Let's impeach the president.

[dblanch66]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

who in the hell is ron paul?

Republican candidate for president. The other Republican "candidates" like Guliani and McCain are trying to get him banned from future debates and have been rebuffed. Watch the next Republican debates and you'll see who Ron Paul is.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by dblanch66

Republican candidate for president. The other Republican "candidates" like Guliani and McCain are trying to get him banned from future debates and have been rebuffed. Watch the next Republican debates and you'll see who Ron Paul is.

Thanks. I actually went to his web site. Doesn't look like a serious contender, but you never know.

[Crazyhorse1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

So I guess your saying that the people we are holding that were fighting for the taliban are innocent people? I have not heard about what your posting about so maybe you should have added a link.

Bush denounced Iran on national television and it played repeatedly on all major channels and on virtually every news program.

The people being held are not being held as Taliban or prisoners of war. They are being held without charges as suspected terrorists. We don't whether they're guilty or not. Not only are there no charges, there are almost no trials.

Most of the people seized in Afghanistan and Irag were picked up in blind sweeps (they were picked up at random and no evidence was collected). The idea was to extract information from the torture of people at random.

If people are innocent until proven guilty. Yes. Bush is detaining hundreds, maybe thousands of innocent people, including Canadians and Americans.
After 911, Ashcroft conducted blind sweeps of American Muslims and imprisoned them without charges in New York.

Bush and his people are a disgrace to our country. No doubt about it.

[MTK]

Clinton was impeached by the House but was acquitted by the Senate.

[Crazyhorse1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Clinton was impeached by the House but was acquitted by the Senate.

An impreachment is a trial, not a conviction.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by Crazyhorse1

An impreachment is a trial, not a conviction.

Actually it's more like an indictment. I think I explained it pretty well on pg 1. When I read through the following posts the next day I felt like Mr. Hand from Fast Times.

[Crazyhorse1]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Actually it's more like an indictment. I think I explained it pretty well on pg 1. When I read through the following posts the next day I felt like Mr. Hand from Fast Times.

Granted. You are correct.

[12thMan]

What's interesting is, depending on what slant you hear or read, people will lead you to believe that he was actually impeached.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

What's interesting is, depending on what slant you hear or read, people will lead you to believe that he was actually impeached.

Yes he was impeached.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Yes he was impeached.

But is it technically considered impeachment if Congress passed the vote but not the Senate?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

But is it technically considered impeachment if Congress passed the vote but not the Senate?

Impeachment History
Yes, and it was the same thing in Andrew's case. Nixon just left before anything started.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Impeachment History
Yes, and it was the same thing in Andrew's case. Nixon just left before anything started.

I was actually looking at that same link myself.

I guess what I'm really asking is, since the "impeachment" process didn't get approved in both chambers, is it historically correct to say Clinton was impeached?

Furthermore will historians consider Bill Clinton an impeached President or is it a matter of interpreting the Constitution?

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Impeachment in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Actual impeachments of only the following seventeen federal officers have taken place:

Two presidents: Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton, both acquitted.
...
In addition, Richard Nixon decided to resign in the face of the near certainty of both his impeachment, which had already been approved by the House Judiciary Committee, and the apparent likelihood of his conviction by the Senate.

Just remember, Wikipedia isn't always the most accurate.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Impeachment in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Just remember, Wikipedia isn't always the most accurate.

But in this case, that is an accurate statement.

[hesscl34]

Oh boy... I'm outta here!