Week 3: Giants at Redskins Game Thread

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

McNabb will light up the Giants secondary next Sunday night. It all might not matter if the damned Cowboys keep on winning.

He might and he might not I don't know but one thing I do know.....you don't know either.

[Monkeydad]

Although, I was calling for a Sellers run on the last play.

[jsarno]

Oh and BTW, when we did open up the offense, we marched down the field.

[firstdown]

I'm not going to read this whole thread but has it been brought up that JC is starring down WR's and he missed about 6 to 7 plays where he had guys wide open. He does not starr them down on every play but he does do it very often and is missing allot of plays. I'm not bashing JC as he is young and these type of things happen as he is learning but I saw a bunch of our WR's in the 2nd half that were wide open.

[SmootSmack]

New England Patriots at 07:43
1-10-BUF 47 (7:43) 34-S.Morris right tackle to BUF 35 for 12 yards (55-A.Crowell, 20-D.Whitner).
1-10-BUF 35 (7:17) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short left to 10-J.Gaffney pushed ob at BUF 24 for 11 yards (26-A.Youboty).
1-10-BUF 24 (6:55) 34-S.Morris up the middle to BUF 19 for 5 yards (98-L.Tripplett, 52-J.DiGiorgio).
2-5-BUF 19 (6:22) (Shotgun) 34-S.Morris left tackle to BUF 11 for 8 yards (20-D.Whitner, 25-K.Thomas).
1-10-BUF 11 (5:49) 34-S.Morris right guard to BUF 8 for 3 yards (77-T.Anderson, 25-K.Thomas).
2-7-BUF 8 (5:12) 12-T.Brady pass short right to 84-B.Watson for 8 yards, TOUCHDOWN. NE 84-Watson 3rd straight game with a TD reception.
3-S.Gostkowski extra point is GOOD, Center-66-L.Paxton, Holder-6-C.Hanson.
BUF 7 NE 10 Plays: 6 Possession: 2:35
Six straight conservative plays—Touchdown

New England Patriots at 04:01
1-10-BUF 48 (4:01) 39-L.Maroney left guard to BUF 29 for 19 yards (26-A.Youboty). PENALTY on NE-39-L.Maroney, Delay of Game, 5 yards, enforced at BUF 29.
1-10-BUF 34 (3:28) 39-L.Maroney left tackle to BUF 27 for 7 yards (55-A.Crowell, 90-C.Kelsay).
2-3-BUF 27 (2:51) 39-L.Maroney left guard to BUF 22 for 5 yards (97-J.McCargo, 52-J.DiGiorgio).
1-10-BUF 22 (2:10) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass deep left to 88-K.Brady to BUF 2 for 20 yards (99-J.Jefferson, 42-J.Leonhard).
Two-Minute Warning
1-2-BUF 2 (2:00) NE 50-Vrabel & 55-Seau eligible. 44-H.Evans right guard to BUF 3 for -1 yards (52-J.DiGiorgio, 57-J.Stamer).
2-3-BUF 3 (1:20) 12-T.Brady pass short right to 81-R.Moss for 3 yards, TOUCHDOWN. NE 81-Moss 4th career game vs. Buffalo, TD in all 4.
3-S.Gostkowski extra point is GOOD, Center-66-L.Paxton, Holder-6-C.Hanson.
BUF 7 NE 17 Plays: 6 Possession: 2:44
Five conservative plays, one deep pass-Touchdown

New England Patriots at 11:30
1-10-NE 11 (11:30) 39-L.Maroney up the middle to NE 5 for -6 yards (95-K.Williams, 25-K.Thomas).
2-16-NE 5 (10:55) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short right to 83-W.Welker to NE 15 for 10 yards (25-K.Thomas).
3-6-NE 15 (10:13) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short right to 83-W.Welker to NE 26 for 11 yards (33-J.Greer) [90-C.Kelsay].
1-10-NE 26 (9:39) (Shotgun) 39-L.Maroney right guard to NE 32 for 6 yards (99-J.Jefferson).
2-4-NE 32 (9:03) 12-T.Brady pass deep left to 81-R.Moss to BUF 23 for 45 yards (20-D.Whitner). NE 81-Moss now has 11,040 career rec yards. 19th player in NFL history with 11,000+ rec yards.
1-10-BUF 23 (8:17) 39-L.Maroney right end to BUF 8 for 15 yards (42-J.Leonhard, 20-D.Whitner).
1-8-BUF 8 (7:39) (Shotgun) 39-L.Maroney right guard to BUF 1 for 7 yards (20-D.Whitner, 25-K.Thomas).
2-1-BUF 1 (7:00) NE 50-Vrabel & 55-Seau eligible. 12-T.Brady sacked at BUF 4 for -3 yards (sack split by 94-A.Schobel and 52-J.DiGiorgio). BUF 94-Schobel now has 61.5 career sacks, tied for 2nd in Bills history.
3-4-BUF 4 (6:26) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short left to 10-J.Gaffney for 4 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
3-S.Gostkowski extra point is GOOD, Center-66-L.Paxton, Holder-6-C.Hanson.
BUF 7 NE 24 Plays: 9 Possession: 5:08
Eight conservative plays, one deep pass-Touchdown

New England Patriots at 05:03
1-10-NE 42 (5:03) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short left to 81-R.Moss to NE 49 for 7 yards (20-D.Whitner, 26-A.Youboty).
2-3-NE 49 (4:32) (Shotgun) 34-S.Morris left guard to BUF 41 for 10 yards (52-J.DiGiorgio).
1-10-BUF 41 (3:59) 12-T.Brady pass deep middle to 83-W.Welker to BUF 15 for 26 yards. Lateral to 81-R.Moss pushed ob at BUF 4 for 11 yards (25-K.Thomas).
1-4-BUF 4 (3:29) 34-S.Morris up the middle for 4 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
3-S.Gostkowski extra point is GOOD, Center-66-L.Paxton, Holder-6-C.Hanson.
BUF 7 NE 31 Plays: 4 Possession: 1:37
Four conservative plays, one deep pass-Touchdown

New England Patriots at 00:28
1-10-NE 2 (:28) 44-H.Evans right guard to NE 11 for 9 yards (33-J.Greer).
2-1-NE 11 (15:00) (Shotgun) 39-L.Maroney left tackle to NE 13 for 2 yards (53-M.Haggan).
1-10-NE 13 (14:20) PENALTY on BUF-90-C.Kelsay, Encroachment, 5 yards, enforced at NE 13 - No Play.
1-5-NE 18 (14:00) NE 68-O'Callaghan eligible. 12-T.Brady pass incomplete short middle to 88-K.Brady.
2-5-NE 18 (13:55) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass incomplete short left to 81-R.Moss.
3-5-NE 18 (13:51) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short right to 83-W.Welker to NE 28 for 10 yards (90-C.Kelsay).
1-10-NE 28 (13:16) 39-L.Maroney left end to NE 37 for 9 yards (52-J.DiGiorgio, 97-J.McCargo).
2-1-NE 37 (12:36) 12-T.Brady pass short right to 83-W.Welker to NE 36 for -1 yards (25-K.Thomas, 20-D.Whitner).
3-2-NE 36 (11:53) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short middle to 33-K.Faulk to NE 46 for 10 yards (43-B.Scott).
1-10-NE 46 (11:13) (Shotgun) 12-T.Brady pass short left to 33-K.Faulk to BUF 45 for 9 yards (55-A.Crowell, 20-D.Whitner) [72-R.Neill].
2-1-BUF 45 (10:28) 12-T.Brady pass deep right to 81-R.Moss for 45 yards, TOUCHDOWN. NE 81-Moss 1st receiver in NFL history to have 100+ rec yards in each of his 1st 3 games with a new team. NE 81-Moss 49th career 100-yard receiving game NE 12-Brady 16th career 300-yard game.
0-0-BUF 2 3-S.Gostkowski extra point is GOOD, Center-66-L.Paxton, Holder-6-C.Hanson.
Nine conservative plays, one deep pass-Touchdown

And every drive started with “conservative” plays. So the strategy can and does work

[jsarno]

Well, I guess since the Pats did it with their team it will work for us?
That is worst argument I have ever heard you make. We are two different teams SS. The Pats have their entire O line in tact, we do not. They score in bunches, we do not. Their passing game is respected (which makes their running game work better), ours is not. They get 12, 19, 7 and 9 yards on first down (using your examples) in 4 out of the 5 drives, we do not, and did not.
When you're effective on first down it opens a lot of things. I don't consider what they did conservative cause it works. It works for several reasons, many of which I already said.
Worst comparison ever SS. You don't stick with what DOESN'T work!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Well, I guess since the Pats did it with their team it will work for us?
That is worst argument I have ever heard you make. We are two different teams SS. The Pats have their entire O line in tact, we do not. They score in bunches, we do not. Their passing game is respected (which makes their running game work better), ours is not. They get 12, 19, 7 and 9 yards on first down (using your examples) in 4 out of the 5 drives, we do not, and did not.
When you're effective on first down it opens a lot of things. I don't consider what they did conservative cause it works. It works for several reasons, many of which I already said.
Worst comparison ever SS. You don't stick with what DOESN'T work!

So it's only conseravative when it doesn't work?

Anyway, you completely missed the point. Maybe if I drew a picture on the back of a Chili's menu you'd get it.

But forget it, I don't care to discuss this with you any further. I might as well discuss it with a paper plate.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So it's only conseravative when it doesn't work?

Anyway, you completely missed the point. Maybe if I drew a picture on the back of a Chili's menu you'd get it.

But forget it, I don't care to discuss this with you any further. I might as well discuss it with a paper plate.

My sentiments exactly. You obviously weren't watching the game if you think they didn't play conservative. I spelled it out for you with our entire 3rd and 4th quarter drives...how you missed it is beyond me.
ps- you're not discussing, you're pushing your warped opinion and you are wrong. Also, when you get on average 8 or 9 yards on first down, I could care less if you do it every down, cause it works. What we did, didn't work. Plain and simple. Have a great day SS.

[scowan]

Someone......anyone...... can we get some first half highlights of this game? I know we lost, but I want to see those throwbacks again.

Where are you BJ. Are we only getting wins?

[SmootSmack]

I still don't think you get what I'm saying jsarno so I've PMed you