Why Tom Brady is a complete and utter d-bag and the Pats have no class

[scowan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think you get it at the 40 no matter where the ball goes out. That's why it's always such a disaster when it happens.

Matty, Check out this link... Rule number 5.
NFL Rules Digest: Kickoff

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by scowan

Matty, Check out this link... Rule number 5.
NFL Rules Digest: Kickoff

That's interesting. You'd think had they known that the patriots would've tried a directional kick out of bounds inside the 10...

[scowan]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

That's interesting. You'd think had they known that the patriots would've tried a directional kick out of bounds inside the 10...

I guess I am wondering if you kick it out of bounds from the opponent's 30, and 30 yards down the field is the endzone, therefore maybe it is a touchback? If so then you would definitely want to try an onside kick from your opponent's 30, and kick it to their 20, if you get the onside kick... game over , if not at the very least you have chewed more time off the clock and the Ravens have it at their own 20, which is the same as a touchback. Why do I sit around and ponder these things, but it seems like Special teams coaches and head coaches do not. Late game decisions can help you win a game and knowing the rules can help as well. Someone help me with this!

[#56fanatic]

I dont see the point. Not all NFL franchises live and breathe the unfortunate passing of a TRUE REDSKIN. Because Tom Brady gets on the refs doesn't diminish the fact he is the best QB in the NFL right now and will probably go down as one of the best if not the best. Michael Jordon would always complain to the refs, does that make him a complete and utter d-bag? I think not. The guy has the fire and desire to win that I wish some of our guys would show. You are hating on the Pats because they whipped our boys so bad, it looked like a NFL team vs MIT. Why should they have to say anything about Sean, especially if no one asks them? that is just thinking the NFL should sucome to the same grief we all have felt in the last week, it is not going to happen.

I can't stand the pats at all, dispise them, but they are the best team in the NFL, and maybe best ever. The refs had nothing to do with them winning that game, the Ravens players and coaches took care of that. You should read some articles in the Baltimore and DC papers, no one is blaming the refs. How about stepping up and making a play instead of penalties??

[MTK]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I dont see the point. Not all NFL franchises live and breathe the unfortunate passing of a TRUE REDSKIN. Because Tom Brady gets on the refs doesn't diminish the fact he is the best QB in the NFL right now and will probably go down as one of the best if not the best. Michael Jordon would always complain to the refs, does that make him a complete and utter d-bag? I think not. The guy has the fire and desire to win that I wish some of our guys would show. You are hating on the Pats because they whipped our boys so bad, it looked like a NFL team vs MIT. Why should they have to say anything about Sean, especially if no one asks them? that is just thinking the NFL should sucome to the same grief we all have felt in the last week, it is not going to happen.

I can't stand the pats at all, dispise them, but they are the best team in the NFL, and maybe best ever. The refs had nothing to do with them winning that game, the Ravens players and coaches took care of that. You should read some articles in the Baltimore and DC papers, no one is blaming the refs. How about stepping up and making a play instead of penalties??

I think at the very least, that's up for debate.

[Redskin]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I dont see the point. Not all NFL franchises live and breathe the unfortunate passing of a TRUE REDSKIN. Because Tom Brady gets on the refs doesn't diminish the fact he is the best QB in the NFL right now and will probably go down as one of the best if not the best. Michael Jordon would always complain to the refs, does that make him a complete and utter d-bag? I think not. The guy has the fire and desire to win that I wish some of our guys would show. You are hating on the Pats because they whipped our boys so bad, it looked like a NFL team vs MIT. Why should they have to say anything about Sean, especially if no one asks them? that is just thinking the NFL should sucome to the same grief we all have felt in the last week, it is not going to happen.

I can't stand the pats at all, dispise them, but they are the best team in the NFL, and maybe best ever. The refs had nothing to do with them winning that game, the Ravens players and coaches took care of that. You should read some articles in the Baltimore and DC papers, no one is blaming the refs. How about stepping up and making a play instead of penalties??

They are not even close to the best team ever.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Redskin

They are not even close to the best team ever.

Well they have the stats which say other wise and like them or not its just a fact that they very well could go down as one of the best. Just look at their stats and ours from 1992 Superbowl year when our O was putting up great numbers and they passed most of them a couple weeks ago.

[Cowell]

I was thinking last night while watching the game how stuck up the Patriots seem to be. There are many incidents and I could sit here for an hour at least telling you why they are all about a bunch of punks but I won't because we all know. I know I will continue to root against them the rest of the season and I would love to see pretty much anyone beat them.

[Rajmahal33]

A few years ago when the Colts were in pursuit of perfection and they started out 13-0 (eventually losing to the Steelers in the playoffs), I never got the feel that going undefeated was their ultimate goal. You could still tell that Peyton and the others wanted to win a Superbowl no matter what way they did it. If that meant resting players who were injured or not using all of their energy in a game that they are already winning by 28 points then so be it. Similarly, when Peyton was breaking Marino's record there were LOADS of times when he would get down on the goal line in the 4th and sometimes 3rd quarter of a blowout game, run 3 times, and kick a FG. I know this for a fact cuz he was my fantasy QB that year and i was praying many times that he would throw it in while watching the live gametracker. U never got the sense that he was trying to break the record. He was just trying to win the game (and ultimately win a championship).

With Brady and the Pats, you can CLEARLY see that they are doing it for the stats and glory. Brady throws it 50 times a game in a blowout. They leave their starters in way past the point when the game is in reach. That rubs ppl the wrong way. Whether it is the players, other coaches, or fans, people don't like it b/c it cheapens the game that we love PERIOD It is also classless. I think thats the best way to put it (about Belicheat, Brady, and the Pats)...cheap and classless. I also don't see how it can be a "perfect" season when you are caught videotaping and BLATANTLY violating the rules of the game.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Rajmahal33

A few years ago when the Colts were in pursuit of perfection and they started out 13-0 (eventually losing to the Steelers in the playoffs), I never got the feel that going undefeated was their ultimate goal. You could still tell that Peyton and the others wanted to win a Superbowl no matter what way they did it. If that meant resting players who were injured or not using all of their energy in a game that they are already winning by 28 points then so be it. Similarly, when Peyton was breaking Marino's record there were LOADS of times when he would get down on the goal line in the 4th and sometimes 3rd quarter of a blowout game, run 3 times, and kick a FG. I know this for a fact cuz he was my fantasy QB that year and i was praying many times that he would throw it in while watching the live gametracker. U never got the sense that he was trying to break the record. He was just trying to win the game (and ultimately win a championship).

With Brady and the Pats, you can CLEARLY see that they are doing it for the stats and glory. Brady throws it 50 times a game in a blowout. They leave their starters in way past the point when the game is in reach. That rubs ppl the wrong way. Whether it is the players, other coaches, or fans, people don't like it b/c it cheapens the game that we love PERIOD It is also classless. I think thats the best way to put it (about Belicheat, Brady, and the Pats)...cheap and classless. I also don't see how it can be a "perfect" season when you are caught videotaping and BLATANTLY violating the rules of the game.

So by your example if I'm a runner and I'm way out front on a record pace then I should slow down and conserve myself and not try to get the record? Your example of the Colts was great but they fell even though they did what is I guess was to save themself for the playoffs. Does it cheaping the game when a bunch of old guys get together and celebrate a team loosing so they can keep the record? What is wrong with wanting to set some records and maybe going down as one of the greatest teams to play the game. I don't think people here would have a problem if it was the skins.

[Skinner]

Originally Posted by Rajmahal33

A few years ago when the Colts were in pursuit of perfection and they started out 13-0 (eventually losing to the Steelers in the playoffs), I never got the feel that going undefeated was their ultimate goal. You could still tell that Peyton and the others wanted to win a Superbowl no matter what way they did it. If that meant resting players who were injured or not using all of their energy in a game that they are already winning by 28 points then so be it. Similarly, when Peyton was breaking Marino's record there were LOADS of times when he would get down on the goal line in the 4th and sometimes 3rd quarter of a blowout game, run 3 times, and kick a FG. I know this for a fact cuz he was my fantasy QB that year and i was praying many times that he would throw it in while watching the live gametracker. U never got the sense that he was trying to break the record. He was just trying to win the game (and ultimately win a championship).

With Brady and the Pats, you can CLEARLY see that they are doing it for the stats and glory. Brady throws it 50 times a game in a blowout. They leave their starters in way past the point when the game is in reach. That rubs ppl the wrong way. Whether it is the players, other coaches, or fans, people don't like it b/c it cheapens the game that we love PERIOD It is also classless. I think thats the best way to put it (about Belicheat, Brady, and the Pats)...cheap and classless. I also don't see how it can be a "perfect" season when you are caught videotaping and BLATANTLY violating the rules of the game.

EXACTLY!!

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Cowell

I was thinking last night while watching the game how stuck up the Patriots seem to be. There are many incidents and I could sit here for an hour at least telling you why they are all about a bunch of punks but I won't because we all know. I know I will continue to root against them the rest of the season and I would love to see pretty much anyone beat them.

Personally, I agree. Can't stand the Pats. Maybe that's just because they win, but I think it's because they are so flip and arrogant (taking the example of their coach obviously). I also don't really like the fact that Brady seems to whine so much to the officials, he looks like a World Cup footballer sometimes.

What really solidified my contempt for him was his answer to a question about getting stopped on that QB sneak on fourth and inches. He said that he heard the whistle and stopped, otherwise he would have picked up the first down. The reporters laughed as if he were joking, but he was totally serious. Just say you dodged a bullet douche.

Having said all that, the Ravens lost that game. The fix wasn't in. The holding call was legit, the Gaffney catch was close (I didn't think it was really a catch, but close and hard to overturn, the Pats might have scored on one of the next three plays anyway), they called the timeout when they could have won (contrary to Brady's BS), etc. Ravens outplayed the Pats and still managed to lose. Sound familiar?

If you are a Pats fan trolling the boards, please don't respond to me. I really don't care what you think. Go find your own board if you don't like it. I'm sure there are plenty of bandwagon riding folks out there who have started boards where you can fawn over Brady, go away. Being a Pats fan automatically discredits you and I cannot respect you until you prove otherwise. The fact that you probably live in New England doesn't help either (no offense SmootSmack, I guess it's ok to live in NE if you HAVE to ).

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Personally, I agree. Can't stand the Pats. Maybe that's just because they win, but I think it's because they are so flip and arrogant (taking the example of their coach obviously). I also don't really like the fact that Brady seems to whine so much to the officials, he looks like a World Cup footballer sometimes.

What really solidified my contempt for him was his answer to a question about getting stopped on that QB sneak on fourth and inches. He said that he heard the whistle and stopped, otherwise he would have picked up the first down. The reporters laughed as if he were joking, but he was totally serious. Just say you dodged a bullet douche.

Having said all that, the Ravens lost that game. The fix wasn't in. The holding call was legit, the Gaffney catch was close (I didn't think it was really a catch, but close and hard to overturn, the Pats might have scored on one of the next three plays anyway), they called the timeout when they could have won (contrary to Brady's BS), etc. Ravens outplayed the Pats and still managed to lose. Sound familiar?

If you are a Pats fan trolling the boards, please don't respond to me. I really don't care what you think. Go find your own board if you don't like it. I'm sure there are plenty of bandwagon riding folks out there who have started boards where you can fawn over Brady, go away. Being a Pats fan automatically discredits you and I cannot respect you until you prove otherwise. The fact that you probably live in New England doesn't help either (no offense SmootSmack, I guess it's ok to live in NE if you HAVE to ).

I heard Brady say how lucky they got for them calling the time out and thats how it goes sometime in the NFL. Not sure what your watching.

[Beat to a Pulp]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Personally, I agree. Can't stand the Pats. Maybe that's just because they win, but I think it's because they are so flip and arrogant (taking the example of their coach obviously).

Belichick isn't arrogant, he's just a cold hearted man of few words. Look up the meaning of arrogance in the dictionary.

I also don't really like the fact that Brady seems to whine so much to the officials, he looks like a World Cup footballer sometimes.

It's no crime to express your thoughts to the refs as long as you don't throw temper tantrums and toss penalty flags into the stands.

What really solidified my contempt for him was his answer to a question about getting stopped on that QB sneak on fourth and inches. He said that he heard the whistle and stopped, otherwise he would have picked up the first down. The reporters laughed as if he were joking, but he was totally serious. Just say you dodged a bullet douche.

OMG! you can't take a joke? He wasn't serious. He never smiles when he's serious. As to who's the douche... it wouldn't hurt to at least have a sense of humor.

Being a Pats fan automatically discredits you and I cannot respect you until you prove otherwise. The fact that you probably live in New England doesn't help either (no offense SmootSmack, I guess it's ok to live in NE if you HAVE to ).

Total racism here. What do Pats fans have to prove to you? explain. Just because you hate a sports team, you automatically dislike the good people of the New England area. Doesn't speak good of yourself.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Redskin

They are not even close to the best team ever.

I'm sick of people calling the Patriots, 89 niners, 85 Bears, etc. as the best teams ever. In my opinion the best team/teams ever where the Steelers of the 70's those teams kicked ass and pounded you to a pulp. Nothing compares to those teams and this is coming from one of the biggest Redskins fan!!