Ocho Cinco In B&G

BrunellMVP? · 02-12-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSmurfs22

I would not mind seeing CJ here but it not worth a first round pick IMHO. It is time we use the draft to build our club through the draft and not players like CJ who want to come to Washington for the money.

agreed, keep the picks

squrrelco3 · 02-12-2008, 09:37 PM

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He's no doubt got a big mouth...but for the most part he's fun loving...he doesn't get into too much trouble and I don't see him as all that much of a cancer. The situation in Cincy seems to be more about him wanting to be on a winning team. If we can get him without overpaying I say go for it. He certainly can't do any worse than the other overpaid receiver we got wearing #85 right now...

nosebleed · 02-12-2008, 09:47 PM

If this happens, Snyder has not learned at thing!
The washington post reported that it would take a 1st and 3rd or two second round picks for Johnson. If feel that it would be better to draft two receivers than pay big money to a receiver over the age of thirty. I understand that he puts up great numbers, but that is with Palmer and the Bengals offense and how much longer can he keep it up. Let's build for the future and not just next season

Campbell17 · 02-12-2008, 10:45 PM

he is so good that i will risk the personality for the production

Oakland Red · 02-12-2008, 10:48 PM

It's not just about Chad Johnson being a top flight receiver. It's about managing our team salary cap. Do we want to trade our draft picks for Chad Johnson? I don't want to do that - I would rather us develop our own players. Should we break the bank to sign him, forcing us to keep converting other players' salaries to signing bonuses, and lving a debt laden,"credit card" based way of living outside our means? I don't think so. Would we be kind of giving up on Santana Moss? How many free agents can we sign for one position (wide receiver)? Is our problem really lack of talent at the wide receiver position? I will buy that we need a taller receiver somewhere on our roster, but not that we have to go out and mortgage our future on one player now.

Dirtbag59 · 02-12-2008, 10:59 PM

Guys check this out, I found this at a Bengals Message Board

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Originally Posted by GatorClaws

give me a 2nd plus Cooley and it's a done deal

LOL, are you ****ing kidding me!?! There are a few players that are untouchable on this team as it relates to trades, that is short of offering a guy like Peyton Manning. They are

- Chris Cooley
- Chris Samuals
- Laron Landry

Those are the three players that would be the hardest to trade for IMO

WaldSkins · 02-12-2008, 11:09 PM

Roy Williams from Detroit is available for cheaper and so is Fitzgerald. Whats wrong with RW he can put up the numbers johnson can for alot cheaper.

SmootSmack · 02-12-2008, 11:11 PM

I don't know that Fitz will be cheaper

WaldSkins · 02-12-2008, 11:19 PM

fitz just plays ball, after a td he just gives the ball to a ref and runs to the sideline. classy player

SmootSmack · 02-12-2008, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

fitz just plays ball, after a td he just gives the ball to a ref and runs to the sideline. classy player

He's great but I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be cheap

WaldSkins · 02-12-2008, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

He's great but I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be cheap

Compared to CJ i would think he would be. And if Cincy want a first for CJ, I think id rather take Roy Williams which is available for a 2nd. He is more of a TO type reciever. Can play on the outside or in the slot. Breaks tackles and is a huge target.

SmootSmack · 02-13-2008, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

Compared to CJ i would think he would be. And if Cincy want a first for CJ, I think id rather take Roy Williams which is available for a 2nd. He is more of a TO type reciever. Can play on the outside or in the slot. Breaks tackles and is a huge target.

Possibly, but isn't Fitz's base contract something like $16 million for 2008? Granted, CJ would be looking for a new deal but probably wouldn't get that much considering his age and current salary

Money aside, you really can't go wrong with any of them. I'd rather trade for one of them, even if it meant giving up our first, rather than drafting a WR in the first round. I'm just not sold on selecting WRs in the first round.

But let's say you sent the 1st and a player (Rocky?) to Cincy for CJ and a 4th (trust me, it could happen). Then you get CJ, you hope Lawrence Jackson falls to you in the 2nd round so you get your DE there (the biggest obstacle for Jackson could be the Bengals, but if they get our first round pick then they can get their DE there and Jackson can fall to us), 3rd and 4th rounds you go filling your CB and OL needs

Of course in a more ideal, yet unlikely world you ship a 3rd rounder to Detroit for Roy Williams so 1st round-Talib or Cason, 2nd-Jackson, 3rd-trade for Williams, use the back end of the draft for line help

BleedBurgundy · 02-13-2008, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Possibly, but isn't Fitz's base contract something like $16 million for 2008? Granted, CJ would be looking for a new deal but probably wouldn't get that much considering his age and current salary

Money aside, you really can't go wrong with any of them. I'd rather trade for one of them, even if it meant giving up our first, rather than drafting a WR in the first round. I'm just not sold on selecting WRs in the first round.

But let's say you sent the 1st and a player (Rocky?) to Cincy for CJ and a 4th (trust me, it could happen). Then you get CJ, you hope Lawrence Jackson falls to you in the 2nd round so you get your DE there (the biggest obstacle for Jackson could be the Bengals, but if they get our first round pick then they can get their DE there and Jackson can fall to us), 3rd and 4th rounds you go filling your CB and OL needs

Of course in a more ideal, yet unlikely world you ship a 3rd rounder to Detroit for Roy Williams so 1st round-Talib or Cason, 2nd-Jackson, 3rd-trade for Williams, use the back end of the draft for line help

Have you heard anything of the reports that Rocky has a degenerative knee condition? I had heard this on Sirius the other day.

skinsfanzg18 · 02-12-2008, 11:59 PM

does anyone know when santana's contract expires???

i think him and chad would make a SICK combo.

Skinny Tee · 02-13-2008, 03:52 AM

Why the hell do we always try to initiate trades when CJ is working hard to get out of Cinnci? Openly coveting their another teams player only increases the asking price for that player.

It's simple supply and demand and I pray that all this hype about CJ is Rosenhaus's way of getting attention for his client.

Trading for CJ is a dumb move that would only propagate the same mistakes we've already made in the past.

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02-12-2008, 09:37 PM	#2
squrrelco3 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Norfolk Age: 50 Posts: 429	Re: Ocho Cinco In B&G my ... He's no doubt got a big mouth...but for the most part he's fun loving...he doesn't get into too much trouble and I don't see him as all that much of a cancer. The situation in Cincy seems to be more about him wanting to be on a winning team. If we can get him without overpaying I say go for it. He certainly can't do any worse than the other overpaid receiver we got wearing #85 right now... __________________ I got nothin'

02-12-2008, 09:47 PM	#3
nosebleed Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Woodbridge Age: 52 Posts: 13	Re: Ocho Cinco In B&G If this happens, Snyder has not learned at thing! The washington post reported that it would take a 1st and 3rd or two second round picks for Johnson. If feel that it would be better to draft two receivers than pay big money to a receiver over the age of thirty. I understand that he puts up great numbers, but that is with Palmer and the Bengals offense and how much longer can he keep it up. Let's build for the future and not just next season __________________ Not a Sermon, Just a thought

02-12-2008, 10:45 PM	#4
Campbell17 Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Haddonfield, NJ Age: 32 Posts: 642	Re: Ocho Cinco In B&G he is so good that i will risk the personality for the production __________________ This time instead of some lousy joke, humerous comment, racial slur, or a famous quote, I will write small, and be the bigger person.

02-12-2008, 10:48 PM	#5
Oakland Red Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oakland, Calif. Posts: 268	Re: Ocho Cinco In B&G It's not just about Chad Johnson being a top flight receiver. It's about managing our team salary cap. Do we want to trade our draft picks for Chad Johnson? I don't want to do that - I would rather us develop our own players. Should we break the bank to sign him, forcing us to keep converting other players' salaries to signing bonuses, and lving a debt laden,"credit card" based way of living outside our means? I don't think so. Would we be kind of giving up on Santana Moss? How many free agents can we sign for one position (wide receiver)? Is our problem really lack of talent at the wide receiver position? I will buy that we need a taller receiver somewhere on our roster, but not that we have to go out and mortgage our future on one player now.

02-12-2008, 11:09 PM	#7
WaldSkins Playmaker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 42 Posts: 2,726	Re: Ocho Cinco In B&G Roy Williams from Detroit is available for cheaper and so is Fitzgerald. Whats wrong with RW he can put up the numbers johnson can for alot cheaper.

02-12-2008, 11:11 PM	#8
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Ocho Cinco In B&G I don't know that Fitz will be cheaper __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-12-2008, 11:19 PM	#9
WaldSkins Playmaker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 42 Posts: 2,726	Re: Ocho Cinco In B&G fitz just plays ball, after a td he just gives the ball to a ref and runs to the sideline. classy player

02-12-2008, 11:59 PM	#14
skinsfanzg18 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Washington DC Posts: 31	Re: Ocho Cinco In B&G does anyone know when santana's contract expires??? i think him and chad would make a SICK combo. __________________ "I just kind of wished and dreamed, and hoped, and you know, fourtunatley--god willingly, I got that chance with the Redskins." -Sean Taylor #21 Hail.

02-13-2008, 03:52 AM	#15
Skinny Tee The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Redskins Nation Posts: 1,715	Re: Ocho Cinco In B&G Why the hell do we always try to initiate trades when CJ is working hard to get out of Cinnci? Openly coveting their another teams player only increases the asking price for that player. It's simple supply and demand and I pray that all this hype about CJ is Rosenhaus's way of getting attention for his client. Trading for CJ is a dumb move that would only propagate the same mistakes we've already made in the past. __________________ Redskinsly, _________Skinny Tee_________

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