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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Evanston, IL
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Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF
I think its hard for anyone (Black, White, Asian, Rich, Poor, Religious, Non-believing, Cowboys Fan, intelligent football analyst, ignorant sportswriter) to say that Michael Irvin is clear cut better than Art Monk was. Their stats are pretty similar, Monk was better for longer, and Irvin has the better yards per catch (He also has nearly 200 fewer catches).
I don't have a big problem with Irvin getting in before Monk, but I have a huge problem with anyone who thinks that Irvin DID deserve to get in and also thinks that Art Monk DOESNT deserve it. That person owes me a personal explination.
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Fairfax, VA
Age: 50
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Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF
Just another example of how even negative press is better than no press. A crackhead loudmouth gets in before Monk. I don't know which was worse Irvin or Carson.
I swear that the negative bias by the media towards Snyder is a factor. |
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Roanoke, VA
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Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF
Irvin. I told my wife earlier this morning "the only way this day could be worse if Monk doesn't get in was if Irvin gets in first."
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Playmaker
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Richmond VA
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Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF
**** IRVIN! I cant believe that coke-addled retarded piece of no count garbage got in b4 MONK! What the flying HELL! I am SOOOOOO mad.....i feel ya 724 skinsfan...i said the same thing...it could only get worse if Irvin gets in first. Screw that foolish HOF commitee. They have no clue WTF they are doing. Monk didnt make memorable catches my ASS! I agree sheriff gonna getcha, they should have a voting commitee of eother people who played with him or against him during his years, or other HOF players/coaches.
This is a sad day not in just Redskins history, but in the history of mankind. The f-ing world has lost its godddam mind Putting Irvin in there first.
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Special Teams
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: somewhere on this planet
Age: 63
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it's all political bullshit!if they put in 8 ball irvin and andre reed before monk,that just shows me that all the assholes who vote in the hof balloting,are voting because they just can't kiss a guy like irvin,or howie long's enough.i was gonna try to go this summer,but i'll doubt i'll ever go now!!!!!
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: washington, D.C.
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Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF
I mean, Charlie Pride made it in. Wasn't he a singer?
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The Starter
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: The ATX (formerly Balmer)
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Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF
If you want to do something about this, let's stop thinking small and annoying like spamming the hacks who snubbed Art, or writing letters to Canton (who clearly don't care).
See my thread: http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...thing-art.html And let's get something going. I've already contacted Tom K. of Monk4TheHall.com (the guy who put the great YouTube video campaign together) and he's in. Who else is with me? |
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Impact Rookie
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Fayettenam, NC
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Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF
this is unbelieveable...have the folks who do the voting not seen the video clips of some of his catches...this blows my mind. art monk deserves to be in the hall...not to sound like a homer...but as far as i am concerned is a hall of famer in my book.
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF
the more i read everyone elses posts the madder i get. micheal irvin before art monk you have got to be kidding me. getting elected to the hall is more of a popularity contest than anything else these days...what a joke. I am gonna mass email the video i saw here to all the voters whose email address i can find.
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Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF
If you really want to honor Art, let's stop acting the way Irvin did in his career, and start acting the way Art did.
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Richmond VA
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Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF
Quote:
I feel pwned.
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF
does anyone have Gary Clark's career stats? and that theory is baloney, because we can say that Emmitt Smith was more of a threat then Irvin. and what memorable catch does Irvin have? i really cant see any justification for monk not being elected
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Wildcard Bitches
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Bethesda, MD
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Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF
I'm so effin pissed. I've spent way to much time commiserating with basically everyone that isn't a HOF voter.
I'm so disgusted with the NFL right now.
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Greensboro, North Carolina
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Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF
I can see where Irish is coming from with this. It is more of an argument of popularity....staying in the publics eye and reminding them of who you are, rather than to let your actions as a player and a person speak for themselves. If Monk got into the broadcast both Sunday in and Sunday, he would have been selected years ago. But, because he chose to take the road of being a normal person, walking away from the game completely and enjoying his life with his family, that isn't as impressive looking to the media. Until that changes, the selection process of the Hall of Fame will always be broken.
In a perfect world, players are chosen according to how they were as a player AND how they were as a person. By selecting players to the HoF, we are basically saying, these are the greatest players/persons to ever play the game of football. These guys are worthy of your worship. Now of course, I don't believe anybody is worthy of worship except for Jesus Christ, but you get the picture. Those who select these HoFer's don't consider substance abuse, violent and/or homicidal tendencies, being arrested......I believe a true Hall of Fame does look at the personal factors. I think is should be so selective, that only a very few should get in. Heck, there might only be one person who gets in per year, but that is the only way the HoF would be credible in my opinion.
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: lancaster,pa
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Re: Art Monk Denied Admission to the HoF
i am the opposite of this. i think players should be judged solely on the ability to play whatever sport they are talented in. but going strictly by stats alone, how is monk not in?
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