We Should draft Jordy Nelson - Kansas State WR in the 3rd

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by That Guy

there's nothing wrong with going OL in the first, but the hardest two positions to fill are franchise QB and elite pass rushing DE. If harvey or merling (or DRC) are there, i'd lean towards them first, since DL is deep this draft and there always seem to be starting NFL guards around the 20-30th picks every year.

I do feel that a true shutdown CB is the hardest thing to find because they are even more uncommon than a franchise QB, even if they do not have as strong an impact on the outcome of games. Champ, Nnamdi, and maybe Nate Clements are the only shutdown CBs in the NFL (Cromartie has a chance if he continues to develop). Samuel, Tillman, Winfield, Springs, Trufant, Ronde Barber, Newman, Leigh Bodden, McAllister, and Rasheen Mathis are all guys I'd want on my team, but I can't say any of them are really lockdown type players, and that makes a difference.

Finding a complete DE is really difficult (Jared Allen, Aaron Kampman may be the only two), but it's not so hard to find an elite pass rusher if you are willing to skimp on size. Of course, taking Merling isn't skimping on size, but Harvey definately is.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I do feel that a true shutdown CB is the hardest thing to find because they are even more uncommon than a franchise QB, even if they do not have as strong an impact on the outcome of games. Champ, Nnamdi, and maybe Nate Clements are the only shutdown CBs in the NFL (Cromartie has a chance if he continues to develop). Samuel, Tillman, Winfield, Springs, Trufant, Ronde Barber, Newman, Leigh Bodden, McAllister, and Rasheen Mathis are all guys I'd want on my team, but I can't say any of them are really lockdown type players, and that makes a difference.

Finding a complete DE is really difficult (Jared Allen, Aaron Kampman may be the only two), but it's not so hard to find an elite pass rusher if you are willing to skimp on size. Of course, taking Merling isn't skimping on size, but Harvey definately is.

Speaking of Merling, I think I heard he just had hernia surgery.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Speaking of Merling, I think I heard he just had hernia surgery.

That doesn't sound pleasant. I mean, for his draft stock, but also just in general.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by DGreene28

Jordy Nelson is big 6'3" 217lbs and has some good speed running 4.51 at the combine. I saw him toast Aqib Talib multiple times last season in the Kansas vs Kansas State game. He was clearly faster then Talib smoking him down the sideline after a catch by a good margin (Talib runs a 4.44). Everybody who watches tape on this guy is falling in love with his game up here. He could be there in the 3rd round... hopefully he's high on the skins draft board.


02/21/08 - If a player has a flaw, the combine will find it. Nelson expects to do well in the physical part of the combine, but he thinks he'll really shine in the psychology. He's a humble, small-town kid from Riley. He went to a small high school, Riley County. He went to K-State originally as a walk-on and made himself into an All-American. Yeah, looks like the psychological stuff will be a breeze. "I don't think I'll probably be that outstanding in the physical drills," Nelson said. "But I'll be right in the pack, doing good. The personality stuff -- I'm going to be someone who is going to work hard and do what they ask. "I won't be causing any problems on the field or off the field. I think everyone pretty much knows the athletic ability. You have to sell the person you are, how you act. They're possibly going to be paying you a lot of money. They don't want to waste it." Nelson is 6-foot-3, 217 pounds and he has run a 4.4 40-yard dash. The overwhelming image I have of his 2007 season is when he beat Kansas cornerback Aqib Talib for a touchdown early in the KU-KSU game in Manhattan. - Bob Lutz, The Wichita Eagle
02/08/08 - PRO POTENTIAL: WR Jordy Nelson - As a speedy, 6-foot-3 target with great hands, Nelson could be a first-day selection. He can help an NFL team in a variety of spots, including on special teams, after beginning his college career as a defensive back. 02/07/08 - 02/07/08 - Draft Scout Risers: Eddie Royal and California wide receiver Lavelle Hawkins were undoubtedly the two most impressive receivers at the Senior Bowl, but perhaps the wideout who opened the most eyes with his performance in Mobile was Kansas State Jordy Nelson. Nelson went from former walk-on to an All-American as a senior, finishing second in the nation in both receptions (122) and receiving yards (1,606). Many scouts attributed this sudden rise in success to the Wildcats' passing game, but Nelson's reliable route-running, hands, and size still has scouts buzzing.

Yeah, but i think he'll be gone by the third round and i don't think we should reach in the 2nd to get him. Here are some dudes that might be around:
(I hope that Jordy or Caldwell are around but i doubt it)

William Franklin, Missouri
Height: 6-0. Weight: 214.
Projected 40 Time: 4.40.
Combine 40 Time: 4.37.
Vertical: 34.5. Broad .
Projected Round: 3.
William Franklin's 4.37 (at 214 pounds) made some noise at the combine. His vertical wasn't too shabby either.





Paul Hubbard, Wisconsin
Height: 6-2. Weight: 221.
Projected 40 Time: 4.43.
Combine 40 Time: 4.47.
Pro Day 40 Time: 4.38.
Vertical: 39.5. Broad 10-6.
Projected Round: 3-4.

YouTube - Paul Hubbard



Jerome Simpson, Coastal Carolina
Height: 6-1. Weight: 190.
Projected 40 Time: 4.46.
Combine 40 Time: 4.37.
Vertical: 37.5. Broad 11-4.
Projected Round: 4.



Arman Shields, Richmond
Height: 6-0. Weight: 194.
Projected 40 Time: 4.44.
Combine 40 Time: 4.44.
Vertical: 37.5. Broad 10.8.
Projected Round: 7-FA.

YouTube - Arman Shields

[skinzaholic73]

I love this post! Jordy is awesome! I pray the skins have this guy on their radar we could really use a guy like this.Pick him up 3rd rd.Baby(if he's still there..he may be gone by second).

[SeanTaylor21]

Originally Posted by skinzaholic73

I love this post! Jordy is awesome! I pray the skins have this guy on their radar we could really use a guy like this.Pick him up 3rd rd.Baby(if he's still there..he may be gone by second).

Thats why its going to be an akward situatuion for the redskins in the second round, they will probably ponder whether to take Jordy Nelson in the second or to see if he falls to the third round.

[DGreene28]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Yeah, but i think he'll be gone by the third round and i don't think we should reach in the 2nd to get him. Here are some dudes that might be around:
(I hope that Jordy or Caldwell are around but i doubt it)

William Franklin, Missouri
Height: 6-0. Weight: 214.
Projected 40 Time: 4.40.
Combine 40 Time: 4.37.
Vertical: 34.5. Broad .
Projected Round: 3.
William Franklin's 4.37 (at 214 pounds) made some noise at the combine. His vertical wasn't too shabby either.





Paul Hubbard, Wisconsin
Height: 6-2. Weight: 221.
Projected 40 Time: 4.43.
Combine 40 Time: 4.47.
Pro Day 40 Time: 4.38.
Vertical: 39.5. Broad 10-6.
Projected Round: 3-4.

YouTube - Paul Hubbard



Jerome Simpson, Coastal Carolina
Height: 6-1. Weight: 190.
Projected 40 Time: 4.46.
Combine 40 Time: 4.37.
Vertical: 37.5. Broad 11-4.
Projected Round: 4.



Arman Shields, Richmond
Height: 6-0. Weight: 194.
Projected 40 Time: 4.44.
Combine 40 Time: 4.44.
Vertical: 37.5. Broad 10.8.
Projected Round: 7-FA.

YouTube - Arman Shields

You may be right but I think I'd rather reach for Jordy in the 2nd then go with one of these guys. IMO its a precipitous drop off in talent. It looks like Albert may be a top 10 pick anyway so we unfortunately we wont have to worry about it.

[WaldSkins]

Would he be available with our compentsary pick in the third. Or would we have to take him with our original 3rd.

[SeanTaylor21]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

Would he be available with our compentsary pick in the third. Or would we have to take him with our original 3rd.

The only thing with that is that Jordy might be picked in the second because of how he was at the combine and the way he performed all year long.