ok im gonna say it, cause nobody else will....

chrisl4064 · 03-10-2007, 12:14 PM

i cant stand fred smoot. hes a fan lollypop, everyone loves to yell smoooooot when he makes a play. same with cooooooley, shit anyones name they can do that with people love. lets not forget this loud mouth penalty making machine. he loves washington, no shit, we welcome him with open arms. hes not that good people. the only quality about him i like is that hes physical. but does getting smoot really better our situation, NOOOOO!!!! we are still trying to aquire more corners, why! if smoot was that good we would be done shopping.

can someone please explain to me why nobody other than myself has critisized this move bringing him here.....?

12thMan · 03-10-2007, 12:23 PM

Well here's the deal in a nutshell. Many around here (DC), Joe Gibbs included, felt that Smoot shouldn't have gotten away to begin with. In fact, Gibbs prefaced his presser with the fact that it was mistake on both sides to let Smoot go to Minni.

I think for the dollar amount he signed for, the fact he wanted to come back to the Redskins, he's 27 years old....I can go on and on really. No, it wasn't a splashy deal, but it was very solid, sensible signing for the Skins.

If Smoot stays healthy, I think it could prove to be the best off season move this year.

RMSkins · 03-10-2007, 12:25 PM

Uhh thank God you're not running this organization. First of all Smoot probably won't even start for us, and will come in on certain packages. The whole reason we signed Smoot is because we lack depth at CB, and he gives us great depth, I for one would much rather have Smoot back there than Kenny Wright, or Mike Rumph. So you better just get used to Smoot because he is going to be here for awhile.

MonkFan4Life · 03-10-2007, 12:29 PM

I think that bringing him here made perfect sense. It's not like Shawn Spring was cut and Smoot was brought in to take his place. He's back to be a #2 or a nickle back. I know he's not Bailey or Green but he's solid. He is a physical player which is something that is needed. When you have solid CB depth, which wasn't here last year, you have a better chance at holding down opposing passing games. How many times last year did you cringe at the fact that someones #3 WR was going to torch either Wright or Rumph ? How many times did you wish that Springs was backin the lineup because the guys that were starting just weren't cutting it ? Smoot is a good locker room guy, no he's not going to take a teams #1 WR out of the game but he can do what the team will ask him to do.

I wanted Fred Smoot back here because it's good for the secondary. You can't have too many quality corners especially when I had to look at that excuse for a secondary last year. You keep Springs because he can help the younger guys along and it shows a "commitment" to your guys. Smoot was one of Gibbs' core Redskins that got away so to bring him back, if just for that fact, makes perfect sense to me.

And your sig ? Seriously ? Dumbest trade ever ? Not the 100 picks the Vikings gave the Cowboys for Hershel Walker ? Not the 75 picks the Skins got from New Orleans so they could draft Ricky Williams ? Not the TJ Duckett trade but the Clinton Portis trade ? A guy who had 1315 and 1516 yards in his first two seasons in Washington. He was hurt last year so his production did drop, but seriously THAT was the dumbest trade ever ?

skinsfan_nn · 03-10-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisl4064

i cant stand fred smoot. hes a fan lollypop, everyone loves to yell smoooooot when he makes a play. same with cooooooley, shit anyones name they can do that with people love. lets not forget this loud mouth penalty making machine. he loves washington, no shit, we welcome him with open arms. hes not that good people. the only quality about him i like is that hes physical. but does getting smoot really better our situation, NOOOOO!!!! we are still trying to aquire more corners, why! if smoot was that good we would be done shopping.

can someone please explain to me why nobody other than myself has critisized this move bringing him here.....?

Not that good of people, sounds like you know him pretty well?
He was good for the team, and did well in DC the first go round. Smoot is a GOOD corner and yes he had problems in minn. so what.
He is a solid corner with good speed and covers well. He will be a starter this year. And would have been the best we had if he was here last year, due to the Springs injuries.

JankySpanky80 · 03-10-2007, 12:59 PM

Smoot brings depth to the CB situation. This was not a bad move. He knows the defense already. Why waste time even questioning this move? Its a great move probably the best besides Fletcher the skins have done in 2 years since the Moss trade.

Gmanc711 · 03-10-2007, 01:06 PM

So you'd rather not have Chris Cooley on the team, I'm taking it from your post as well? Because he has a cool name.

Furthermore, and I could be wrong, because I cant memorize plays much past 2004 at this point (leaving out 01-03), when did he get an unsportsmanlike call for his "loudmouth"?

MTK · 03-10-2007, 01:08 PM

Calm down, Smoot was a good pickup and didn't bust the bank. He's still a quality #2/#3 corner. He's certainly a huge improvement over the likes of Rumph/Wright.

XXVI · 03-10-2007, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisl4064

i cant stand fred smoot. hes a fan lollypop, everyone loves to yell smoooooot when he makes a play. same with cooooooley, shit anyones name they can do that with people love. lets not forget this loud mouth penalty making machine. he loves washington, no shit, we welcome him with open arms. hes not that good people. the only quality about him i like is that hes physical. but does getting smoot really better our situation, NOOOOO!!!! we are still trying to aquire more corners, why! if smoot was that good we would be done shopping.

can someone please explain to me why nobody other than myself has critisized this move bringing him here.....?

It's great this guy always has to argue, and everytime he tries to make a point, EVERYONE criticizes him. I won the Darrell Green/Champ Bailey argument, then he goes on to say that Fred Smoot isn't that good? He's not. He gets beat a lot, but he's depth. Is this guy ever going to give up trying to make 'player-bashing' statements and get someone to agree with him?

skinsfan69 · 03-10-2007, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RMSkins

Uhh thank God you're not running this organization. First of all Smoot probably won't even start for us, and will come in on certain packages. The whole reason we signed Smoot is because we lack depth at CB, and he gives us great depth, I for one would much rather have Smoot back there than Kenny Wright, or Mike Rumph. So you better just get used to Smoot because he is going to be here for awhile.

Amen!! Depth and quality depth is what we need at corner. If we can keep Springs then Smoot will be the 3rd corner.

beatdallas · 03-10-2007, 01:33 PM

For the money spent Smoot was a good aquisition for a team that was lacking in the secondary department. There's a saying that goes something like this "you dont miss something until it's gone" when you look at the performance of Wright and Rumph last season, the signing of Smoooot makes perfect sense. Of course we would have loved to have someone like Clements, but the fact of the matter is that the Skins simply did not have the kind of money that he was asking for. In addition you have to look at the history of the Skins signing free agents to big money and the they dont pan out. Oh by the way we have one of the highest paid SS in the league and he doesnt start.

Hail to the Redskins!

Smurf85 · 03-10-2007, 02:52 PM

So please tell me who we can get thats better than Smoot.I mean for only a 21 million dollar contract?Smoot played good as a Skin,is he a #1 CB.Probably not thats why we drafted Rogers.This is Rogers 3rd year and he must prove that he is the #1 CB.If he's not going to be that guy.Well then i guess we will be looking for another CB next year.Point is Smoot is a good #2 and great for depth.Something we need bad and some of the people in here are right.ITs a good thing your not running our front office.

dmek25 · 03-10-2007, 03:56 PM

while im not one that thinks smoot is all world, he is a definite upgrade over whoever we had playing back there last seaon( other then springs)

Crat92 · 03-10-2007, 03:58 PM

Why is everyone saying that Smoot will be a #2 corner? Are we really depending on Springs to 1. be the #1 and 2. stay healthy? Help me out on this one please.

That Guy · 03-10-2007, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Crat92

Why is everyone saying that Smoot will be a #2 corner? Are we really depending on Springs to 1. be the #1 and 2. stay healthy? Help me out on this one please.

yeah, we need springs to be the #1, cause rogers and smoot probably can't handle it.

but seriously, smoot played with a broken sternum... a BROKEN STERNUM! throwing up during half times cause of the pain, then coming back out and playing well. He had a couple bad years in minnesota, but very little of that got back here, because when he was here, he played hard, even when we were losing.

03-10-2007, 12:29 PM	#4
MonkFan4Life The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 47 Posts: 1,851	Re: ok im gonna say it, cause nobody else will.... I think that bringing him here made perfect sense. It's not like Shawn Spring was cut and Smoot was brought in to take his place. He's back to be a #2 or a nickle back. I know he's not Bailey or Green but he's solid. He is a physical player which is something that is needed. When you have solid CB depth, which wasn't here last year, you have a better chance at holding down opposing passing games. How many times last year did you cringe at the fact that someones #3 WR was going to torch either Wright or Rumph ? How many times did you wish that Springs was backin the lineup because the guys that were starting just weren't cutting it ? Smoot is a good locker room guy, no he's not going to take a teams #1 WR out of the game but he can do what the team will ask him to do. I wanted Fred Smoot back here because it's good for the secondary. You can't have too many quality corners especially when I had to look at that excuse for a secondary last year. You keep Springs because he can help the younger guys along and it shows a "commitment" to your guys. Smoot was one of Gibbs' core Redskins that got away so to bring him back, if just for that fact, makes perfect sense to me. And your sig ? Seriously ? Dumbest trade ever ? Not the 100 picks the Vikings gave the Cowboys for Hershel Walker ? Not the 75 picks the Skins got from New Orleans so they could draft Ricky Williams ? Not the TJ Duckett trade but the Clinton Portis trade ? A guy who had 1315 and 1516 yards in his first two seasons in Washington. He was hurt last year so his production did drop, but seriously THAT was the dumbest trade ever ? __________________ Catch me on YouTube ! http://www.youtube.com/user/DowntimeRB?feature=mhw5 The "punishment" by the league : "It's like getting a ticket for going too fast on a road a week ago and they changed the speed limit today"

03-10-2007, 12:59 PM	#6
JankySpanky80 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 267	Re: ok im gonna say it, cause nobody else will.... Smoot brings depth to the CB situation. This was not a bad move. He knows the defense already. Why waste time even questioning this move? Its a great move probably the best besides Fletcher the skins have done in 2 years since the Moss trade. __________________ JANK-e SPANK-e

03-10-2007, 01:06 PM	#7
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Re: ok im gonna say it, cause nobody else will.... So you'd rather not have Chris Cooley on the team, I'm taking it from your post as well? Because he has a cool name. Furthermore, and I could be wrong, because I cant memorize plays much past 2004 at this point (leaving out 01-03), when did he get an unsportsmanlike call for his "loudmouth"? __________________ #21

03-10-2007, 01:08 PM	#8
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: ok im gonna say it, cause nobody else will.... Calm down, Smoot was a good pickup and didn't bust the bank. He's still a quality #2/#3 corner. He's certainly a huge improvement over the likes of Rumph/Wright. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-10-2007, 01:33 PM	#11
beatdallas Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 33	Re: ok im gonna say it, cause nobody else will.... For the money spent Smoot was a good aquisition for a team that was lacking in the secondary department. There's a saying that goes something like this "you dont miss something until it's gone" when you look at the performance of Wright and Rumph last season, the signing of Smoooot makes perfect sense. Of course we would have loved to have someone like Clements, but the fact of the matter is that the Skins simply did not have the kind of money that he was asking for. In addition you have to look at the history of the Skins signing free agents to big money and the they dont pan out. Oh by the way we have one of the highest paid SS in the league and he doesnt start. Hail to the Redskins!

03-10-2007, 12:14 PM	#1
chrisl4064 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lake Travis, Texas Age: 43 Posts: 786	ok im gonna say it, cause nobody else will.... i cant stand fred smoot. hes a fan lollypop, everyone loves to yell smoooooot when he makes a play. same with cooooooley, shit anyones name they can do that with people love. lets not forget this loud mouth penalty making machine. he loves washington, no shit, we welcome him with open arms. hes not that good people. the only quality about him i like is that hes physical. but does getting smoot really better our situation, NOOOOO!!!! we are still trying to aquire more corners, why! if smoot was that good we would be done shopping. can someone please explain to me why nobody other than myself has critisized this move bringing him here.....?

03-10-2007, 12:23 PM	#2
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: ok im gonna say it, cause nobody else will.... Well here's the deal in a nutshell. Many around here (DC), Joe Gibbs included, felt that Smoot shouldn't have gotten away to begin with. In fact, Gibbs prefaced his presser with the fact that it was mistake on both sides to let Smoot go to Minni. I think for the dollar amount he signed for, the fact he wanted to come back to the Redskins, he's 27 years old....I can go on and on really. No, it wasn't a splashy deal, but it was very solid, sensible signing for the Skins. If Smoot stays healthy, I think it could prove to be the best off season move this year.

03-10-2007, 12:25 PM	#3
RMSkins The Starter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 36 Posts: 1,066	Re: ok im gonna say it, cause nobody else will.... Uhh thank God you're not running this organization. First of all Smoot probably won't even start for us, and will come in on certain packages. The whole reason we signed Smoot is because we lack depth at CB, and he gives us great depth, I for one would much rather have Smoot back there than Kenny Wright, or Mike Rumph. So you better just get used to Smoot because he is going to be here for awhile.

03-10-2007, 02:52 PM	#12
Smurf85 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 123	Re: ok im gonna say it, cause nobody else will.... So please tell me who we can get thats better than Smoot.I mean for only a 21 million dollar contract?Smoot played good as a Skin,is he a #1 CB.Probably not thats why we drafted Rogers.This is Rogers 3rd year and he must prove that he is the #1 CB.If he's not going to be that guy.Well then i guess we will be looking for another CB next year.Point is Smoot is a good #2 and great for depth.Something we need bad and some of the people in here are right.ITs a good thing your not running our front office.

03-10-2007, 03:56 PM	#13
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: ok im gonna say it, cause nobody else will.... while im not one that thinks smoot is all world, he is a definite upgrade over whoever we had playing back there last seaon( other then springs) __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

03-10-2007, 03:58 PM	#14
Crat92 Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nashville,TN Age: 51 Posts: 474	Re: ok im gonna say it, cause nobody else will.... Why is everyone saying that Smoot will be a #2 corner? Are we really depending on Springs to 1. be the #1 and 2. stay healthy? Help me out on this one please. __________________ BEWARE THE MIDDLE............LaRON LANDRY IS LURKING!

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