Gibbs called the final 4 plays...(No he didn't)

steveo395 · 09-24-2007, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Now this is interesting actually. That number is compelling. Why is it though that the entire second hald felt like we simply were not trying to do anything on offense? Anyone have an answer for that. Anyone here in the second half actually feel like we were still running a balanced offense? I felt the entire second half like all we wanted to do was run the ball and take no chances. But it is hard to argue with 21 of 29

They didn't start passing it a lot until they were losing, and then they totally abondoned the run. The Redskins had a big lead at half time and they just totally came out flat in the second half.

firstdown · 09-26-2007, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Now this is interesting actually. That number is compelling. Why is it though that the entire second hald felt like we simply were not trying to do anything on offense? Anyone have an answer for that. Anyone here in the second half actually feel like we were still running a balanced offense? I felt the entire second half like all we wanted to do was run the ball and take no chances. But it is hard to argue with 21 of 29

I was at the game and we had 7 to 8 pass plays were JC just did not see a wide open WR. My wife even asked why JC did not throw the ball to the open WR. Then when I get home my budy made the comment that JC was starring down WR's and this would make sense to why he missed the open WR.

BrunellMVP? · 09-26-2007, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

I was at the game and we had 7 to 8 pass plays were JC just did not see a wide open WR. My wife even asked why JC did not throw the ball to the open WR. Then when I get home my budy made the comment that JC was starring down WR's and this would make sense to why he missed the open WR.

that will come with time

Redskin · 09-23-2007, 11:30 PM

how about when the spiked the ball or the incomplete pass there was no time then to change out personell, Im not buying it

Darrell_Green_28 · 09-24-2007, 01:10 AM

ummm why did you leave the following part out or not mention it
why not quote the whole thing

"Gibbs said he told Campbell the plays to run, indicating that Gibbs apparently had taken over the play-calling duties usually held by assistant coach Al Saunders. Later, Gibbs clarified his remarks, saying he was just reinforcing the plays called by Saunders to the young quarterback."

FRPLG · 09-24-2007, 08:35 AM

100% right.

redsk1 · 09-24-2007, 08:40 AM

A pretty good assessment. Way to conservative.

SouperMeister · 09-24-2007, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

Sorry for the additional thread, merge if neccessary, but from the ESPN recap:
(ESPN - Giants rally as defense holds Skins to 83 yards in second half - NFL Football Recap)

Gibbs said he called the final plays, taking over the job that usually belongs to assistant coach Al Saunders.

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Gibbs needs to let Saunders do his job in crunch time. I'm convinced that the offense looks like a Chinese fire drill in the last two minutes because there is input from too many people.

FRPLG · 09-24-2007, 08:47 AM

No he simply reiterated the plays Saunders called. It says so in the article. But I agree about our two minute offense.

The Zimmermans · 09-24-2007, 10:17 AM

We called plenty of pass plays....if you watched campbell closely, he was checking down every time...even though moss is uncoverable deep when he is given time. Maybe Campbell himself needs to let loose and have more confidence in himself...and get that killer instinct..he definitley proved that he has the tools.

It's not panic time yet....but the play calling at the end of the game was high school level. Campbell shouldbe been ready to run a QB sneak right after the completion to randle El....instead we SPIKED the ball....gave time for the giants to set...and ran to where they knew we were running twice with our backup tailback.

hagams · 09-24-2007, 10:20 AM

Poor Execution, Poor Coaching. Plain and simple. Gibbs does need to let Al call the plays though. I'm really suprised we didn't see a QB sneak there, but we are just the guys/girls that pay thier salaries.....what do we matter?

Darrell_Green_28 · 09-24-2007, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hagams

Poor Execution, Poor Coaching. Plain and simple. Gibbs does need to let Al call the plays though. I'm really suprised we didn't see a QB sneak there, but we are just the guys/girls that pay thier salaries.....what do we matter?

AGAIN Gibbs DID let Al call the plays.

JWsleep · 09-24-2007, 10:12 PM

Saunders called the plays--this report is off.

And listen to Gibbs in his presser on this today. He said they got what they wanted, did what they wanted, but failed to execute. There was no confusion on the sideline, no panic. They got to the two with no TOs and had three plays to score. They tried a roll out pass to Sellers, and two runs over the left side where they liked the matchup (and where they scored in the first half). It's tough to sneak or to give the ball straight to Sellers without a lead block because the gints are in goal-line D stacking the line. And Sellers is a good lead blocker.

Maybe when Campbell is a bit farther along, he gets more control there and can audible to something or call his own number or whatnot. But right now those were good plays, IMO. They just didn't execute.

Could we have run other things there? Of course. And if those had not worked, we'd be bitching about that. I would have liked a rollout on 4th down, but I completely understand why they didn't. We were on the friggin TWO.

I do think they need to reevaluate the "Portis and Betts are interchangeable" thing, but that's the way they've practiced it and played it so far. From what Gibbs says, it's really Byner that has the big say there. Interesting. No doubt they'll be thinking about all this in the weeks to come. What they want is a Holmes/Johnson thing like Saunders had in KC, but I think CP is really better. Saunders has always loved Betts (and he did gain over 1000 last season), but CP is more clutch, IMO.

SmootSmack · 09-24-2007, 10:47 PM

I'm changing the thread title, but to what?

I'll let JWSleep decide

JWsleep · 09-25-2007, 01:08 AM

It should have something from Wedding Crashers in the title...

09-23-2007, 11:30 PM	#4
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09-24-2007, 01:10 AM	#5
Darrell_Green_28 The Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Robert, Louisiana Age: 58 Posts: 2,119	Re: Gibbs called the final 4 plays.. ummm why did you leave the following part out or not mention it why not quote the whole thing "Gibbs said he told Campbell the plays to run, indicating that Gibbs apparently had taken over the play-calling duties usually held by assistant coach Al Saunders. Later, Gibbs clarified his remarks, saying he was just reinforcing the plays called by Saunders to the young quarterback."

09-24-2007, 08:35 AM	#6
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 10,164	Re: Gibbs called the final 4 plays.. 100% right.

09-24-2007, 08:40 AM	#7
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Gibbs called the final 4 plays.. A pretty good assessment. Way to conservative.

09-24-2007, 08:47 AM	#9
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 10,164	Re: Gibbs called the final 4 plays.. No he simply reiterated the plays Saunders called. It says so in the article. But I agree about our two minute offense.

09-24-2007, 10:17 AM	#10
The Zimmermans Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Woodley Park, Washington DC Age: 42 Posts: 937	Re: Gibbs called the final 4 plays.. We called plenty of pass plays....if you watched campbell closely, he was checking down every time...even though moss is uncoverable deep when he is given time. Maybe Campbell himself needs to let loose and have more confidence in himself...and get that killer instinct..he definitley proved that he has the tools. It's not panic time yet....but the play calling at the end of the game was high school level. Campbell shouldbe been ready to run a QB sneak right after the completion to randle El....instead we SPIKED the ball....gave time for the giants to set...and ran to where they knew we were running twice with our backup tailback. __________________ Dan Snyder is a Cancer, Joe Gibbs is the Cure

09-24-2007, 10:20 AM	#11
hagams Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Beaufort SC Age: 46 Posts: 933	Re: Gibbs called the final 4 plays.. Poor Execution, Poor Coaching. Plain and simple. Gibbs does need to let Al call the plays though. I'm really suprised we didn't see a QB sneak there, but we are just the guys/girls that pay thier salaries.....what do we matter? __________________ We are always superbowl contenders in March!!! HTTR!!!!!!!!

09-24-2007, 10:12 PM	#13
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 57 Posts: 4,719	Re: Gibbs called the final 4 plays.. Saunders called the plays--this report is off. And listen to Gibbs in his presser on this today. He said they got what they wanted, did what they wanted, but failed to execute. There was no confusion on the sideline, no panic. They got to the two with no TOs and had three plays to score. They tried a roll out pass to Sellers, and two runs over the left side where they liked the matchup (and where they scored in the first half). It's tough to sneak or to give the ball straight to Sellers without a lead block because the gints are in goal-line D stacking the line. And Sellers is a good lead blocker. Maybe when Campbell is a bit farther along, he gets more control there and can audible to something or call his own number or whatnot. But right now those were good plays, IMO. They just didn't execute. Could we have run other things there? Of course. And if those had not worked, we'd be bitching about that. I would have liked a rollout on 4th down, but I completely understand why they didn't. We were on the friggin TWO. I do think they need to reevaluate the "Portis and Betts are interchangeable" thing, but that's the way they've practiced it and played it so far. From what Gibbs says, it's really Byner that has the big say there. Interesting. No doubt they'll be thinking about all this in the weeks to come. What they want is a Holmes/Johnson thing like Saunders had in KC, but I think CP is really better. Saunders has always loved Betts (and he did gain over 1000 last season), but CP is more clutch, IMO. __________________ Hail from Houston!

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