Do we have anyone we can off-load for Picks.

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

If we could just trade him to ourselves I bet we could get a 3rd ...

That is funny (because it's true).

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

lol - we'd be lucky to get an 8th round pick for Brunell.

thats not true,could it be possible that theres maybe another coach out there that sees in Brunell what Gibbs saw in him and will give up a number 1 pick for him?
:yeahright

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by hagams

I know that I"m not very strong with stats, and cap talk and all that, but do you think we have anyone we could trade off for draft picks? Since the FO seems to have backed off the "lets build a team through Free agency", would it be possible to make some trades for picks, instead of us giving ours away?

This isn't Madden. You can't get swing players around and get draft picks like you're in dynasty mode.

The stuff rarely happens unless its done on draft day.

[freddyg12]

There are a couple deals that could come up near or on draft day. Just like last year w/the briggs for Rocky & #6 pick that never happened. I could see the tuna offering the #1 for our #21 + a player (actually Rocky might draw some interest if he's healing well).

The problem is that we have a rep for trading up & not trading back to get more picks. With the draft chart points that the nfl has, most teams seem to value their picks more too. At least we are at a place in the draft at #21 where some teams will trade their 2nd round pick to move up if they like a player a lot. It would be sweet to see the Skins get an extra pick or two, even if it's for the following year.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

There are a couple deals that could come up near or on draft day. Just like last year w/the briggs for Rocky & #6 pick that never happened. I could see the tuna offering the #1 for our #21 + a player (actually Rocky might draw some interest if he's healing well).

The problem is that we have a rep for trading up & not trading back to get more picks. With the draft chart points that the nfl has, most teams seem to value their picks more too. At least we are at a place in the draft at #21 where some teams will trade their 2nd round pick to move up if they like a player a lot. It would be sweet to see the Skins get an extra pick or two, even if it's for the following year.

That would be awesome if they could trade down - but like you said most teams covet picks and don't like to trade up. Plus there are a lot of teams that have owners that don't like to fork out massive signing bonuses, so finding any takers to trade down with is all the more difficult - I think a lot of us forget that Dan Synder and Jerry Jones are the rare cases of an owner willing to spend anything to win - if you go to places like Minnesota and other small market cities you'll find owners that either can't or are unwilling to spend the cash to make deals work.

[Schneed10]

We could theoretically trade the following players, and at the same time get cap relief by offloading their contracts:

Shawn Springs
Cornelius Griffin
Marcus Washington
Casey Rabach
Phillip Daniels
Todd Wade
Pete Kendall
Ladell Betts
James Thrash
Mike Sellers
Demetric Evans
Rocky McIntosh
Todd Yoder
Khary Campbell

Every other player is either a free agent (you can't trade a guy not signed) or would cost us cap space to trade away.

As I look at the list above, most of those guys are direly needed on this team (Marcus Washington, Casey Rabach, Mike Sellers, Cornelius Griffin, Rocky McIntosh) or wouldn't yield jack squat in a trade (Khary Campbell, Todd Wade, James Thrash).

It's not likely we'll trade anybody away.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

We could theoretically trade the following players, and at the same time get cap relief by offloading their contracts:

Shawn Springs
Cornelius Griffin
Marcus Washington
Casey Rabach
Phillip Daniels
Todd Wade
Pete Kendall
Ladell Betts
James Thrash
Mike Sellers
Demetric Evans
Rocky McIntosh
Todd Yoder
Khary Campbell

Every other player is either a free agent (you can't trade a guy not signed) or would cost us cap space to trade away.

As I look at the list above, most of those guys are direly needed on this team (Marcus Washington, Casey Rabach, Mike Sellers, Cornelius Griffin, Rocky McIntosh) or wouldn't yield jack squat in a trade (Khary Campbell, Todd Wade, James Thrash).

It's not likely we'll trade anybody away.

Schneed I would add that most teams in the NFL that have good GM's would probably stay away from the Redskins I put in bold due to their contract size (unless the team acquiring the player was able to renegotiate the contract beforehand).

I think the only other name that could garner any compensation is Rocky and Sellers, but Rocky's injuries would limit what we could get for him right now and Sellers is too valuable to the Skins to consider trading.

My take is I don't see the Skins trading anyone unless some team out there can be duped into taking Brandon Llyod - if we could score a coup like we did in the Adam Archuleta deal that would be great, but I don't see any team out there gunning for Llyod like the Bears Lovie Smith wanting Adam.

[That Guy]

everyone's trade value is lower than their usefulness to us, so the answer is no, not really.

betts was worth a LOT more last offseason after that great second half, but now his value's back down again. The only real value we could get is for campbell, but that'd be pretty bloody stupid.

meanwhile:
patrick ramsey for A.O. (chi DE)... OOPS!
mcintosh for lance briggs (chi LB)... oops.

so, i'd say our ownership overvalues its unproven players a bit too much.

[sportscurmudgeon]

The simple answer is that the players who will bring you either high draft picks or multiple draft picks are exactly the ones you really don't want to trade.

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by That Guy

everyone's trade value is lower than their usefulness to us, so the answer is no, not really.

betts was worth a LOT more last offseason after that great second half, but now his value's back down again. The only real value we could get is for campbell, but that'd be pretty bloody stupid.

meanwhile:
patrick ramsey for A.O. (chi DE)... OOPS!
mcintosh for lance briggs (chi LB)... oops.

so, i'd say our ownership overvalues its unproven players a bit too much.

That is exactly why i was lobbying to trade Betts last season while his value was high. and before everyone found out that he can not be a full time back and he as fumble problems.

Now we cant trade for shizzy!

[Luxorreb]

I say trading Rogers would be a smart move and free up space to get another early round CB and/ or S or signing someone like FA Asanti Samuel. Rogers has played poor, has a serious injury and in my opinion isn't as physical as he needs to be to handle #1 or #2 NFL WR's. And well every receiver in the league burns him. Repeatedly. Noone gonna trade for Brunell or Lloyd or Wade. I just hope we can keep Sellers for atleast 1-2 more seasons. He compliments our running backs very well. I miss GIbbs already...

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Luxorreb

I say trading Rogers would be a smart move and free up space to get another early round CB and/ or S or signing someone like FA Asanti Samuel. Rogers has played poor, has a serious injury and in my opinion isn't as physical as he needs to be to handle #1 or #2 NFL WR's. And well every receiver in the league burns him. Repeatedly.

Then why would anyone want him?

[That Guy]

give us your best players for the garbage we're going to cut anyways.

roger's is good enough to be a #2 or #3, and he knows the system and the players, so we might as well keep him until we're sure we've got something better in house.

[MTRedskinsFan]

Like the rest of ya I don't see much trade value on our roster to acquire a nice draft pick. The possibility (outside of trading JC which would be dumb as hell) of a trade for Portis and an o-lineman (I would prefer trading JJ) could garner some value in certain scenarios. CP is an awesome back for any young qb in the league because he protects so damn well and does all kinds of things to help his qb out. And JJ is a vet lineman. I don't know how I would feel about losing Portis. I like Betts more and more so if we started to hear good things about Mason then I suppose a trade for a nice pick would be ok (no lower than 2nd round).

But... does anyone else wonder if the events of last season somehow lower the value of the guys on our roster? I'm thinking about how other organizations might be unsure of a guy who was real close to Sean but no longer wears the burgandy and gold. I sort feel like our guys are real Redskins (except for B. Lloyd) and I hope we just acquire the talent we need through the draft.

[Master4Caster]

You mean besides CAmpbell, Cooley, Portis, Moss, Samuels, Washington and Landry?

I don't think we would get a high draft pick for any of our other players. Besides, real GMs know that you can get solid role players with low draft picks and undrafted free agents, along with a few well selected veteran free agents. They don't have to trade.

There's always the option of trading down the first round pick for a second and third round pick. That was a big topic last year. I think the front office made some calls last year and found no takers. But, may as well start up the talk now!