Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James

[djnemo65]

Anyway, I don't have any issues with this move. While James has certainly been a disappointment, he still has enough upside to warrant the investment of a conditional 7th. In college he was arguably the best end in the country, and it has been injuries rather than talent which has prevented him from achieving that kind of success in the pro's. Also, remember Minnesota has what many consider to be the best Dline in football. We don't, so the fact that there wasn't room for him on that roster doesn't mean we should necessarily dust off the old "chasing other people's trash again" argument.

[Cowell]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Anyway, I don't have any issues with this move. While James has certainly been a disappointment, he still has enough upside to warrant the investment of a conditional 7th. In college he was arguably the best end in the country, and it has been injuries rather than talent which has prevented him from achieving that kind of success in the pro's. Also, remember Minnesota has what many consider to be the best Dline in football. We don't, so the fact that there wasn't room for him on that roster doesn't mean we should necessarily dust off the old "chasing other people's trash again" argument.

I have to agree w/ most of this. I know he has been injured and injuries are a problem. I think (if he can pass him physical) he could be an asset to this team as a solid back-up, something we need on the dline.

[RIGGO/NYC]

huh, actually I have more than 10 posts, but please do not refer to this passing of time as a carreer. But back to my point, this trade should have been done for a nickle, instead of a washed out pass rusher. I know some idiot is going to say washed out is inaccurate, due to his age of 25, but he is washed out and will do absolutely nothing with the skins. Just to show you how stupid this front office is, he will make the team, costing us a 7th rounder and have no more than 2 sacks. This is Jerome Mathis all over again, but at least Mathis was the vet min and did not cost a pick potentially.

[djnemo65]

[QUOTE=RIGGO/NYC;450235]huh, actually I have more than 10 posts, QUOTE]

Hahaha, your post questioning how to start a thread was your 10th post. Therefore when you were trying to start a thread you would have had only 9 posts. Wow.

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by RIGGO/NYC

I know some idiot is going to say washed out is inaccurate, due to his age of 25, but he is washed out and will do absolutely nothing with the skins. Just to show you how stupid this front office is, he will make the team, costing us a 7th rounder and have no more than 2 sacks. This is Jerome Mathis all over again, but at least Mathis was the vet min and did not cost a pick potentially.

Everybody who disagrees with you is an idiot. That's pure genius. Why are you so worked up newbie?

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Everybody who disagrees with you is an idiot. That's pure genius. Why are you so worked up newbie?

Isn't the expression washed up, not washed out? As in, Courney Penn is all washed up?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by RIGGO/NYC

huh, actually I have more than 10 posts, but please do not refer to this passing of time as a carreer. But back to my point, this trade should have been done for a nickle, instead of a washed out pass rusher. I know some idiot is going to say washed out is inaccurate, due to his age of 25, but he is washed out and will do absolutely nothing with the skins. Just to show you how stupid this front office is, he will make the team, costing us a 7th rounder and have no more than 2 sacks. This is Jerome Mathis all over again, but at least Mathis was the vet min and did not cost a pick potentially.

He's making 1 million.

Do you know how much the 'vet min' is? It's going to be between 650,000-800,000 this season.

Or just a hair under 1 million, which is what James is making.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

He's making 1 million.

Do you know how much the 'vet min' is? It's going to be between 650,000-800,000 this season.

Or just a hair under 1 million, which is what James is making.

From JLC and Redskins Insider:

"Also, I screwed something up yesterday and, like a moron, forgot what year it was (seriously) when looking at Erasmus James's contract. Indeed he does have a $1 million salary left on his contract ... but that's in 2009. In 2008 he will earn $695,000 if he makes the Redskins. So he has two seasons left on his deal."

Santana Moss's Charity Bashes/Waiting For Erasmus - Redskins Insider

[EXoffender]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

From JLC and Redskins Insider:

"Also, I screwed something up yesterday and, like a moron, forgot what year it was (seriously) when looking at Erasmus James's contract. Indeed he does have a $1 million salary left on his contract ... but that's in 2009. In 2008 he will earn $695,000 if he makes the Redskins. So he has two seasons left on his deal."

Santana Moss's Charity Bashes/Waiting For Erasmus - Redskins Insider

That being said it's a good deal. The team has blown way more cash up front and draft picks to boot. We're still not exactly desperate at the DE spot. Are we still sulking over not drafting Calais Campbell?

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

From JLC and Redskins Insider:

"Also, I screwed something up yesterday and, like a moron, forgot what year it was (seriously) when looking at Erasmus James's contract. Indeed he does have a $1 million salary left on his contract ... but that's in 2009. In 2008 he will earn $695,000 if he makes the Redskins. So he has two seasons left on his deal."

Santana Moss's Charity Bashes/Waiting For Erasmus - Redskins Insider

That is a fantastic deal..plus it gives us leverage for a 2nd year too.
Much better than initially thought....now we have more reason to fully rehab this guy. Not to mention he only gets paid if he plays in a game in 08.
I'm really happy about this now.

[MTK]

Not a bad risk at all. We only lose a pick if he makes the team.

[12thMan]

I'm still laughing at Courney Penn?

F*ckin priceless.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I'm still laughing at Courney Penn?

F*ckin priceless.

Courtney Penn is on our school board-see below, I got him mixed up w/courtney brown & misspelled his name cause the 'h' on my keyboard gets stuck a lot. Glad it brought some laughs! Also glad we got E. James, maybe he'll regain his form w/time.

Courtney A. Penn. Effective July 1, 2007, Mr. Penn began his second three-year term on the School Board. He is the Special Assistant to the President of Roanoke College. Mr. Penn is involved in a wide range of civic activities including the Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Beta Phi Boule of Sigma Pi Phi Fraternity, Inc., he serves as co-chairman of the United Way Community Engagement Program and is a member on the State Board of Juvenile Justice. Mr. Penn has served as a member of the Roanoke City Advisory Board for Human Development and the Roanoke City Arts Commission and was chair of the education committee of the Roanoke Branch NAACP. He has three children, and two who are school-age attend Roanoke City Public Schools.

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Courtney Penn is on our school board-see below, I got him mixed up w/courtney brown & misspelled his name cause the 'h' on my keyboard gets stuck a lot. Glad it brought some laughs! Also glad we got E. James, maybe he'll regain his form w/time.

We didn't pass on Courney Penn that year freddy. He was the number 1 overall pick to Cleveland. We took Lavar second and Samuels third.

Edit: Someone already pointed that out my bad.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Courtney Penn is on our school board-see below, I got him mixed up w/courtney brown & misspelled his name cause the 'h' on my keyboard gets stuck a lot. Glad it brought some laughs! Also glad we got E. James, maybe he'll regain his form w/time.

Courtney A. Penn. Effective July 1, 2007, Mr. Penn began his second three-year term on the School Board. He is the Special Assistant to the President of Roanoke College. Mr. Penn is involved in a wide range of civic activities including the Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Beta Phi Boule of Sigma Pi Phi Fraternity, Inc., he serves as co-chairman of the United Way Community Engagement Program and is a member on the State Board of Juvenile Justice. Mr. Penn has served as a member of the Roanoke City Advisory Board for Human Development and the Roanoke City Arts Commission and was chair of the education committee of the Roanoke Branch NAACP. He has three children, and two who are school-age attend Roanoke City Public Schools.

Courtney Penn meet Norman Einstein

Where's the "H" in Courtney Penn (or Courtney Brown for that matter)?

Glad you have a sense of humor