Early Line for Wash/NE Game

[dmek25]

i love it when the skins and coach play the poor , downtrodden thing. ill bet they will have some heted practices this week

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

Oct. 28 Washington       
1:15 p.m.  at New England       
Favorite        NE      NE   NE     
Point spread -16½ -16½ -16

I understand they are statistically the best team in memory, but 16½? Isn't that a little excessive?

For the record, I'd probably bet the Pats, but still...

Through the first 6 games the Patriots have outscored opponents 230-92.

No, that spread is NOT excessive.

[dmek25]

sandjack, what was the spread when dallas played the pats?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by dmek25

sandjack, what was the spread when dallas played the pats?

Pats were -7.

[Hog1]

What the hell? You'd think the Pat's were playing Army.
We are gonna rock their world!
Another round JJ

[irish]

If the Skins O continues to be inept the D will be gassed by the mid-third quarter. If the Skins D is gassed things could get ugly.

[BDBohnzie]

The Pats offense is averaging 40 points a game vs. the Skins 20. 16.5 is taking into account the Skins defense...considering the Pats have averaged 48 over the last 2 games. The oddsmakers want people to put the money on the Skins bringing the spread down, knowing damn well the odds are against it.

[12thMan]

I think the spread is up to 17 points now.

[BrunellMVP?]

line is about 16 i think...i'd expect it to widen, simply bc the pats hype machine coupled with our POOR offensive showing...we'll see...

i think anything under 20 is reasonable...

[GhettoDogAllStars]

I think anything over 14 is a little unreasonable. This is NFL after all. Yes the Pats beat every team they have played by 2 TDs or more, but could you predict that? Would anyone have bet money that the Pats would have done that at the beginning of the year? Only the most extreme homers would. Is anyone willing to predict that the Pats will continue this production for the entire year? It's simple: it is FAR more likely that the Pats will NOT do this for every remaining game in the season, than otherwise.

I'm sorry, but I'm in the "any given Sunday" camp. I truly believe that every team has a chance to beat any other team, any given week.

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

I think anything over 14 is a little unreasonable. This is NFL after all. Yes the Pats beat every team they have played by 2 TDs or more, but could you predict that? Would anyone have bet money that the Pats would have done that at the beginning of the year? Only the most extreme homers would. Is anyone willing to predict that the Pats will continue this production for the entire year? It's simple: it is FAR more likely that the Pats will NOT do this for every remaining game in the season, than otherwise.

I'm sorry, but I'm in the "any given Sunday" camp. I truly believe that every team has a chance to beat any other team, any given week.

And that's my point, really. Double-digit spread used to be rare, and anything more than two touchdowns usually involved an injury-depleted Cleveland team. No slight on the Pats at all, but we've got a winning record in a tough division, and the #5 defense in the league. I expect to be big underdogs. I don't expect Christians vs. Lions, and that's what 16½ is.

[GTripp0012]

Didn't Dallas come within 21?

I think it's a safe bet we will cover.

[Chief X_Phackter]

16 or 17 points is reasonable considering Vegas.

However,

The Pats have played against defenses currently ranked the following:

32nd (Cleveland)
31st (Buffalo)
29th (Cincinnati)
28th (NY Jets)
27th(Miami)
16th (Cincinnati)
and
7th (Dallas)

Washington would probably be 7-0 too.

IMO they will probably be looking past Washington to their matchup with Indy the following week...it happens, especially since Indy has beat them the past three meetings (by the way Indy is 11-0 going back to last year).

I think Washington will surprise and frustrate them in the first half and keep it close. The second half is anyone's guess. All I can say is they better do a better job of making adjustments (or sticking to what is working) in the second half of this game, or the Pats will run away with it in the end. I hope this is the week the offense begins to click. It has been proven twice (really three times) that our defense can't keep us in the game for four quarters.

[chris66]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

16 or 17 points is reasonable considering Vegas.

However,

The Pats have played against defenses currently ranked the following:

32nd (Cleveland)
31st (Buffalo)
29th (Cincinnati)
28th (NY Jets)
27th(Miami)
16th (Cincinnati)
and
7th (Dallas)

Washington would probably be 7-0 too.

IMO they will probably be looking past Washington to their matchup with Indy the following week...it happens, especially since Indy has beat them the past three meetings (by the way Indy is 11-0 going back to last year).

I think Washington will surprise and frustrate them in the first half and keep it close. The second half is anyone's guess. All I can say is they better do a better job of making adjustments (or sticking to what is working) in the second half of this game, or the Pats will run away with it in the end. I hope this is the week the offense begins to click. It has been proven twice (really three times) that our defense can't keep us in the game for four quarters.

what were the defenses ranked before they played the pats?

If the pats drop 380 yards on the skins where will they be ranked come monday

[hondakiller]

if no one else moves in the rankings and the pats do put up 380yds the skins would drop from 5th to 6th in total defense.