that like the pot calling the kettle black? Lloyd has made as many good plays as he has bad ones.....just like the rest of the team. It would be one thing if he was just getting pissed at himself, but it sounds like he's venting on teammates.
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Old 12-05-2006, 09:59 PM   #6
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Re: What was the LLoyd vs ARE arguement about at the end of the game?

Why would anyone expect these two wr's to put up big numbers here , when they have not done it in Sf and Pittsburgh ? Loyd is only good for a few deep passes a year , and R El averaged around 35 catches / year . They screwed up trading a 3rd and 4th for loyd .
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Old 12-07-2006, 12:49 PM   #7
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Old 12-07-2006, 12:55 PM   #8
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Re: What was the LLoyd vs ARE arguement about at the end of the game?

Buster, how do you factor in things like if the ball was headed in Lloyd's direction but sailed out of bounds, or was intercepted before it got to him? Those would count as looks right, but shouldn't as drops I don't think.
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Re: What was the LLoyd vs ARE arguement about at the end of the game?

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Buster, how do you factor in things like if the ball was headed in Lloyd's direction but sailed out of bounds, or was intercepted before it got to him? Those would count as looks right, but shouldn't as drops I don't think.
No, I stated that I know they're not ALL drops...but we can't possibly think that both Brunell and Campbell are only throwing bad balls to Lloyd. Moss is even smaller than he is, I believe, so that can't be an issue with overthrows.

The stat that he's only catching about half of the throws of everyone else is just alarming. It CAN'T be a fluke.
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:22 PM   #10
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No, I stated that I know they're not ALL drops...but we can't possibly think that both Brunell and Campbell are only throwing bad balls to Lloyd.
Oh ok. I missed that part of it. Thanks
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Old 12-07-2006, 12:57 PM   #11
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Re: What was the LLoyd vs ARE arguement about at the end of the game?

Even Brunell had a pissed look on his face several weeks back when he threw to Loyd & he didn't adjust to the ball. It looked like MB was mad that he didn't complete the route.
Good route running is hard work & often requires precision on the part of wr & qb. Speed & hands get wr's into the nfl, but route running separates the good ones from the rest. I just don't think Loyd looks like he's in sync w/coverages & his responsiblities. Maybe a yr. in the system will change that.
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:40 PM   #12
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Re: What was the LLoyd vs ARE arguement about at the end of the game?

He is our downfield guy, he only get midrange and deep looks, while moss and randle el get a lot more short balls, so the % may be skewed, but still, very bad % on his part.
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