B. Lloyd Makes Interesting Comments

RobH4413 · 12-07-2006, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Redskin

I think what he was trying to say here is that he is not going to change his attitude becuase we saw a bad side of it no matter what light it is shown in.

So he's still is going to throw his helmet for a penalty when he's frustrated?

I don't want that on my team. Don't underestimate the importance of chemistry in the NFL. It's crucial, and if a player is threatening that, than he doesn't belong on the team. We may need to seriously evaluate whether or not it's in our best interest to keep him on the squad for next year.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not giving up on Lloyd yet, but he needs a change in attitude ASAP. I'm hoping someone like Moss or Portis will sit down with him and try to talk man to man with him, mabye give him some much needed perspective. I know it was just yesterday I was defending him, but these latest comments have irked me.

Players, especially mediocre ones, need to keep their mouths shut, and emotions under control. I'm not the least bit sympathetic for someone making more money than I'll probably ever see to play a game.

Hey Brandon : Less talkie, more catchie.

mheisig · 12-07-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskin

I think what he was trying to say here is that he is not going to change his attitude becuase we saw a bad side of it no matter what light it is shown in.

Nothing is better than a person unwilling to change...that's a recipe for success.

Especially when the guy who won't change is 10-41 over his career.

MTK · 12-07-2006, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RobH4413

Quite frankly he sounds very immature. I'd expect something like my little brother to say those things. (now that I think about it, my brother never would say those things).

Growing up being told your amazing at everything does something to your ego. When people tell you how awesome you are, it goes strait to your head. You start blabbing stuff out like a 5 year old... but don't take my word for it:

"I've had this personality since I was about 5 years old. And if I ever thought it was a problem, I would have changed it. I'm okay with this kind of attention. So if I thought it was a problem, I would have changed it 20 years ago."

Without a doubt he's immature.

I can't believe some people are buying this as him caring about winning.

He's no different than a 2 year old throwing a temper tantrum.

While I don't think this situation is a huge deal, but it's definitely something worth keeping an eye on down the road. Something to stick in your back pocket if you will.

djnemo65 · 12-07-2006, 01:03 AM

We are a long long way from "B. Lloyd, I'm starting to like this guy" huh? I still can't quite fathom the way things have turned out for this team.

jdlea · 12-07-2006, 08:42 AM

I really don't give a shit what the first thing Gibbs said to him was. I think it's funny that the reporter threw the W-L record out there of Brandon Lloyd's teams...as though WRs win football games. He should be frustrated, Moss should be frustrated, ARE, Campbell, Betts, the o line, the defense, and the whole fucking organization should be frustrated. They spent all that money just to suck again! Who disagrees with the guys who said they'd finish last in the division now? I don't know what the hell is wrong with the this team/organization. I don't pretend to, but the problem wasn't Lloyd tossing his helmet after they had lost the ball and the game was over, short of a kneel down. It's a little bit bigger than that. It's not Brandon Lloyd's fault they're losing games and he's not a cancer. He goes out and plays hard. He threw a great block for Cooley last week on the td and got downfield to make a block this week. The guy plays with heart and he gets pissed when they lose...GOOD! They all should be pissed when they lose. They shouldn't have this bs, "The ball didn't bounce our way, but they fought their guts out." Hey...NEWS FLASH...losing is NOT okay. Something needs to change...and it needs to change soon!

724Skinsfan · 12-07-2006, 08:53 AM

One decent thing about this is that Gibbs is proactive about trying to retain Lloyd. He's not turning his back on him nor labeling him as a malcontent. Sometimes guys need a reality check, Gibbs sat him down and gave him one ( I guess). We'll know soon enough if this meeting was beneficial for the Redskins or a waste of time and reseources.

PS: TAFKAS, that figures you'd swap your no-name sig sponsor for a marquee name like Mattyk72. Sell-out!

jdlea · 12-07-2006, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

One decent thing about this is that Gibbs is proactive about trying to retain Lloyd. He's not turning his back on him nor labeling him as a malcontent. Sometimes guys need a reality check, Gibbs sat him down and gave him one ( I guess). We'll know soon enough if this meeting was beneficial for the Redskins or a waste of time and reseources.

PS: TAFKAS, that figures you'd swap your no-name sig sponsor for a marquee name like Mattyk72. Sell-out!

That's a good point. If Gibbs told him never to do that again and then he goes out and does it anyway. Then I'll be upset, but being frustrated about losing a football game doesn't make me think he's not worth having on the team/make him a bad teammate.

Longtimefan · 12-07-2006, 10:24 AM

After reading that article in the Post this morning, it's difficult for me to believe Gibbs has taken to the kind of resolve he has in dealing with Brandon Lloyd. I say this because when one takes into total contex all the things he has said in defense of himself, none of it makes any sense. What he said only leads me to believe that at some point in time he will do the same thing again. He never mentioned he has apologized to his teamates or coaches, rather left me with the impression he's entitled to this kind of behavior.
His being frustrated about how things have been going is reasonable, but his behavior is not. I haven't seen any other player react that way, and I'm sure they're all frustrated as well. I firmly believe Gibbs should have taken a harder line with this guy because his overall attitude leads me to believe we've not seen the last of this kind of behavior from Lloyd.

skins052bgr8 · 12-07-2006, 08:03 PM

It is funny as Hell most people on the board get pissed because of the broad information on the teams troubles, no one seems to care, no emotion. Yeah it was a stupid penalty, but at what time do you just explode, is 4-8 record in a game that has your last slim chance for playoffs. What can you do to show emotion without someone taking it out of context that your selfish not a team player get rid of you?

Maybe go over to the sidelines and let a major fart to blow off steam, but it has to be a silent one because if another player hears it and gets offended a reporter will tell you he was pissed off and intentionally farted on J. Campbell and messing up team chemistry.

Maybe he can be so I am so pissed off that can just go off and say here are the problems, then he has to apoligize after each comment. Jansen missed blocks all day, I'm sorry Jansen, Campbell threw a costly interception and made a dumb mistake, cost us the game, but I am so so sorry, just pissed.

How in the hell can someone say the team needs to show some emotion when if you say anything bad at all it gets blown out of context. When is someone going to grab someone on the field and say what the hell was that dumb ass play, you missed the tackle don't do the shit again. Who cares if everyone sees it. It's an emotional game and a violent game, so he threw a helmet who gives a crap.

MTK · 12-07-2006, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by skins052bgr8

It is funny as Hell most people on the board get pissed because of the broad information on the teams troubles, no one seems to care, no emotion. Yeah it was a stupid penalty, but at what time do you just explode, is 4-8 record in a game that has your last slim chance for playoffs. What can you do to show emotion without someone taking it out of context that your selfish not a team player get rid of you?

Maybe go over to the sidelines and let a major fart to blow off steam, but it has to be a silent one because if another player hears it and gets offended a reporter will tell you he was pissed off and intentionally farted on J. Campbell and messing up team chemistry.

Maybe he can be so I am so pissed off that can just go off and say here are the problems, then he has to apoligize after each comment. Jansen missed blocks all day, I'm sorry Jansen, Campbell threw a costly interception and made a dumb mistake, cost us the game, but I am so so sorry, just pissed.

How in the hell can someone say the team needs to show some emotion when if you say anything bad at all it gets blown out of context. When is someone going to grab someone on the field and say what the hell was that dumb ass play, you missed the tackle don't do the shit again. Who cares if everyone sees it. It's an emotional game and a violent game, so he threw a helmet who gives a crap.

It's obviously a culmination of things with the helmet tossing incident being the last straw that led to Gibbs sitting down with him. It's not as simple as he tossed his helmet so that's why he's in trouble.

Rexi · 12-07-2006, 09:21 PM

I guess I was wrong about Lloyd.

backrow · 12-08-2006, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rexi

I ....... I ........... Lloyd.

Both you and Lloyd are all about the "I", aren't you?

What's in the water out there on the left coast, anyway?

Rexi · 12-08-2006, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by backrow

Both you and Lloyd are all about the "I", aren't you?

What's in the water out there on the left coast, anyway?

Never compare Lloyd and myself again please...

dgack · 12-08-2006, 01:12 AM

Well, either way, you were wrong about Bryant, the jury's still out on Lloyd.

For all of you pointing out what a professional Santana is, remember that he was tagged with the "bad attitude" label in New York just a few years ago, too.

Given that #81's my personal patron saint of receivers, I'm not much for the guys who talk more than they perform (God bless Chad Johnson, he does both). But I'll give Lloyd another season to find himself, grow up, and gel with the offense and his new QB, before passing ultimate judgement. If he's not putting up big numbers next year, though...

cpayne5 · 12-07-2006, 07:42 AM

Seems to me that this is being blown way out of proportion. Yeah, he got a penalty that cost us the team, but I don't care. I'd rather see this type of emotion after a game has been lost than the regular "yeah, that's just the way it goes" crap that just about every other player on the team conveys.

I don't think he is that selfish. I believe that he wants to win more than anything, and I respect that. Remember the Portis TD earlier in the season where he made a good block the secure the edge for Portis and then went crazy because they scored?

If throwing a helmet is a sin, then go crucify Cooley, too. He broke one earlier in the season that the equipment staff had repair during a game. The only difference is that he was outside of the white lines when it happened.

The bottom line for me is that I like seeing some fire from any player that wants to explode during a year such as this. To me, it shows desire.

12-07-2006, 01:03 AM	#4
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: B. Lloyd Makes Interesting Comments We are a long long way from "B. Lloyd, I'm starting to like this guy" huh? I still can't quite fathom the way things have turned out for this team.

12-07-2006, 08:42 AM	#5
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,109	Re: B. Lloyd Makes Interesting Comments I really don't give a shit what the first thing Gibbs said to him was. I think it's funny that the reporter threw the W-L record out there of Brandon Lloyd's teams...as though WRs win football games. He should be frustrated, Moss should be frustrated, ARE, Campbell, Betts, the o line, the defense, and the whole fucking organization should be frustrated. They spent all that money just to suck again! Who disagrees with the guys who said they'd finish last in the division now? I don't know what the hell is wrong with the this team/organization. I don't pretend to, but the problem wasn't Lloyd tossing his helmet after they had lost the ball and the game was over, short of a kneel down. It's a little bit bigger than that. It's not Brandon Lloyd's fault they're losing games and he's not a cancer. He goes out and plays hard. He threw a great block for Cooley last week on the td and got downfield to make a block this week. The guy plays with heart and he gets pissed when they lose...GOOD! They all should be pissed when they lose. They shouldn't have this bs, "The ball didn't bounce our way, but they fought their guts out." Hey...NEWS FLASH...losing is NOT okay. Something needs to change...and it needs to change soon!

12-07-2006, 08:53 AM	#6
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: B. Lloyd Makes Interesting Comments One decent thing about this is that Gibbs is proactive about trying to retain Lloyd. He's not turning his back on him nor labeling him as a malcontent. Sometimes guys need a reality check, Gibbs sat him down and gave him one ( I guess). We'll know soon enough if this meeting was beneficial for the Redskins or a waste of time and reseources. PS: TAFKAS, that figures you'd swap your no-name sig sponsor for a marquee name like Mattyk72. Sell-out! __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

12-07-2006, 08:03 PM	#9
skins052bgr8 Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Richmond, Va. Age: 50 Posts: 288	Re: B. Lloyd Makes Interesting Comments It is funny as Hell most people on the board get pissed because of the broad information on the teams troubles, no one seems to care, no emotion. Yeah it was a stupid penalty, but at what time do you just explode, is 4-8 record in a game that has your last slim chance for playoffs. What can you do to show emotion without someone taking it out of context that your selfish not a team player get rid of you? Maybe go over to the sidelines and let a major fart to blow off steam, but it has to be a silent one because if another player hears it and gets offended a reporter will tell you he was pissed off and intentionally farted on J. Campbell and messing up team chemistry. Maybe he can be so I am so pissed off that can just go off and say here are the problems, then he has to apoligize after each comment. Jansen missed blocks all day, I'm sorry Jansen, Campbell threw a costly interception and made a dumb mistake, cost us the game, but I am so so sorry, just pissed. How in the hell can someone say the team needs to show some emotion when if you say anything bad at all it gets blown out of context. When is someone going to grab someone on the field and say what the hell was that dumb ass play, you missed the tackle don't do the shit again. Who cares if everyone sees it. It's an emotional game and a violent game, so he threw a helmet who gives a crap.

12-07-2006, 09:21 PM	#11
Rexi Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 344	Re: B. Lloyd Makes Interesting Comments I guess I was wrong about Lloyd. __________________ "Nobody in football should be called a genius. A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein."- Joe Theismann

12-07-2006, 10:24 AM	#8
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: B. Lloyd Makes Interesting Comments After reading that article in the Post this morning, it's difficult for me to believe Gibbs has taken to the kind of resolve he has in dealing with Brandon Lloyd. I say this because when one takes into total contex all the things he has said in defense of himself, none of it makes any sense. What he said only leads me to believe that at some point in time he will do the same thing again. He never mentioned he has apologized to his teamates or coaches, rather left me with the impression he's entitled to this kind of behavior. His being frustrated about how things have been going is reasonable, but his behavior is not. I haven't seen any other player react that way, and I'm sure they're all frustrated as well. I firmly believe Gibbs should have taken a harder line with this guy because his overall attitude leads me to believe we've not seen the last of this kind of behavior from Lloyd. __________________ A revolution is coming and it will be televised.

12-08-2006, 01:12 AM	#14
dgack The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The ATX (formerly Balmer) Posts: 1,125	Re: B. Lloyd Makes Interesting Comments Well, either way, you were wrong about Bryant, the jury's still out on Lloyd. For all of you pointing out what a professional Santana is, remember that he was tagged with the "bad attitude" label in New York just a few years ago, too. Given that #81's my personal patron saint of receivers, I'm not much for the guys who talk more than they perform (God bless Chad Johnson, he does both). But I'll give Lloyd another season to find himself, grow up, and gel with the offense and his new QB, before passing ultimate judgement. If he's not putting up big numbers next year, though...

12-07-2006, 07:42 AM	#15
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	Re: B. Lloyd Makes Interesting Comments Seems to me that this is being blown way out of proportion. Yeah, he got a penalty that cost us the team, but I don't care. I'd rather see this type of emotion after a game has been lost than the regular "yeah, that's just the way it goes" crap that just about every other player on the team conveys. I don't think he is that selfish. I believe that he wants to win more than anything, and I respect that. Remember the Portis TD earlier in the season where he made a good block the secure the edge for Portis and then went crazy because they scored? If throwing a helmet is a sin, then go crucify Cooley, too. He broke one earlier in the season that the equipment staff had repair during a game. The only difference is that he was outside of the white lines when it happened. The bottom line for me is that I like seeing some fire from any player that wants to explode during a year such as this. To me, it shows desire.

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