If The Redskins Had the First Overall Pick...

SmootSmack · 04-13-2008, 08:49 PM

Who should they draft?

Don't think there any rumors that they are trading up for the top overall pick or anything like that, I'm just curious as to who you would want the Redskins to pick if they had the first overall pick.

Please note that this is strictly for the Redskins, so consider what you think the team's needs are and whether you think they should go for need or best player available (or the top need might happen to also be the best player).

And you can't trade the pick.

mooby · 04-13-2008, 08:53 PM

damnit lol I was gonna say trade the pick down so we can stock up even more, the first overall selection should be going to the team that needs the most help.

But since we can't do that, I say go with Chris Long. DE = need, and it just so happens he's also one of the best players available. I think he'd be just as good in a 4-3 as they say he would be in a 3-4.

CPAlltheWay012 · 04-13-2008, 08:55 PM

Glenn Dorsey at DT..

I would pick Chris Long only if we were using 3-4 scenario

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 04-13-2008, 09:08 PM

Glenn Dorsey

dmek25 · 04-13-2008, 09:10 PM

vern golston( sp?)

Dirtbag59 · 04-13-2008, 09:14 PM

Calias Campbell

Sorry, I just had to do that, but in all seriousness it would probably be Chris Long, given the guy can do everything with his hand in the dirt. He also has some potential to play LB, though I would imagine that it's as an emergency LB in a 4-3 system. Still Long has the potential to be the type of player that would make some older fan forget Charles Mann ever existed.

724Skinsfan · 04-13-2008, 09:32 PM

Long...Jake Long. Our needs for a future franchise o-lineman are closer than just about any other position. I wouldn't cry if we grabbed the other Long guy though.

That Guy · 04-13-2008, 09:43 PM

gholston, long, ellis... all good players. long is probably the safest bet.

BeastsoftheNFCeast · 04-13-2008, 10:59 PM

Without a doubt, Chris Long...He can play DE and DT, he is perfect for what our defense likes. He would 100% replace Phillip Daniels. I couldnt think of a better complement to Carter, its almost as if he were made for us.

DiehardSkin88 · 04-13-2008, 11:19 PM

Jake Long. Tackles like that dont come around often and we could fill up de in the 2nd considering we would have the first second round pick lol

djnemo65 · 04-13-2008, 11:32 PM

I think Dorsey is the best player in the draft, and he fits our scheme as well.

mooby · 04-13-2008, 11:34 PM

I have to say, I would've gone with Jake Long but I feel like we should give Stephon Heyer a chance to improve, he impressed me last year given that he was an undrafted rookie suddenly pressed into starting action. With another season under his belt and some more coaching from Bugel he could really develop into a good replacement for Jansen some day.

Jansen is the only tackle I'm really worried about, I think Samuels is fine on the left side for at least 2 more seasons, but Jansen has had two seasons ended before they started in his last 4 years. I don't even know if he'll be the same player when he comes back from that gruesome ankle injury he suffered against the Dolphins. When I first saw the angle his foot was at compared to the way he was lying on the ground I was genuinely concerned that he might not be able to rehab it back to being normal again.

I would love to pick up Brandon Albert this year though, because guard is where we should be more concerned and he would be a fine replacement for Kendall/Thomas should he get injured.

Dirtbag59 · 04-13-2008, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

Jansen is the only tackle I'm really worried about, I think Samuels is fine on the left side for at least 2 more seasons, but Jansen has had two seasons ended before they started in his last 4 years. I don't even know if he'll be the same player when he comes back from that gruesome ankle injury he suffered against the Dolphins. When I first saw the angle his foot was at compared to the way he was lying on the ground I was genuinely concerned that he might not be able to rehab it back to being normal again.

The funny thing is that Samuals seems to have become the leagues best offensive tackle the last few years, which is funny especially considering that some people proposed a trade to move up and get Robert Gallery a few years ago.

But honestly I think that Samuals ability is a big reason why we're able to compete with teams with a great pass rush like the Giants on a yearly basis while the best offense in the league in New England can't protect Brady to save their life.

SC Skins Fan · 04-14-2008, 12:03 AM

Chris Long is the best player in this draft and it isn't even close. The only reason people still talk about Jake Long, Vernon Gholston, and Glenn Dorsey as potentially better players is because they went to bigger football schools and everyone watched them play on Saturday (and Gholston is a workout warrior). I watched Chris Long play every Saturday and he is the best college football player I've seen. He is relentless, eats up blockers, uses his hands better than any DE I've seen at the college level, forces teams to gameplan against him, got double teamed almost every single play because he was so much better than anyone else Virginia had on D, and still put up sick stats. For those who say he would be better in a 3-4, I say you are dead wrong. I guess that comes because he played in Groh's 3-4 and because the 'experts' say he might be suited to that defense. I think he was misused a lot of time as a 2-gap player and that if he could just take the edge he would be an absolute monster. The guy is 275 lbs, runs a 4.75, is built like a friggin' truck, and is extremely quick off the ball when given the opportunity to rush the passer. I hope he gets to play in a 4-3 in the NFL because he will dominate. He's not a 'tweener' he is a classic DE and I only wish he could wear burgundy and gold.

Not even a contest, Chris Long by a mile and a half.

djnemo65 · 04-14-2008, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Chris Long is the best player in this draft and it isn't even close. The only reason people still talk about Jake Long, Vernon Gholston, and Glenn Dorsey as potentially better players is because they went to bigger football schools and everyone watched them play on Saturday (and Gholston is a workout warrior). I watched Chris Long play every Saturday and he is the best college football player I've seen. He is relentless, eats up blockers, uses his hands better than any DE I've seen at the college level, forces teams to gameplan against him, got double teamed almost every single play because he was so much better than anyone else Virginia had on D, and still put up sick stats. For those who say he would be better in a 3-4, I say you are dead wrong. I guess that comes because he played in Groh's 3-4 and because the 'experts' say he might be suited to that defense. I think he was misused a lot of time as a 2-gap player and that if he could just take the edge he would be an absolute monster. The guy is 275 lbs, runs a 4.75, is built like a friggin' truck, and is extremely quick off the ball when given the opportunity to rush the passer. I hope he gets to play in a 4-3 in the NFL because he will dominate. He's not a 'tweener' he is a classic DE and I only wish he could wear burgundy and gold.

Not even a contest, Chris Long by a mile and a half.

Oh come on. Maybe Long is the best player in the draft but it's definitely close.

04-13-2008, 08:49 PM	#1
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	If The Redskins Had the First Overall Pick... Who should they draft? Don't think there any rumors that they are trading up for the top overall pick or anything like that, I'm just curious as to who you would want the Redskins to pick if they had the first overall pick. Please note that this is strictly for the Redskins, so consider what you think the team's needs are and whether you think they should go for need or best player available (or the top need might happen to also be the best player). And you can't trade the pick. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

04-13-2008, 08:53 PM	#2
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,468	Re: If The Redskins Had the First Overall Pick... damnit lol I was gonna say trade the pick down so we can stock up even more, the first overall selection should be going to the team that needs the most help. But since we can't do that, I say go with Chris Long. DE = need, and it just so happens he's also one of the best players available. I think he'd be just as good in a 4-3 as they say he would be in a 3-4. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

04-13-2008, 08:55 PM	#3
CPAlltheWay012 Special Teams Join Date: May 2007 Location: B-Town Posts: 166	Re: If The Redskins Had the First Overall Pick... Glenn Dorsey at DT.. I would pick Chris Long only if we were using 3-4 scenario __________________ Check out old Skins highlights http://vimeo.com/user343526/videos

04-13-2008, 09:08 PM	#4
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04-13-2008, 09:10 PM	#5
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: If The Redskins Had the First Overall Pick... vern golston( sp?) __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

04-13-2008, 09:14 PM	#6
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 39 Posts: 14,750	Re: If The Redskins Had the First Overall Pick... Calias Campbell Sorry, I just had to do that, but in all seriousness it would probably be Chris Long, given the guy can do everything with his hand in the dirt. He also has some potential to play LB, though I would imagine that it's as an emergency LB in a 4-3 system. Still Long has the potential to be the type of player that would make some older fan forget Charles Mann ever existed. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

04-13-2008, 09:32 PM	#7
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: If The Redskins Had the First Overall Pick... Long...Jake Long. Our needs for a future franchise o-lineman are closer than just about any other position. I wouldn't cry if we grabbed the other Long guy though. __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

04-13-2008, 09:43 PM	#8
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: If The Redskins Had the First Overall Pick... gholston, long, ellis... all good players. long is probably the safest bet.

04-13-2008, 10:59 PM	#9
BeastsoftheNFCeast Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 331	Re: If The Redskins Had the First Overall Pick... Without a doubt, Chris Long...He can play DE and DT, he is perfect for what our defense likes. He would 100% replace Phillip Daniels. I couldnt think of a better complement to Carter, its almost as if he were made for us.

04-13-2008, 11:19 PM	#10
DiehardSkin88 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 162	Re: If The Redskins Had the First Overall Pick... Jake Long. Tackles like that dont come around often and we could fill up de in the 2nd considering we would have the first second round pick lol

04-13-2008, 11:32 PM	#11
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Re: If The Redskins Had the First Overall Pick... I think Dorsey is the best player in the draft, and he fits our scheme as well.

04-13-2008, 11:34 PM	#12
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,468	Re: If The Redskins Had the First Overall Pick... I have to say, I would've gone with Jake Long but I feel like we should give Stephon Heyer a chance to improve, he impressed me last year given that he was an undrafted rookie suddenly pressed into starting action. With another season under his belt and some more coaching from Bugel he could really develop into a good replacement for Jansen some day. Jansen is the only tackle I'm really worried about, I think Samuels is fine on the left side for at least 2 more seasons, but Jansen has had two seasons ended before they started in his last 4 years. I don't even know if he'll be the same player when he comes back from that gruesome ankle injury he suffered against the Dolphins. When I first saw the angle his foot was at compared to the way he was lying on the ground I was genuinely concerned that he might not be able to rehab it back to being normal again. I would love to pick up Brandon Albert this year though, because guard is where we should be more concerned and he would be a fine replacement for Kendall/Thomas should he get injured. __________________ Hail to the Football Team

04-14-2008, 12:03 AM	#14
SC Skins Fan The Starter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,555	Re: If The Redskins Had the First Overall Pick... Chris Long is the best player in this draft and it isn't even close. The only reason people still talk about Jake Long, Vernon Gholston, and Glenn Dorsey as potentially better players is because they went to bigger football schools and everyone watched them play on Saturday (and Gholston is a workout warrior). I watched Chris Long play every Saturday and he is the best college football player I've seen. He is relentless, eats up blockers, uses his hands better than any DE I've seen at the college level, forces teams to gameplan against him, got double teamed almost every single play because he was so much better than anyone else Virginia had on D, and still put up sick stats. For those who say he would be better in a 3-4, I say you are dead wrong. I guess that comes because he played in Groh's 3-4 and because the 'experts' say he might be suited to that defense. I think he was misused a lot of time as a 2-gap player and that if he could just take the edge he would be an absolute monster. The guy is 275 lbs, runs a 4.75, is built like a friggin' truck, and is extremely quick off the ball when given the opportunity to rush the passer. I hope he gets to play in a 4-3 in the NFL because he will dominate. He's not a 'tweener' he is a classic DE and I only wish he could wear burgundy and gold. Not even a contest, Chris Long by a mile and a half. __________________ It has taken a long time, but I have finally realized that nothing I say about the Redskins will have any effect upon anything the Redskins do.

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