I waited & months for this crap?

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I just want to know where are all those people that thought that picking up someone like Randy Moss or Chad Johnson was a bad idea. Once again, JC f'ed big time during this game, but everyone has been talking about the need for a playmaker receiver. Santana Moss is not a playmaker receiver, Plaxico Burress is, so is T.O., so is Randy Moss. The fact that we were throwing to James Thrash at the end of the game, should be a red flag.

Anyway, this game is over and there's another game next week. I hope we learn from these mistakes and I hope the team picks up on things that worked out during the game.

We have 3 guys we picked up in the draft that should contribute during the season, unfortunately not soon enough. They should activate Fred Davis and put him in the mix, after all he had a decent camp, hopefully Thomas and Kelly can start contributing by game 5 or 6.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

We have 3 guys we picked up in the draft that should contribute during the season, unfortunately not soon enough. They should activate Fred Davis and put him in the mix, after all he had a decent camp, hopefully Thomas and Kelly can start contributing by game 5 or 6.

I say play more of both of them. Randle El is a bust in my opinion, not much of a playmaker at all. He has had his moments, but not too many. Thrown in these tall kids and let them run. Santana still has long ball threat attached to him, but since the West Coast is shorter passing, thus the very reason we picked him up is negated. Speed is only good for medium to longer routes or should I say it is maximized. As for Thrash? He was at his height in team value during his first run with us(Norv) as the return man and 5th WR, when we had Westbrook, Connelly, Andre Reed, Alvin Harper, etc. He was OK when Brad Johnson was here, but never became a feature WR with us.

[Twilbert07]

The Redskins picked up where they left off at the end of preseason. We have no offense, which is ironic given that we have an offensive-minded head coach.

[53Fan]

Gosh I thought we'd look great with a brand new coach and a new offense for everyone to learn. Yea we looked bad but lets get real. We stunk and lost to the super bowl champs 16-7 in our first game of the season.The giants started o-2 last year and won the super bowl. What were people saying about Manning and the Giants then? Look I know we can play a lot better. I believe we will.

[hagams]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

Okay now that this joke of a game is over and I'm slapped back to reality i begin to think. The world is really about to end since My Red Sox is the team to beat and my Skins can barely stay afloat. First things first I'm sorry for all the Joe Gibbs bashing I did last year for time management and stupid play calling. He can't be the idiot who decided to still try to run the ball with 6 minutes left in the game. Second the defense despite missing players and a few playing hurt did an awesome job for stopping the bleeding early. So know to the bashing.

1) Zorn first game as a coach was as expected. I din't expect him to walk on water or turn it into wine but,wtf? The way the plays was called he has no busy being our O.C. let alone our Head Coach. The entire game was third and long because we had predictable runs on first and second. Its like i was watching the computer on John Madden calling plays. Even my 4 year old son asked me why don't they pass?

2) Campbell is turning into the same dink and dunk loser he replaced in Mark Brunell. I thought we picked this kid up because of his strong arm but i didn't see a long pass thrown until the last 2 minutes of the game. He didn't have a terrible game but he did have a predictable one. One that lets the defense cheat and win the game. If he doesn't let the ball go sooner or turn it up Collins or my boy COLT will be breathing down HIS Horsecollar.

3) Santana Moss, dude really.. Hang on to the ball.

4) I think this team is starting to end in the same league as the Cardinals or the Ravens. Every year they trick you with pick-ups that make you believe they might make a run or do good and each year they fold..No better then a wildcard one and done.

So I say i waited seven months for this? Its like the scary movie we've seen five times over. We already know whats going to happen but we butcher ourselves with this crap. The only bright star so far is our defense. Is it early yes. But we have so much to fix to make a real run.

1. Agreed on the play calling, but how far in depth can they go into a 2 minute offense etc. during the off-season. By far my biggest problem with the play calling is that they didn't try to get the ball to Cooley early. That would have kept the LB's from being able to roam free for sacks and tackles for losses.

2. JC is not firing on all cylinders. There is something going on behind the scenes. Maybe the footwork zorn has him doing or something. But something isn't right. I'm not calling for, nor will I be calling for his head this season, but it needs to be addressed before next Sunday.

3. Agreed. Santana is starting his Sh*t again. Maybe we should have drafted another small fast wide receiver and got rid of him, instead of picking up to big WR's.

4. I never thought we would be "making a run" this year. Everything is too new. I just hope that the coach and JC, and the rest of the Offense took notes. Because they played horrible ball all game.

Defense: You freaking rock! There was a couple times that I wanted to toss the T.V out the window. Mostly for getting run over by Brandon Jacobs.....but.....dude is freaking huge.

[Schneed10]

It's no surprise we sucked. We sucked in the preseason, that wasn't a mirage (I tried to tell ya!). And there's historical precedent: Hasselbeck took a long time to play decently in this offense too.

Expecting the passing game to hit the groud running was entirely unrealistic. We have to try to win with Portis and defense, and hope our passing game does just enough to get by.

[tdSKINS1]

I'm tired of hearing about this Colt Brennan bullshit.. JC might be looking rough but he's got 4 years under his belt compared to Colt. I'm sorry but I highly highly highly doubt Colt would be worth a shit right now if he was starting. Its one game we just have to build i guess. Yes i have my doubts also about a lot of things watching this game but lets see what JZ can do

[prinzeofmoval]

Originally Posted by tdSKINS1

I'm tired of hearing about this Colt Brennan bullshit.. JC might be looking rough but he's got 4 years under his belt compared to Colt. I'm sorry but I highly highly highly doubt Colt would be worth a shit right now if he was starting. Its one game we just have to build i guess. Yes i have my doubts also about a lot of things watching this game but lets see what JZ can do

4 years under his belt and what has he done? Lets call a spade a spade..He's a mediocre Qb and will not be the one whom will take us to the next level. Let me ask you. If you know that you will dump your girl in a year would you waste your time and date her or would you move to bigger and better things..the hour glass is flipped and its only a matter before Colt or Collins move in

[Redskin]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

4 years under his belt and what has he done? Lets call a spade a spade..He's a mediocre Qb and will not be the one whom will take us to the next level. Let me ask you. If you know that you will dump your girl in a year would you waste your time and date her or would you move to bigger and better things..the hour glass is flipped and its only a matter before Colt or Collins move in

4 years of experience? try 3, 4 would be after this year and thats just talking about his time in the NFL. JC has only started 21 games, less then a season and a half. You cant tell me your considering carrying a clip board around the sidelines experience. You sound like a Giants fan talking about Eli 2 years ago, you might be in the wrong forum, check the url. This might be more suitable for you New York Giants Message Boards - Forums.

And no I would continue to date that girl for a year because its a sure thing and predictable. Besides she might show me something new and make me change my mind.

[prinzeofmoval]

Originally Posted by Redskin

4 years of experience? try 3, 4 would be after this year and thats just talking about his time in the NFL. JC has only started 21 games, less then a season and a half. You cant tell me your considering carrying a clip board around the sidelines experience. You sound like a Giants fan talking about Eli 2 years ago, you might be in the wrong forum, check the url. This might be more suitable for you New York Giants Message Boards - Forums.

And no I would continue to date that girl for a year because its a sure thing and predictable. Besides she might show me something new and make me change my mind.

And you think that the fans was wrong for throwing stones at Eli? He had four good games last year. He led the lead in interceptions last year. All he had was a playoff run that was much like trent dilfer and the Ravens a few years back. Don't make mistakes and the defense will put you in position to win it. Even today he had happy feet. He's still the same Eli. As for Campbell it is what it is.. If you can play you can play and our boy is mediocre. And any idiot who will stay with a doomed relationship sounds like a loser. And my friend we should hold ourselves to an higher quality. We not just any team.

[redskinsgirl]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

4 years under his belt and what has he done? Lets call a spade a spade..He's a mediocre Qb and will not be the one whom will take us to the next level. Let me ask you. If you know that you will dump your girl in a year would you waste your time and date her or would you move to bigger and better things..the hour glass is flipped and its only a matter before Colt or Collins move in

Techinically JC only has one season under his belt. What has Moss and Randle EL done lately????? The Oline??? I hate when fans say what have JC done lately? I know JC hasn't played like Brady, but you act like his receivers have being playing like T.O. JC might be a mediocre QB, but maybe his recievers are mediocre which will produce mediocre results. Lets be real the whole offense might need a makeover at all positions not just at QB.

You have a strong arm QB is is 6'4-6'5 throwing to receivers under 6 ft. That makes alot of sense. I don't understand what Synder, Gibbs, Cerrato, or whoever was thinking when they decided to get two receivers under 6. If they drafted Campbell knowing eventually he was going to be the "franchise QB" then why didn't they get bigger playmaking receivers??? Yes the drafted Kelly and Thomas this year., but it will be a year or two before they will make a difference. This issue should have been address when the drafted JC.

Putting Brennan in last night still wouldn't change the fact that receivers were running the wrong routes, stop running their routes and the Oline couldn't get the running game going. I think was in the beginning of the third quarter were Campbell threw it deep and Moss stop running is route and the ball almost got intercepted. That would have been a touchdown and may have changed the outcome of the game.
JC did miss a open players and didn't look at all of his "options" on the field. He does need to work on that.

[Redskin]

I see this site still has a few trolls, any Irish sightings lately?

Anyways play calling was terrible it was a bad game period. Why you try to establish the run first against the giants is beyond me. We ran the ball until we had to pass which would more then cover JC's average performance for me.

Defense was terrible until we finally for some unknown reason, decided putting pressure on el, should have done it form the beginning. As for CR i think he is a good CB, even though he got raped on one play, the fact that he has a chance at 3 interceptions a game means he is there (maybe I'm the only one who thinks he is a decent corner).

As for throwing to Thrash i bet if the camera panned to the other side of the field moss was triple covered, and lets not act that moss was not wide on the one deep play we did run the O line just had JC scrambling to much to launch a deep ball especially when the whole D is on pass coverage.

Anyways I have not been a fan of ZOrns form the beginning. Also I am no fan of Colt either I say stick with JC untill he starts throwing bad picks like colt will throw and cost us games. Maybe JC develops a little confidence and starts taking more risks that should make a few of you happy.

[21 Forever]

We have the players on both sides of the ball. Our time management on offense is crap. Running on a drive we need a TD, then an onside and atleast a FG to win? come on... time was running out! Second, run, run, run, run....isn't the west coast offense supposed to be lots of quick drop passing to open up the run...bullshit. Don't get me started on the first half defense.

[huntz]

Two words for this offensive display of ineptitude: GOD AWFUL!!!!

[SmootSmack]

What's up with the thread title? How many months are "& months"