Let's impeach the president.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by firstdown

The funny thing is everytime the dems. loose an election all we hear is about election fraud. Funny when they won all those seats back in the last election the word fraud was never mentioned.

Yeah. If they were a football team it would be hard to get a handshake after you beat them. They always have a ready excuse. Which is ultimately to their detriment because it prevents constructive change. They call it denial.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

The funny thing is everytime the dems. loose an election all we hear is about election fraud. Funny when they won all those seats back in the last election the word fraud was never mentioned.

I don't know about your neck of the woods, but here in the state of Washington there was a big hoopla about election fraud and how the election was stolen from Dino Rossi. Some have suggested U.S. attorney John McKay was fired because he didn't go after anyone. One thing is definitely clear though, he wasn't fired for performance reasons.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

I don't know about your neck of the woods, but here in the state of Washington there was a big hoopla about election fraud and how the election was stolen from Dino Rossi. Some have suggested U.S. attorney John McKay was fired because he didn't go after anyone. One thing is definitely clear though, he wasn't fired for performance reasons.

The reason we did not hear about this is because he is a republican! LOL

[SmootSmack]

Politics is a dirty game, been that way for decades. Fact remains though that Gore and his supporters rarely, if ever, look in the mirror when it comes to explaining why he lost. It's always someone else's fault.

[Hog1]

Is it time to bring up the Illustrious proposed "Immigration bill" ?

[SmootSmack]

Of course, when talking in historical terms history has a way of coloring itself. If we were living during Lincoln's time we'd probably say "How dare our President suspend habeas corpus" Yet today he's one of the greatest president of all time, during FDR "How dare he put Japanese Americans in internment camps" Yet today, he's one of the greatest ever, "How dare Truman bomb millions of civilians" Yet today he's one of the greatest ever.

[FRPLG]

I do wonder if in 20 or 30 years our current approach to combating terrorism will be viewed as misguided, as it is widley viewed now, or prophetic. Smott mentioned that a lot of things we look at historically were very unpopular in their day.

[Hog1]

I heard an interesting survey today. To paraphrase:
About 30% of Americans support GW's current war effort in Iraq.
About 65% of Americans support GW's current effort to combat terrorism against the US.

No connection between the two? Interesting...........

[FRPLG]

mee two

[dmek25]

i am a big Bill Clinton supporter. with that out of the way, NAFTA is the worst piece of... well, i don't know what to call it. other then trash. thats one place to start. get rid of it. the playing field is too uneven. they can pay people $4.00 an hour, or whatever, with no over head( emissions, workers regulations, etc.) there is practically NO safety regulations anywhere, except for the good old U.S.A. until the trade deficit starts to balance out, something must be done. or this country will be back to square one, with unions making a big comeback

[dmek25]

and its not that i make bad money. its the way inflation is growing. take a trip to the grocery store. or fill up your gas tank. or take your son or daughter to the doctors. at an average of 3% pay raise, i basically cant afford the luxuries that I'm used to. and inflation is one issue the government can do something about
ps- i love your sig

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by dmek25

and its not that i make bad money.

That's good.

its the way inflation is growing.

Actually it's going down. Look at the housing markets for instance, they are all dieing. My brother's house, outside of Boston, he bought for $610k, now he can't even get $550k for it. (serves him right, I think the house sucks)

take a trip to the grocery store.

If this is a major issue, blame the greedy people SELLING the product. Nothing the government can do here. Farmers can be very greedy...we have MILLIONAIRE farmers here...seriously.

or fill up your gas tank.

I'll give you that one cause I am firm believer that we need to use alternative fuels, and reduce our dependancy on foriegn oil. However, think this wouldn't have happened on someone else's watch, you're mistaken. It sucks that it costs me $80 to fill up, and it doesn't look like it's going to get better. But we as consumers have JUST AS MUCH IF NOT MORE TO DO WITH THIS! We still buy gas at wasteful rates, and the gas companies are making record profits 300% higher than last year. Is this Bush? HELL NO. It's we as citizens. Put the blame where it belongs.

or take your son or daughter to the doctors.

It only costs me $20. That doesn't break anyone's bank. So why is this an issue for you?

at an average of 3% pay raise, i basically cant afford the luxuries that I'm used to. and inflation is one issue the government can do something about

What luxuries are you referring to? Eating caviar on your yacht? The majority of the country is living well. I know this doesn't make anyone feel better, but it's true.

[dmek25]

i can tell by this post that you and i have a totally different outlook on life.i worry about the single mother of 3, doing every thing she can to keep it all going.i look back on my life, and realize how lucky i have been. at what might have happened if i wasn't so lucky. i always look at the big picture. i don't think any American can look in the mirror, and say this country is better off now, then opposed to 8 or 10 tears ago. this idiotic thing that we are involved in is keeping our country separated. it is not a war. in a real war, you always know who the enemy is. the president refuses to listen to those who have put him in office. we ARE one divided mess of a country

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i can tell by this post that you and i have a totally different outlook on life.i worry about the single mother of 3, doing every thing she can to keep it all going.i look back on my life, and realize how lucky i have been. at what might have happened if i wasn't so lucky. i always look at the big picture. i don't think any American can look in the mirror, and say this country is better off now, then opposed to 8 or 10 tears ago. this idiotic thing that we are involved in is keeping our country separated. it is not a war. in a real war, you always know who the enemy is. the president refuses to listen to those who have put him in office. we ARE one divided mess of a country

Yes, we are a divided mess. But we were all agreed to go to this war, some just decided to quit early. The ones that are quitting are dividing the country. Why start something you don't intend to finish?

You are also right that we have a different outlook on life. I firmly beleive in self responsibility and everything in your life, you have attracted to yourself, good or bad.
Do I feel bad for the single mother with 3 kids... well maybe. Are they from the same father? Did the HUSBAND die? Cause if she is just sleeping around and not taking resposibility for her actions, why does that responsibility fall on me and my tax dollars? I have no problem helping a woman that started a family and had a wonderful loving relationship in marriage, then the husband dies and she can't take care of that family. I feel for that. I have NO SYMPATHY what-so-ever for the single mother with 3 kids from different fathers that has never been married. NONE. Does that sound cold? Maybe...but again...I work and bust ass so that my family is taking care of, I shouldn't have to worry about what people with no morals or cares, or the people that have no responsibility are doing. My money should stay with me. I EARNED it, they did not earn my money.

[dblanch66]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Yes, we are a divided mess. But we were all agreed to go to this war, some just decided to quit early. The ones that are quitting are dividing the country. Why start something you don't intend to finish?

You are also right that we have a different outlook on life. I firmly beleive in self responsibility and everything in your life, you have attracted to yourself, good or bad.
Do I feel bad for the single mother with 3 kids... well maybe. Are they from the same father? Did the HUSBAND die? Cause if she is just sleeping around and not taking resposibility for her actions, why does that responsibility fall on me and my tax dollars? I have no problem helping a woman that started a family and had a wonderful loving relationship in marriage, then the husband dies and she can't take care of that family. I feel for that. I have NO SYMPATHY what-so-ever for the single mother with 3 kids from different fathers that has never been married. NONE. Does that sound cold? Maybe...but again...I work and bust ass so that my family is taking care of, I shouldn't have to worry about what people with no morals or cares, or the people that have no responsibility are doing. My money should stay with me. I EARNED it, they did not earn my money.

Are you sure you're not a Cowboy fan?