Update: McCain Selects Gov. Sarah Palin as Running Mate

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Buster

Yep. The Bush administration has put more Hispanics, Blacks and other minorities in HIGH-LEVEL cabinet positions and staff than the Clinton admin...yet Bush is still the racist and Clinton, who had an all-white cabinet is the one who represents minorities.

Aren't stereotypes great?

It's about quality not quantity.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by saden1

It's about quality not quantity.

I think you can say the quality of the positions the individuals in question were appointed to is pretty damn high. The quality of the individuals however... that's another story.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by saden1

It's about quality not quantity.

Colin Powell, Condi Rice, others aren't quality?


You could say that if Clinton's quantity wasn't zero.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Buster

Colin Powell, Condi Rice, others aren't quality?


You could say that if Clinton's quantity wasn't zero.

Colin Powell? Yes with an astrik. Condi Rice? Absolutely Not! Senior Alberto? No comment.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Buster

Yep. The Bush administration has put more Hispanics, Blacks and other minorities in HIGH-LEVEL cabinet positions and staff than the Clinton admin...yet Bush is still the racist and Clinton, who had an all-white cabinet is the one who represents minorities.

Aren't stereotypes great?

Clinton had an all-white cabinet? That doesn't sound right. What about Ron Brown, Henry Cisneros, and Mike Espy?

[FRPLG]

Bill Richardson too.

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Clinton had an all-white cabinet? That doesn't sound right. What about Ron Brown, Henry Cisneros, and Mike Espy?

Wait...how did Mike Espy have time to being a Cabinet Official while being on our practice squad?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Bill Richardson too.



Wait...how did Mike Espy have time to being a Cabinet Official while being on our practice squad?

That's why he could never make it as an NFL receiver, he just wasn't committed to the job.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Reading these post the people I believe to be democratic from their prior and current post have made sexest and racest type remarks. Funny isn't that what they say consevatives do.

Whose posts are you referring to? Hess's?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

Whose posts are you referring to? Hess's?

I'm not going to name each peoson but if you read the post on this thread its not hard to figure out. I'm not sure if Hess is a Dem because I cannot rember her post from prior threads to know. If I had to guess I'd lean that way.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I'm not going to name each peoson but if you read the post on this thread its not hard to figure out. I'm not sure if Hess is a Dem because I cannot rember her post from prior threads to know. If I had to guess I'd lean that way.

Wrong.. ....

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Wrong.. ....

Thats why I did not name who I thought because they would say I'm wrong. Let me guess your an independent but leaning toward OBama.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I'm not going to name each peoson but if you read the post on this thread its not hard to figure out. I'm not sure if Hess is a Dem because I cannot rember her post from prior threads to know. If I had to guess I'd lean that way.

I ask because I read through and didn't see anything particularly offensive. I'm not saying this is the greatest political discussion of all time but I don't think it is sexist.

[FRPLG]

Margaret Thatcher is regarded as a foremost world leader and she went out of power 20 years ago.

I strongly believe that neither race nor gender should not play a role in who is president or vice-president. I also strongly believe that it does. In this case I think we are far more ready as a populous for a woman leader than a black leader. It's crap for sure but I do think it to be the case.

I like this pick. Reservedly though since I know so little of her. If she can reresent herself well against Biden then I think it is a great pick. Her core values fit in with waht many conservative detractors were uncomfortable with McCain. She's a young outside actually known more for leading than "organizing". My fears are that she hasn't been nearly as vetted as other candidates. What skeletons exist?

In that same vein though, I find the notion that "no one knows her" being a negative to be laughable.

We elect incumbents and outsiders for President in this country lately. It is very difficult for insiders to make headway.

Not since Nixon has a true insider been elected. Hell Ford almost lost his own primary and then got trounced by Carter.

It has gone:

Carter (governor)
Reagan (governor)
Bush I (vice-president incumbent)
Clinton (govenor)
Bush (govenor)

It is noteworthy that many of those Presidents ran against insiders too.

In fact I think one thing Obama has going for him in this is that he is so fresh and seen as an outsider. Repubs are doing the darndest to paint that as inexperience but for a good amount of people it actually is a positive.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Margaret Thatcher is regarded as a foremost world leader and she went out of power 20 years ago.

You are talking about a place far older and wiser than the US. I hate to say it but we haven't grown up yet. We are still adolescents in the eyes of the rest of the world. That's not a knock on America, it's just fact.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

You are talking about a place far older and wiser than the US. I hate to say it but we haven't grown up yet. We are still adolescents in the eyes of the rest of the world. That's not a knock on America, it's just fact.

It's a fact? How so?

Do you have quantitative data to backup a massive, sweeping assertion about what the "rest of the world" thinks?

Have you spoken with a sufficient portion of the non-U.S. population of the world to extrapolate that "the rest of the world" holds a certain view of the U.S.?

Simply declaring something a fact doesn't make it so. I can declare that up is down and red is blue as well, but it doesn't make it any more rational.