Ocho Cinco In B&G

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

WR is a tough position to prognosticate, when it comes to rookie success. CJ is a proven receiver and after seeing him in the skills challenge a few years ago, I think he's the best receiver in the league (even though the numbers may not show that). Any help for Campbell is welcome.

CJ, Moss and ARE in the slot? Man that sounds like a secondary's worse nightmare.

[schndr_tdd]

He is a cancer.Go after Roy Williams,or D.J. Hackett,or select through the draft.Wide reciever is not a priority.Moss and Randle El wil explode in the WCO.Kick returners have all the elusiveness when they get the ball in space.I would be concerned about our age at the line of scrimmage on both sides.

[rstone1979]

Originally Posted by schndr_tdd

He is a cancer.Go after Roy Williams,or D.J. Hackett,or select through the draft.Wide reciever is not a priority.Moss and Randle El wil explode in the WCO.Kick returners have all the elusiveness when they get the ball in space.I would be concerned about our age at the line of scrimmage on both sides.

85 will work for me

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by rstone1979

Are you kidding Roy Williams he couldn't even cover a toddler

I think he is referring to Roy Williams of the Detroit Lions, not Roy Williams of the Dallas Cowboys.

If we are determined to acquire a #1 WR via trade, I'd much rather see us pursue Roy Williams. I'd be fine with trading our 1st for him.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by schndr_tdd

He is a cancer.Go after Roy Williams,or D.J. Hackett,or select through the draft.Wide reciever is not a priority.Moss and Randle El wil explode in the WCO.Kick returners have all the elusiveness when they get the ball in space.I would be concerned about our age at the line of scrimmage on both sides.

I don't believe CJ is a cancer. I believe he lacks structure and discipline in Cincinnati. Nevermind Roy Williams the WR....

Feb 10 Tom Kowalski, of MLive.com, reports the Detroit Lions will likely not trade WR Roy Williams unless they are overwhelmed by an offer, according to a source.

There's your answer to that.

And Who the hell knows DJ Hackett?....................

Exactly. Nobody. Except people in Seattle.

The guy only played 6 games this season and his past 2 seasons stats are pretty damn disappointing.

Yeah that's exactly what we need. Another lackluster WR. I thought we had already have enough of that in Lloyd?

[rstone1979]

when can i but my 85 jersey?

[redskins5044]

here we go again. we dont need to trade for CJ and give up our high round draft picks. this has been our problem in the past. and on top of that he is going to want a big new contract. lets build this team through the draft. sign a lesser named FA big target WR. we need a young DE's OL's. i would care if we spent on 2nd round pick drafting a WR. but please dont make the tradeand give up all our draft picks

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by redskins5044

here we go again. we dont need to trade for CJ and give up our high round draft picks. this has been our problem in the past. and on top of that he is going to want a big new contract. lets build this team through the draft. sign a lesser named FA big target WR. we need a young DE's OL's. i would care if we spent on 2nd round pick drafting a WR. but please dont make the tradeand give up all our draft picks

Honestly the Laverneus Coles first round pick exchange worked. So I have no problem trading a first round pick for an elite player. The way I look at it is weather or not you could draft a player at the spot your in and then then trade for the same player for an elite guy like Chad Johnson (Would anyone trade Limas Sweed for Chad Johnson?). In most cases (as it relates to the 21st pick) probably not, unless a Brady Quinn type fell to you at that spot.

Also a lot of you are fogetting that the best DE's and OL are found either at the top of the first round or in the second and third round. Guys like Strahan, Elvis, Jared Allen, Osi, Aaron Kampman, Jason Taylor, Justin Tuck,Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, Adewale Ogunleye, Derrick Burgess were all
picked after the first round.

With the OL the general feeling is get an elite LT at the top of the first round and the rest of the OL in the second, third and fourth rounds. Thats why guys who might be one of the top 10 players in the draft like Ryan Kalil end up in the bottom of the second round.

The question here is do we get away giving up just a first round pick or a first and third? However CJ will be a Redskin, at this point its only a matter of time.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Honestly the Laverneus Coles first round pick exchange worked. So I have no problem trading a first round pick for an elite player. The way I look at it is weather or not you could draft a player at the spot your in and then then trade for the same player for an elite guy like Chad Johnson (Would anyone trade Limas Sweed for Chad Johnson?). In most cases (as it relates to the 21st pick) probably not, unless a Brady Quinn type fell to you at that spot.

Also a lot of you are fogetting that the best DE's and OL are found either at the top of the first round or in the second and third round. Guys like Strahan, Elvis, Jared Allen, Osi, Aaron Kampman, Jason Taylor, Justin Tuck,Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, Adewale Ogunleye, Derrick Burgess were all
picked after the first round.

With the OL the general feeling is get an elite LT at the top of the first round and the rest of the OL in the second, third and fourth rounds. Thats why guys who might be one of the top 10 players in the draft like Ryan Kalil end up in the bottom of the second round.

The question here is do we get away giving up just a first round pick or a first and third? However CJ will be a Redskin, at this point its only a matter of time.

You are forgetting that history has shown our current front office can not find DL like Osi and Strahan in the second round or any round. Nobody outside of Redskins fans know who Anthony Montgomery and Kedrik Golsten are. We have not drafted a good DL since 1997 Kenard Lang. That is a long time. It took Gibbs coming back for us to start drafting defensive players again. In the entire 2002 and 2003 drafts we took all offensive players except a 7th round DE. Snyderatto does not understand that defense wins championships.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

You are forgetting that history has shown our current front office can not find DL like Osi and Strahan in the second round or any round. Nobody outside of Redskins fans know who Anthony Montgomery and Kedrik Golsten are. We have not drafted a good DL since 1997 Kenard Lang. That is a long time. It took Gibbs coming back for us to start drafting defensive players again. In the entire 2002 and 2003 drafts we took all offensive players except a 7th round DE. Snyderatto does not understand that defense wins championships.

Lol, I can't believe that I'm hearing Defense wins championship from a guy whos SN is DefenseWins. I agree that defense wins championships but offense is important too and I think that Randy Moss and Wes Welker helped prove that (If they have a running game then theres no way the Giants win that game, but they don't so in the end we got to see the greatest upset in NFL history). Hopefully Snyderatto will draft a DL in the second and an OL the third. Either way I have a feeling that we can say goodbye to our first round pick. The only thing I'm hoping for is that we don't throw in the kitchen sink and give the Bengals a second or third. Of course this comment from a Bengals message board always gives me a good laugh

Originally Posted by GatorClaws

give me a 2nd plus Cooley and it's a done deal

[XXVI]

Yeah, how stupid. Cooley doesn't make it rain, he makes it friggin' hail! Plus, we need two Cooley caliber tight ends to run the WCO effectively. No way in hell Cooley EVER leaves Washington. Mark my words. Now... since that is out of the way... I changed my mind. Trade Moss and the third round pick for CJ. Draft a DE in the first, and go after something else in the second. Boom... elite reciver for a gimpy punt returner, and a third rounder that we wont need as much. Hopefully Carlos will come back, and learn how to cover, it's sad cause he's so athletic... but I'd say Jansen and Samuels are aging... depth for them would be nice. I don't ever wanna see Pucillo line up again. We need OL, and a good DE. Thats all I think. Maybe even a stud LB... cause we wont be seeing Rocky this year and Marcus isn't producing like he should.

[Longtimefan]

I'd love to have CJ, I just don't like what we'd have to give up to get him. Without a doubt he would enhance our offense, but those DP's are gold and I don't like the idea of giving them up when we have more pressing needs in other areas.

CJ has a rather strange character make-up but I'd take him if he came at a resonable price.........I just love having those DP's

[DynamiteRave]

Maybe we can trade Six Flags for CJ?

[KLHJ2]

I have an answer to CJ's question. "How do you stop 85?" Answer: You send him to Washington. DAMN!

[TheSmurfs22]

I would not mind seeing CJ here but it not worth a first round pick IMHO. It is time we use the draft to build our club through the draft and not players like CJ who want to come to Washington for the money.