Walt Harris to the Pro Bowl

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by marius

Lito Sheppard's injury means that Walt Harris is now a pro bowler. This just endorses another great FO decision from the skins. 6 interceptions in the season and NFC defensive player of the month in November. Still, our corners all had great years so we didn't need that kind of production...

Chalk up another one to the worst front office in football. Another scapegoat goes on to glory while we win a handfull of games.

Nice one Vinny or Danny or Joe or whoever the hell makes all of the idiotic moves on a regular basis....

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Chalk up another one to the worst front office in football. Another scapegoat goes on to glory while we win a handfull of games.

Nice one Vinny or Danny or Joe or whoever the hell makes all of the idiotic moves on a regular basis....

I don't think anyone saw Harris' 2006 campaign. I was watching him and thought he was a dime back at best. I can't blame the front office for that one.

[Rexi]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I don't think anyone saw Harris' 2006 campaign. I was watching him and thought he was a dime back at best. I can't blame the front office for that one.

Were you paying attention when you were watching him?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Rexi

Were you paying attention when you were watching him?

Yup and he looked awful. He missed a ton of tackles, got burnt on double moves and on go routes by anyone faster than an offensive lineman. He looked absolutely silly in a game against the Eagles at FedEx (anyone remember that?). You, however, probably were not watching him last year, that is unless you are a closet Redskins fan.

[Rexi]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Yup and he looked awful. He missed a ton of tackles, got burnt on double moves and on go routes by anyone faster than an offensive lineman. He looked absolutely silly in a game against the Eagles at FedEx (anyone remember that?). You, however, probably were not watching him last year, that is unless you are a closet Redskins fan.

You're right I didn't watch him last year. Maybe he was terrible I don't know, but you typed 2006 campaign (that would be THIS year) and this year he was fantastic.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I don't think anyone saw Harris' 2006 campaign. I was watching him and thought he was a dime back at best. I can't blame the front office for that one.

Except his '05 campaign was better than Wright's '06. They need to stop with the churn and burn mentality. Change for the sake of change does not work. I would like to know who decided that it would improve the team to drop Harris for an unknown entity.

Hell forget the question of switching Wright for Harris, what makes Rogers better than Harris? At least Harris can catch a ball that hits him in the hands.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Except his '05 campaign was better than Wright's '06. They need to stop with the churn and burn mentality. Change for the sake of change does not work. I would like to know who decided that it would improve the team to drop Harris for an unknown entity.

Hell forget the question of switching Wright for Harris, what makes Rogers better than Harris? At least Harris can catch a ball that hits him in the hands.

We needed the cap room. Bad.

Harris could have started here after Springs went down...Oh well. He wasn't better than Wright in 05, and he is awful against double moves, but with all the pass rush we got this year that wouldn't have hurt us, right?

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

We needed the cap room. Bad.

Harris could have started here after Springs went down...Oh well. He wasn't better than Wright in 05, and he is awful against double moves, but with all the pass rush we got this year that wouldn't have hurt us, right?

Did we really need it at the time? I thought we had about 3 million in space the whole year.

Anyway, it is too late to do anything about it now. Harris may make the Pro-bowl because he made plays this year but no one is afraid to throw at him and San Fran's D isn't exactly intimidating.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Except his '05 campaign was better than Wright's '06. They need to stop with the churn and burn mentality. Change for the sake of change does not work. I would like to know who decided that it would improve the team to drop Harris for an unknown entity.

Hell forget the question of switching Wright for Harris, what makes Rogers better than Harris? At least Harris can catch a ball that hits him in the hands.

But it's not like Wright was a nobody. Plus, if I remember right, Harris (who, as mentioned, had a less than impressive 2005 season) left before we signed Wright and for the double the money we signed Wright to. So it's possible maybe, just maybe, that Wright just wanted to go. And it wasn't worth it to fight to keep him.

I don't know. I mean like I've said the move made perfect sense at the time but sometimes things just backfire. It's not a bad decision, just unfortunate results

[marius]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I don't think anyone saw Harris' 2006 campaign. I was watching him and thought he was a dime back at best. I can't blame the front office for that one.

The problem is that the Redskins FO does get the benefit of the doubt because they almost always make the wrong decision. The track record of the FO in the Snyder years is pretty dreadful. It has been like a perfect storm of bad decisions - get rid of solid players who know the system (they then go on to be pro bowlers elsewhere) and bring in overpriced players who underperform.

[dmek25]

your welcome. and after you guys win 5 games next season, we will never hear from you again

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by dmek25

your welcome. and after you guys win 5 games next season, we will never hear from you again

At this moment, they look like they are in better shape than us for next year.

That being said, I think that G-dub is going to put a top 10 defense on the field next year. It may sound crazy now but what if someone said that we would have a top 3 D after the '03 campaign.

[AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace]

Harris was not solid...I remember cursing his name every single game in 05, and Wright looked like a steal. A former starter from a playoff team brought in to play the nickel...come on...you would have to be a fortune teller to see this one coming. Clark was the one the front office bungled. Now lets all just hope the FO has the common sense to go after him or Smoot should either hit the market

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace

Harris was not solid...I remember cursing his name every single game in 05, and Wright looked like a steal. A former starter from a playoff team brought in to play the nickel...come on...you would have to be a fortune teller to see this one coming. Clark was the one the front office bungled. Now lets all just hope the FO has the common sense to go after him or Smoot should either hit the market

Well, we can't say Harris wasn't really that solid can we? The reason I say that is because our secondary has played the same exact way without Harris, while Harris himself has gone on and redeemed himself with another team.

I maintain, we have coaching issues and until we realize that, Nate Clements or Ronnie Lott, for that matter, 'aint going to make that much of a difference.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Well, we can't say Harris wasn't really that solid can we? The reason I say that is because our secondary has played the same exact way without Harris, while Harris himself has gone on and redeemed himself with another team.

I maintain, we have coaching issues and until we realize that, Nate Clements or Ronnie Lott, for that matter, 'aint going to make that much of a difference.

I'm sure I cursed Harris' name a few times in '05, but he did have the 4th down stop in Dallas that preserved the "Ring of Shame" game.

But what Marius said earlier is exactly right: Call it bad luck, hindsight, crystal ball, whatever -- the bottom line is that this front office made the call and it was the wrong one. One of many, as we've seen.

But I disagree that the problem is coaching. Defensive coaching in '04 was fantastic with the #3 overall ranking. But players like Daniels, Griffin, Salave'a, get a year or two older, lose a step and no one is groomed to replace them. You lose Antonio Pierce and get guys like Mike Barrow and Warrick Holdman. Those aren't bad coaching moves - they're bad personnel decisions. Granted, the system apparently allows the coaches to make many if not most of those choices, but it's not a "coaching problem" in general.