Ocho Cinco In B&G

[talk show host]

No way we get CJ without giving up our 1st round pic and possible a lower round pick as well. He is talented, but he will demand a large contract. He's 6'1, but we could really use someone a bit taller. He's a Diva and we have no reason to beleive he wouldn't make problems here. He's also 30 years old and may be in his prime now, but he probably only has 3-4 "good" years left in him.

why not keep our draft picks and just use those picks on a good, young, tall, cheap receiver?

for salary cap reasons, every chad johnson-type player we hire means we WON"T have talent at 3-4 other positions. i'd rather pay for 3-4 good players than one "star." and so would 31 other teams in the NFL. I guess snyder hasnt learned anything.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by talk show host

No way we get CJ without giving up our 1st round pic and possible a lower round pick as well. He is talented, but he will demand a large contract. He's 6'1, but we could really use someone a bit taller. He's a Diva and we have no reason to beleive he wouldn't make problems here. He's also 30 years old and may be in his prime now, but he probably only has 3-4 "good" years left in him.

why not keep our draft picks and just use those picks on a good, young, tall, cheap receiver?

for salary cap reasons, every chad johnson-type player we hire means we WON"T have talent at 3-4 other positions. i'd rather pay for 3-4 good players than one "star." and so would 31 other teams in the NFL. I guess snyder hasnt learned anything.

Stop it talk show host - you are making too much sense!

[Monkeydad]

From CJ's Rotoworld page (usually VERY reliable)
Chad Johnson

"Numerous league sources" tell the Washington Post that the Redskins are interested in trading for Chad Johnson.

Here we go. Two sources say Johnson is "eager" to get a new contract from the Redskins, confirming that Chad's main beef with the Bengals is about money. With a coaching staff almost fully in place, owner Dan Snyder's top priority is known to be acquiring a No. 1 receiver. While the Bengals aren't interested in moving Johnson currently, sources tell the Post that agent Drew Rosenhaus is actively working to broker a deal. It would probably take a pair of early first day draft picks to get Johnson. Feb. 11 - 11:28 pm et

Source: washingtonpost.com

[Monkeydad]

^Next paragraph in that Post article:

The Redskins also are expected to again pursue Chicago linebacker Lance Briggs, another Rosenhaus client they attempted to trade for last offseason.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by Buster

^Next paragraph in that Post article:

I know this is a CJ thread but please let's not get into the Briggs mess again. We have some pretty solid LBs last time i checked...fletcher, washington, mcintosh (who's supposed to be ready), blades.

[Coff]

A guy like Chad Johnson is happy when he's winning, unhappy when he's losing. And when a guy like Chad Johnson is unhappy, everyone is unhappy. Those who support CJ coming to the Skins need to be prepared for the ramifications of such a decision if and when things do not go well. One losing season and CJ will wreak havoc, and what reason do we have to believe that with CJ we will suddenly become contenders? It hasn't worked in the past with our huge acquisitions, and we're currently a team in flux, what with a new coaching staff and all. Maybe things will work out, maybe the depth we have been accumulating will pay off, and signing a guy like CJ will be what finally takes us to that next level. But are you prepared for all the garbage that CJ will heap upon this team in the event that we do not become contenders? That is the question you have to ask.

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by Coff

A guy like Chad Johnson is happy when he's winning, unhappy when he's losing. And when a guy like Chad Johnson is unhappy, everyone is unhappy. Those who support CJ coming to the Skins need to be prepared for the ramifications of such a decision if and when things do not go well. One losing season and CJ will wreak havoc, and what reason do we have to believe that with CJ we will suddenly become contenders? It hasn't worked in the past with our huge acquisitions, and we're currently a team in flux, what with a new coaching staff and all. Maybe things will work out, maybe the depth we have been accumulating will pay off, and signing a guy like CJ will be what finally takes us to that next level. But are you prepared for all the garbage that CJ will heap upon this team in the event that we do not become contenders? That is the question you have to ask.

I disagree if you look at our last ten year history based on that lonely we aren't a winning franchise & CJ knows that. He likes our potential as a team plus it was mentioned he was interested in us & Miami trust me he wants to win but he wouldn't pitch that big of a fit if we lost games.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

I disagree if you look at our last ten year history based on that lonely we aren't a winning franchise & CJ knows that. He likes our potential as a team plus it was mentioned he was interested in us & Miami trust me he wants to win but he wouldn't pitch that big of a fit if we lost games.

It will be a different story once the signing bonus Rosenhaus negotiates with Snyder is cashed. I would take anything that comes out of CJ's mouth at this point with a "shaker" of salt. Anything he says about "interest in a certain team" is coming from Rosenhaus and is designed to get him out of Cincy.

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

It will be a different story once the signing bonus Rosenhaus negotiates with Snyder is cashed. I would take anything that comes out of CJ's mouth at this point with a "shaker" of salt. Anything he says about "interest in a certain team" is coming from Rosenhaus and is designed to get him out of Cincy.

True I agree about Rosenhaus, but we are not the Colts, Pats, Eagles, Seahawks teams that pretty much make the playoffs every year we want to but we aren't a winning team like that and he knows that.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

I disagree if you look at our last ten year history based on that lonely we aren't a winning franchise & CJ knows that. He likes our potential as a team plus it was mentioned he was interested in us & Miami trust me he wants to win but he wouldn't pitch that big of a fit if we lost games.

Ocho Cinco is interested in one thing........and that is the monster contracts that Dan Snyder historically pays out.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Ocho Cinco is interested in one thing........and that is the monster contracts that Dan Snyder historically pays out.

I agree. I'm really, REALLY tired of his antics. I used to think his shenanigans were cheeky and fun. It's become clear that when someone catches more TDs than he does (Housh), and the team struggles, the real number 85 emerges. Evil shenanigans. Crybaby bullshit. I definitely want to add a big WR, but if we piss away our draft for a 30 year old me first attention hog... I'll put my head through a wall to say the least. Just say no to ocho stinko.

[Coff]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

I disagree if you look at our last ten year history based on that lonely we aren't a winning franchise & CJ knows that. He likes our potential as a team plus it was mentioned he was interested in us & Miami trust me he wants to win but he wouldn't pitch that big of a fit if we lost games.

Of course he likes our potential as a team (if he is actually considering coming here) but that's just my point. If the team's potential does not live up to his expectations, he will be dissapointed, and pitch a fit; he'll do the same thing he's doing in Cincy, cry like a baby until he gets his way and we trade him or release him. Again, we can avoid that mess simply by winning, but why take that chance? Based on his behavior, there is no reason to believe he wouldn't resort to acting like a prima donna cry baby if we start to lose.

[WillH]

This is absurd. If what the WP is reporting is true, that we'd have to give up a 1st and 3rd, or two 2nd rounders to get him it is absolutely not worth it. Dan Snyder, if you make this move you truely have learned NOTHING from your past mistakes.

[bigm29]

you guys realize the bengals want either 1st and 3rd or 2 2nds. no way im willing to give that up for the new TO

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by bigm29

you guys realize the bengals want either 1st and 3rd or 2 2nds. no way im willing to give that up for the new TO

I believe that players would be involved in this b/c it is too steep of a deal Snyder has not denied it so I think something will happen with this.