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[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I will NEVER jump off the Redskins bandwagon, but, if true, I don't like the move. So pretty much the entire coaching staff wants GW, the players wants GW, the owner preaches about the importance of continuity, and yet we hire a new guy who will likely fire many of the coaches and want to make significant changes to the roster? I can't quite follow that logic.

The only way this move will make sense is if Williams and Saunders remain on the staff as the defensive and offensive coordinators, respectively.

I feel almost exactly the same way.
My only difference is that while I'd like to keep Saunders, if he does leave and we bring in a new OC who has a better system for Campbell I'd be happy too.

I want what seems best for this team and Fassel, who could be a decent coach again, does not seem like the best coach out there.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I will NEVER jump off the Redskins bandwagon, but, if true, I don't like the move. So pretty much the entire coaching staff wants GW, the players wants GW, the owner preaches about the importance of continuity, and yet we hire a new guy who will likely fire many of the coaches and want to make significant changes to the roster? I can't quite follow that logic.

The only way this move will make sense is if Williams and Saunders remain on the staff as the defensive and offensive coordinators, respectively.

According to JLC it looks like Saunders is "in hot water" as well. Seattle's QB coach is interviewing for the OC job.

[SmootSmack]

What I don't understand is what do people have the bigger gripe about? That it's not Williams, or that it's Fassel?

Because you hear people preach "continuity" but then say well it's ok if we hire McDaniels, or Cowher, or Coach Lubbock

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What I don't understand is what do people have the bigger gripe about? That it's not Williams, or that it's Fassel?

Because you hear people preach "continuity" but then say well it's ok if we hire McDaniels, or Cowher, or Coach Lubbock

It's both. The whole thing is just rubbing folks the wrong way. Fassel is perceived to be an outsider. And there's something about what the Skins endured this season that transcends business.

I don't care how many stats people post about Fassel's career, there's nothing...nothing...that blows me away about this guy. It's almost like Snyder..and I'm not a Snyder basher, by the way....is leaving Williams high and dry.

[QBall]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

It's both. The whole thing is just rubbing folks the wrong way. Fassel is perceived to be an outsider. And there's something about what the Skins endured this season that transcends business.

I don't care how many stats people post about Fassel's career, there's nothing...nothing...that blows me away about this guy. It's almost like Snyder..and I'm not a Snyder basher, by the way....is leaving Williams high and dry.

Great points!!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

It's both. The whole thing is just rubbing folks the wrong way. Fassel is perceived to be an outsider. And there's something about what the Skins endured this season that transcends business.

I don't care how many stats people post about Fassel's career, there's nothing...nothing...that blows me away about this guy. It's almost like Snyder..and I'm not a Snyder basher, by the way....is leaving Williams high and dry.

What do you mean by this?

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What do you mean by this?

This team came together as close as one team possibly could to becoming "family". I think that should factor into the equation some. Now, I'm not laying all of this soley at Snyder's feet, but...

I mean, how Gregg Williams handled things on defense after Rogers went down, after Sean Taylor was slain, how the defense regained it's swagger should count for something. That's what I meant by how much of this has influenced Snyder's decision.

Should Gregg Williams be strongly considered for the job for sentimental reasons? You're damn skippy he should! That's exactly what I'm saying. Does he deserve it, you're damn skippy! Hey, if Joe Gibbs was allowed to buy some time during his second stint, I think Gregg Williams should get somewhat similiar treatment. Not to the same extent as Gibbs maybe, but yeah, Snyder should make a heart decision here.

Oh, the whole continuity thing? Yeah, I would start there too...but why do you need five good reasons to hire someone new, when the guys who will suit up on Sundays prefer the one who's already in the house?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

This team came together as close as one team possibly could to becoming "family". I think that should factor into the equation some. Now, I'm not laying all of this soley at Snyder's feet, but...

I mean, how Gregg Williams handled things on defense after Rogers went down, after Sean Taylor was slain, how the defense regained it's swagger should count for something. That's what I meant by how much of this has influenced Snyder's decision.

Should Gregg Williams be strongly considered for the job for sentimental reasons? You're damn, skippy he should! That's exactly what I'm saying. Does he deserve it, you're damn skippy! Hey, if Joe Gibbs was allowed to buy some time during his second stint, I think Gregg Williams should get somewhat similiar treatment. Not the to the same extent as Gibbs, but yeah, Snyder should make a heart decision here.

Oh, the whole continuity thing? Yeah, I would start there too...but why do you need five good reasons to hire someone new, when the guys who will suit up on Sundays prefer the one who's already in the house?

Agreed. After the loss of ST, Gregg felt the pain more than anyone else. He and the team went through that together. They're in the process of building something that they can dedicate to ST's memory.

This is not an entirely cerebral decision, because football is not an entirely cerebral game. It's a passionate game.

Though I'd note from a cerebral standpoint it makes no sense either.

[Lady Brave]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

It's both. The whole thing is just rubbing folks the wrong way. Fassel is perceived to be an outsider. And there's something about what the Skins endured this season that transcends business.

I don't care how many stats people post about Fassel's career, there's nothing...nothing...that blows me away about this guy. It's almost like Snyder..and I'm not a Snyder basher, by the way....is leaving Williams high and dry.

That's how I feel about the whole situation too. I'm trying to reserve judgment until I hear the official announcement. I'm also trying very hard to give Snyder the benefit of the doubt, but the whole thing just doesn't feel right for some reason.

Given the kind of season we had, I just think GW is in a better position to take over the leadership of this team right now. I think the cohesiveness of the staff and players is better than it has been in years. Why change that now and bring in a whole new dynamic with a new staff?

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Lady Brave

That's how I feel about the whole situation too. I'm trying to reserve judgment until I hear the official announcement. I'm also trying very hard to give Snyder the benefit of the doubt, but the whole thing just doesn't feel right for some reason.

Given the kind of season we had, I just think GW is in a better position to take over the leadership of this team right now. I think the cohesiveness of the staff and players is better than it has been in years. Why change that now and bring in a whole new dynamic with a new staff?

There are so many of us here who share in your belief. I'm also of the opinion that despite both Williams, and Fassel being considered rejects, or recycles, Williams is the more appropiate choice for this particular team at this particular time. Maybe Fassel could/would be a good hire, but not at this time. This team is too close to being able to acomplish something significant to have to undergo a makeover. Joe Gibbs leaving this team unexpectedly as he did leaves the team with more unsettled problems than just hiring a new coach. With a new coach comes all types of changes, changes no one in the orginization was/is prepared for.

[killromo]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

It's both. The whole thing is just rubbing folks the wrong way. Fassel is perceived to be an outsider. And there's something about what the Skins endured this season that transcends business.

I don't care how many stats people post about Fassel's career, there's nothing...nothing...that blows me away about this guy. It's almost like Snyder..and I'm not a Snyder basher, by the way....is leaving Williams high and dry.

Well put, i felt like we had achieved something special during this crazy season. To hire Fassel is a slap in the face to the entire organization! Fans, players, and coordinators alike. I just gained a lot of respect for Snyder for the way he handled the ST tragedy. I may have given my respect out too easily, if this comes to be true I feel betrayed in the worst way.

[killromo]

Ii fassel gets hired i hope he does this thing right. There will be a lot of haters including myself if he doesn't do well. Of course if we make playoffs I will say gregg who? and whats up with two G's anyway gregg?

[irish]

This would be another stupid move by a broken/disfunctional franchise. For some reason the Skins feel the need to use evryone else's cast off and reject coaches insteading of bringing in a new coach and letting him prove himself. I cant imagine the results would be any worse than they have been.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by irish

This would be another stupid move by a broken/disfunctional franchise. For some reason the Skins feel the need to use evryone else's cast off and reject coaches insteading of bringing in a new coach and letting him prove himself. I cant imagine the results would be any worse than they have been.

So you think the choice should be neither Williams nor Fassel, but rather someone like say...Jim Zorn

[irish]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So you think the choice should be neither Williams nor Fassel, but rather someone like say...Jim Zorn

Correct. Not Zorn, I would prefer Schwartz.