Who do you think had the best draft?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Dude, Kolb was the 2nd best QB in this draft. Who knows, he might prove to be the best. He could conceivably be better than Quinn. He certainly won't be rushed behing McNabb.

I hate the Eagles, but I love the way they do things. They always land a bunch of value picks.

who valued kolb as the 2nd best now u must be kidding he was 4th or 5th at best on my board
j russ was first
brady barbeque quinn was 2nd
drew why sit when u can be stanton was 3rd
and john beck was 4th then edwards and kolb

no offense but kolb sucked nuts and how was he valued to be better than mcnabb that was non-sense come on g tripp kolb no way man that was a dumb pick by them really stupid

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

who valued kolb as the 2nd best now u must be kidding he was 4th or 5th at best on my board
j russ was first
brady barbeque quinn was 2nd
drew why sit when u can be stanton was 3rd
and john beck was 4th then edwards and kolb

no offense but kolb sucked nuts and how was he valued to be better than mcnabb that was non-sense come on g tripp kolb no way man that was a dumb pick by them really stupid

How much Kolb film have you been studyin'?

[hooskins]

Well you could say Philly fucked up by giving Dallas, a division rival, a good trade. I dont think they did too great beside the QB.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Well you could say Philly fucked up by giving Dallas, a division rival, a good trade. I dont think they did too great beside the QB.

I though Philly was money with both 2nd round draft picks. Like I mentioned before, in 4 years, it wouldn't shock me if Kolb is better than McNabb (like...ever was).


Kolb could be ready to play as early as next year, but likely has a long sit ahead of him. Which is fine because it will only serve to eliminate some of the early career mistakes from his game.

[budw38]

Sf / Cleveland / Atlanta / Denver / Oakland . I do not like the Falcons , but I wouldn't be suprised if Anderson is a hell of a player . Denver may have a major improvement rushing the passer , Oakland may have two major steals in Moses and Bush . At this point , all of these drafts are ranked on paper ,,,,,, we shall see .

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by budw38

Sf / Cleveland / Atlanta / Denver / Oakland . I do not like the Falcons , but I wouldn't be suprised if Anderson is a hell of a player . Denver may have a major improvement rushing the passer , Oakland may have two major steals in Moses and Bush . At this point , all of these drafts are ranked on paper ,,,,,, we shall see .

Moses and Bush were pretty solid steals, but I would have ranked their draft a lot better if they had been the ones who traded up for Quinn at 22 and Russell had gone to Cleveland early. That's a crazy, crazy financial difference.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Moses and Bush were pretty solid steals, but I would have ranked their draft a lot better if they had been the ones who traded up for Quinn at 22 and Russell had gone to Cleveland early. That's a crazy, crazy financial difference.

I agree . Pitty those teams that passed on Quin if he is a franchise QB one day !

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by budw38

I agree . Pitty those teams that passed on Quin if he is a franchise QB one day !

Man, wouldn't that be a story -- I think more than anything else, what doomed Quinn was that more teams were actually solid with their quarterback situation than ever before.

There were questions about his accuracy, but you would think the fact that he was groomed by Charlie Weiss might have given him more of an edge than he actually got.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Man, wouldn't that be a story -- I think more than anything else, what doomed Quinn was that more teams were actually solid with their quarterback situation than ever before.

There were questions about his accuracy, but you would think the fact that he was groomed by Charlie Weiss might have given him more of an edge than he actually got.

The accuracy issues surrounding Quinn are legitmate, and would be there at the NFL level, but when Quinn misses, its always low or in front of a guy. The dangerous places to miss that lead to INTs are high, and/or behind a guy. So while it's a legitimate criticism, it should not have any effect on his value whatsoever. You'd figure he would make up the inconsistencies in his completion percentage from accuracy by making the right read more often than most other QBs.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Man, wouldn't that be a story -- I think more than anything else, what doomed Quinn was that more teams were actually solid with their quarterback situation than ever before.

There were questions about his accuracy, but you would think the fact that he was groomed by Charlie Weiss might have given him more of an edge than he actually got.

One more thought ,,,, Romo stinks , Spencer is average and Quinn is all pro ,,,,,,,, We can all pray for that . We need to adopt the Browns as our " other team " in 07 ,,, do not want want the cowpokes to have a top 10-15 pick !

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by budw38

I agree . Pitty those teams that passed on Quin if he is a franchise QB one day !

Poor Quinn got no lovin' from anyone on Saturday

YouTube - Brady Quinn, dump the girlfriend

[GMScud]

I've got four teams in mind- Denver, Buffalo, SF, and Cleveland.

I love Buffalo landing both Marshawn Lynch and Posluszny- both great players filling pressing needs. Plus they got Trent Edward to develop into a viable backup (maybe a starter soon) with Kelly Holcomb departing for Philly. And apparently that RB they got in the 4th round (Dwayne Wright?) was a steal.

Denver needed D-line help as badly as we did. They proceeded to get Jarvis Moss, Tim Crowder, and Marcus Thomas. WOW. Thomas was projected to be in the top half of the 1st rd if not for character issues. They are loaded at DL now, and man am I jealous.

San Fran- They got the best LB in the draft in Willis, the 3rd best tackle in Staley, two very solid D-lineman from Florida in McDonald and Cohen, and a good backup for Gore in Thomas Clayton. Not to mention a few good D-backs as well. They had a lot of picks and used them well.

Cleveland got Joe Thomas and Brady Quinn. That alone is awesome. Then they went out and a got Eric Wright who is probably better than Revis and Hall, but had the dreaded character issue. They picked up a few other names that slip my mind, but Quinn and Thomas are why they are on my list.

[Rexi]

Originally Posted by GMScud

San Fran- They got the best LB in the draft in Willis, the 3rd best tackle in Staley, two very solid D-lineman from Florida in McDonald and Cohen, and a good backup for Gore in Thomas Clayton. Not to mention a few good D-backs as well. They had a lot of picks and used them well.

Don't forget Jason Hill in the 3rd, I loved the pick and thought he was a steal. I really loved our draft-- I'm not saying it was the best-- I liked AZ's and Cleveland's a lot. Atlanta too.

But Patrick Willis was great to pick up, he was my #1 target at the spot. After that I wanted Landry if he were to fall there, then Branch.

Willis, the best ILB prospect in years (beats Ernie Simms by a mile in my book) will replace Derek Smith (half blind), the worst starting ILB in football. Paired with Brandon Moore inside the tandem will be LETHAL. Not to mention Lawson and Banta-Cain beside them.

The Staley trade up made me skeptical when we gave up our first. But then the Indy trade made this another great move. He's the most atheletic OT in the draft, and isn't even fully added to his frame yet after playing TE a couple of years ago. He's basically the antithesis of Kwame Harris (worst starting OT in football). Our two biggest needs were filled with elite prospects.

Our last gaping need was WR and adding Jason Hill, the second fastest player at the combine shored up the spot along with the genius trade for Darrell Jackson and the Lelie signing. Now our corps have gone from one of the worst to very respectable.

So, right now it's looking like our days of gaping holes are over and we can focus on depth now. Great, great draft.

[vaoutlaws2006]

its a toss up between sf and clev

[Monkeydad]

Buster's draft analysis

Good drafts:

*Cleveland. They made a genius move (helped by Miami's stupidity) by managing to get a top OL and Brady Quinn both in the first round. They got a lot of secondary depth too.

*The Raiders had a very good draft too, QB, RB, TE, WR...not enough OL though, so we'll have to see if all that firepower on offense can overcome a horrible line. My guess is no, but they did get a LOT of talent.

*The Cards did well with only a few picks. Levi Brown, Alan Branch and Buster Davis are all big picks.

*Titans with Griffin and RB Chris Henry have 2 solid starters with their first 2 picks.


Funny picks:

*The Lions chose Manny Ramirez in Round 4.
*The Bills have a guy who's jersey will say "Ah You" on the back. C.J. Ah You .



Dumb moves:

*Miami picking Ginn, Jr. He's NOT worth a #9 pick and although they need a new KR since losing Wes Welker...this was NOT the place to do it. They're also assuming Trent Green will be able to last a full season IF they can get him. I guess they're confident in Cleo Lemon.

*New Orleans picking Robert Meachem in Round 1. Meachem is good but NO is stacked with young talent at WR. They lost Horn, but he barely played last year anyways. I guess they have no other needs.

*Falcons passing on a good QB. They'll need a backup and MAYBE replacement for Vick if he gets in more legal trouble. They lost a capable backup/replacement and their only other QB on the roster is D.J. Shockley. They did get a good pick with Jamaal Anderson (ha, another Jamaal Anderson...).


AND, the Skins:

Landry is a GREAT pick and will make it pretty scary for WRs and TEs to play against us with him and Taylor back there ready to decapitate people. LB depth is no longer a problem. We have a great backup QB for the future since Brunell will retire soon and Todd Collins doesn't belong on an NFL roster. A backup TE was a nice bonus. We didn't address DL, but by the 4th Round, there weren't many good options left, so we filled other needs with some good valued-picks. I think we did very well with the picks we had for once.