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Old 01-08-2007, 09:53 PM   #1
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Gibbs acts like JC is a frickin little baby. He needs to stop coddleling him. Sending 3 guys out on 3rd down is outdated. JC STARTED AT AURBURN FOR 4 YEARS. He can handle it. In certain situations you can send out 5 guys. Like on 1st down? Not all the time but some of the time you have to do it. This is why we don't score enough TD's becasue our offense is too conservative. Or how about running a hurry up offense next year some of the time? I watched Pennington do it and he can't even throw the ball. We need to diversify the offense.
What makes you think JC can handle reading a defense that quickly? Did he learn that at Auburn? Did Alabama or Florida use a Jim Johnson blitz disguise? Did Tennessee or Vanderbilt use a 3-4 like Dallas?

Get the F out of here with the notion that Campbell's four years at Auburn have any bearing on his readiness here at this level. Are you serious with that? College ball?

It takes QBs a while to learn. Here's a little food for thought: over our first 10 games, with Saunders free to run his offense how he saw fit, we scored 18 points per game. With Gibbs reasserting himself over the last six games, calling a more conservative gameplan with more power running and max protection, we scored 21 points per game. It's really hard to argue we're better off with Saunders' method, especially with our offensive personnel.
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Get the F out of here with the notion that Campbell's four years at Auburn have any bearing on his readiness here at this level. Are you serious with that? College ball?
History does show that more starts in college are condusive to NFL success. I think theres something to that. Not sure it matters though whether he started 4 years at Auburn or 4 years at Middle Tennessee State, expierience is expierience. (Of course, one would expect that the "MTSU Campbell" would have better numbers than the Auburn Campbell)

But I agree that a statement that starting 4 years at the college level makes you prepared to handle blitz packages at the NFL level right away is pretty retarded. If that was the case, there wouldn't be a learning curve.
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Old 01-09-2007, 11:18 PM   #3
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What makes you think JC can handle reading a defense that quickly? Did he learn that at Auburn? Did Alabama or Florida use a Jim Johnson blitz disguise? Did Tennessee or Vanderbilt use a 3-4 like Dallas?

Get the F out of here with the notion that Campbell's four years at Auburn have any bearing on his readiness here at this level. Are you serious with that? College ball?

It takes QBs a while to learn. Here's a little food for thought: over our first 10 games, with Saunders free to run his offense how he saw fit, we scored 18 points per game. With Gibbs reasserting himself over the last six games, calling a more conservative gameplan with more power running and max protection, we scored 21 points per game. It's really hard to argue we're better off with Saunders' method, especially with our offensive personnel.
Yes I'm serious. It would be different if he played at Air Force. But he ran pro style offenses, and that makes him more ready for the NFL game. So you mean to tell me that sending out three guys on let's say 30 pass plays a game is a good NFL passing game plan??? If you think that's going to get it done in today's NFL then send me some of the Kool Aid your drinking. And don't give me that 3 point difference BS. It was a struggle to get 200 yards passing. The power running game is nice but you can't try and run everybody over all the time. The bottom line is we need more out of the passing game. I hope Charles Johnson is sitting there at the 6th pick.
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At least we're not all still bitter about the season.
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With regard to the size of the coaching staff being an issue, that argument holds some water. Sonny and Sam mentioned that issue in during the game against the Eagles when the Redskins got called for too many men in the huddle and it helped kill their drive. It seems that having the 40 headed monster for a coaching staff might lead to some confusion amongst the players.
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Old 01-08-2007, 01:22 PM   #13
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When an actor is playing a role and he doesn't believe in what he's doing, doesn't know how to play the role with any confidence, then the audience doesn't believe in him, and everything comes off as false.

The Redskins were asked on offense to play a new role, and they didn't believe in what they were doing, didn't play the role with any confidence, and the fans didn't believe in them, and everything came off as false in general.

The mistake the Redskins made was not including the players in the decision making process as to what kind of offense to run. Maybe that is not normally done, but I think it was called for here. It is one thing to hire Saunders without consulting the players, but it is another to impose an offense on them without the players having any real say in the matter.

Joe Gibbs didn't realize that the offense of Saunders was going to be so different. On paper, maybe it didn't look as different, but in terms of the mindset of the players playing it, it is very different.

Finally Coach Gibbs realized that we had to go back to Redskins football. That means football that the Redskins know how to play - roles they are confident in playing out, that ring true when they do. Gibbs has his personality and that is what sets the tone with the team. Saunders came in and starting playing a different tone, and the two didn't mix.

So now the task is for Saunders to recognize that he has to adapt his system to the team, and not simply try to impose his system and let them sink or swim.

I am hopeful that things will work out. I am optimistic about next season.
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When an actor is playing a role and he doesn't believe in what he's doing, doesn't know how to play the role with any confidence, then the audience doesn't believe in him, and everything comes off as false.

The Redskins were asked on offense to play a new role, and they didn't believe in what they were doing, didn't play the role with any confidence, and the fans didn't believe in them, and everything came off as false in general.

The mistake the Redskins made was not including the players in the decision making process as to what kind of offense to run. Maybe that is not normally done, but I think it was called for here. It is one thing to hire Saunders without consulting the players, but it is another to impose an offense on them without the players having any real say in the matter.

Joe Gibbs didn't realize that the offense of Saunders was going to be so different. On paper, maybe it didn't look as different, but in terms of the mindset of the players playing it, it is very different.

Finally Coach Gibbs realized that we had to go back to Redskins football. That means football that the Redskins know how to play - roles they are confident in playing out, that ring true when they do. Gibbs has his personality and that is what sets the tone with the team. Saunders came in and starting playing a different tone, and the two didn't mix.

So now the task is for Saunders to recognize that he has to adapt his system to the team, and not simply try to impose his system and let them sink or swim.

I am hopeful that things will work out. I am optimistic about next season.
Real nice post.
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When Campbell, Moss, Randle El, and (maybe) Lloyd have time to get on the same page, this offense should be able to do whatever it wants, whenever it wants.
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