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Old 04-19-2007, 11:27 PM   #1
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Well they may have found a diamond in the rough in Golston, but I don't think he's enough. If we could trade down and get a D-lineman and then someone like maybe Michael Griffin, that'd be cool

it would but i like landry too much i want him lsu fan go tigers man they might suck next year
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:38 PM   #2
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Unfortunately, from what I hear Landry is a very real possibility. Not unfortunately because I don't think he'll be good. I think he'll be great, just like Calvin Johnson. However, like CJ, I don't think Landry alone makes our team infinitely better. Not without getting help on the D-line.
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Old 04-19-2007, 08:54 PM   #3
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Unfortunately, from what I hear Landry is a very real possibility. Not unfortunately because I don't think he'll be good. I think he'll be great, just like Calvin Johnson. However, like CJ, I don't think Landry alone makes our team infinitely better. Not without getting help on the D-line.

unless we find a late round draft gem on d line and sign ian scott already god
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:15 PM   #4
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Re: My final argument for Drafting LaRon Landry

laron landry is a beast but i think dline is a much more glaring need for us
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:34 PM   #5
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Don't you people understand that Sean Taylor Landry, Ed Reed you could have all those guys, but they can't cover recievers for ever. There's something called spreading your talent on multiple levels in the nfl. On defense everything is connected. A lot of times cover safeties are only as good as the pass rush, other times you get coverage sacks from good safety play. But loading up at only one of the spots is just dumb.
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Don't you people understand that Sean Taylor Landry, Ed Reed you could have all those guys, but they can't cover recievers for ever. There's something called spreading your talent on multiple levels in the nfl. On defense everything is connected. A lot of times cover safeties are only as good as the pass rush, other times you get coverage sacks from good safety play. But loading up at only one of the spots is just dumb.
great point but we could find a late rd gem at d line or vis versa for that matter as long as i dont hear johnson, anderson, branch, or peterson and carriker on draft day i will be happy
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Re: My final argument for Drafting LaRon Landry

at this point i dont know what they are going to do with #6 pick. but the more i look at it if we cant trade the pick i think we should pick the best defense player available. if its a d-lineman or safety will either really be able to step in and make our defense that much better. did mario williams make the texans defense any better? in my opinion i think we need a DT over a DE. if we had big body that cpould clog the running lanes and force a double on him that would free up carter on the edge and help our linebackers. from what i have heard branch is falling and not worthy or the #6. so if we keep the pick i would be happy with either okoye or landry. we havent heard much on these guys visiting redskins park so maybe we are leaning to one of these two
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at this point i dont know what they are going to do with #6 pick. but the more i look at it if we cant trade the pick i think we should pick the best defense player available. if its a d-lineman or safety with either really be able to step in and make our defense that much better. did mario williams make the texans defense any better? in my opinion i think we need a DT over a DE. if we had big body that cpould clog the running lanes and force a double on him that would free up carter on the edge and help our linebackers. from what i have heard branch is falling and not worthy or the #6. so if we keep the pick i would be happy with either okoye or landry. we havent heard much on these guys visiting redskins park so maybe we are leaning to one of these two

hopefully landry
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:07 PM   #9
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i think the scouting report you copied was the same one from 2004 when Sean Taylor came out. someone is always the next Lott, Reed, etc. a great secondary looks rather ordinary with no defensive line
How well, minus one year, has our defense played with virtually no defensive line? Pretty well. Greg Williams depends on his corners to allow other players to attack the quarterback. While I'm not opposed to defensive linemen, I don't think we're handcuffed to any. I will have a huge grin on my face come draft day the second I hear Landry or Okoye called. I think, in my eyes, Landry has a slight edge.
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How well, minus one year, has our defense played with virtually no defensive line? Pretty well. Greg Williams depends on his corners to allow other players to attack the quarterback. While I'm not opposed to defensive linemen, I don't think we're handcuffed to any. I will have a huge grin on my face come draft day the second I hear Landry or Okoye called. I think, in my eyes, Landry has a slight edge.
Daseal, this isn't directed at you - so take no offense.

But I'm sick and tired of hearing how Greg Williams' defense depends so much on his corners or the defense can't do this or that. This guy is supposed to be one of the great defensive minds in the game today. To suggest that everything crumbles if the corners don't play within the scheme is beyond me. I don't buy it. It might be a misguided opinion, but I don't buy it.

I understand football, okay. But....what about making adjustments? If he needs every little component in place, and every player healthy, and every player on his 'A' game to be successful, then he's not the coach everyone pretends he is; That goes for any coach in any sport for that matter!

The great ones get it done consistently with all types of talent. I think Gregg Williams is perhaps a good defensive coach, but by no means great.

I remember back in the day Richie Pettibon won with a lot of different players. By many standards, he did it with average to good talent.
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:22 PM   #11
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Re: My final argument for Drafting LaRon Landry

From a cap perspective, I'm still not sold on investing that much money in two safeties. Seems like for all the elite safeties you mentioned - Polamalu, Reed, Dawkins - those teams have been able to get by complimenting them with lesser players. Even Taylor was at his most effective playing with Ryan Clark.

You need one athletic safety in the NFL today to cover tight ends and blitz while still being able to drop back in coverage, but do you really need two? Especially when your team has major needs up front? It'd be nice, but is it really a luxury we can afford at this point?

As for picking a Dlineman, yeah its no guarantee. Dline has the highest bust factor of any position. But does that mean we should never draft a dlineman in the first round again? At some point we are going to have to try and bring in someone who can make plays up there. Otherwise we are going to see a lot of the same problems next season.
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Old 04-20-2007, 12:22 AM   #12
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From a cap perspective, I'm still not sold on investing that much money in two safeties. Seems like for all the elite safeties you mentioned - Polamalu, Reed, Dawkins - those teams have been able to get by complimenting them with lesser players. Even Taylor was at his most effective playing with Ryan Clark.

You need one athletic safety in the NFL today to cover tight ends and blitz while still being able to drop back in coverage, but do you really need two? Especially when your team has major needs up front? It'd be nice, but is it really a luxury we can afford at this point?
Exactly. It's overkill.
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:24 PM   #13
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i have been saying landry all the way back since i saw his combine numbers. i put those together with what i saw on the field and this guy is a flat out stud! plus hes put on 15 pounds over his listed weight of 203 at the beginning of the college season....this guy played corner as a freshman in similar attacking scheme at lsu, he understands coverage as much as anyone that we have right now.....hes a sure thing folks.....ut oh here come all the guys with "nothing is a sure thing"
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:29 PM   #14
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Re: My final argument for Drafting LaRon Landry

And instead of a draft cap, we can give him this...

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Old 04-19-2007, 11:50 PM   #15
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How will another safety help stop the run? We were giving up ridiculous rushing yardage last year.
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