Redskins Offense: What's the Problem?

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I'm just not prepared to say Kelly, Thomas, and Davis are done. To write off an NFL receiver after half of their rookie season is not fair. We essentially spent a high first round pick on these three guys. If we don't give them a chance to develop, we deserve to lose.

As for the offense in general, I guarantee our offense will be more dynamic, unpredictable and effective if we start attempting to go deep. I'll take few sacks for a few 20+ yard throws any Sunday.

Thank you Sheriff. Thank you.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Thank you Sheriff. Thank you.

We got sacked 3 times yesterday and we got only one pass over 20 yards.
So in a sense, Sheriff got half of what he wanted in this little trade-off he talked about.

With this line, we're getting the sacked all right. But like I keep saying, the receivers don't have time to get downfield for those long passes.

[RMSkins]

I had to go with playcalling. Now I know our pass protection has been horrible and it's easy to blame the o-line, but Zorn needs to come up with different schemes/playcalling to effectively compensate for our weaknesses. Let's face it the good coaches come up with ways to make up for their weaknesses and that's what Zorn and the offensive staff need to do.

[djnemo65]

This one's easy. Our line is not giving Campbell the time that it did earlier in the season. They looked completely outclassed for the majority of that game. It's easy to criticize the playcalling, but it's pretty difficult to run much more than a conservative look when your QB is consistently under pressure. I don't think you can blame this on Portis's injury either. We have serious issues in both run and pass blocking and, unless they are addressed somehow, this could be a lost season.

[redskinsgirl]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

This one's easy. Our line is not giving Campbell the time that it did earlier in the season. They looked completely outclassed for the majority of that game. It's easy to criticize the playcalling, but it's pretty difficult to run much more than a conservative look when your QB is consistently under pressure. I don't think you can blame this on Portis's injury either. We have serious issues in both run and pass blocking and, unless they are addressed somehow, this could be a lost season.

I agree.

[Zorny]

Zorn was right. This is the time in the season when the good teams start to separate themselves.

[FRPLG]

Our line is awful. Just is. We cannot pass protect at all. It is hard to throw the ball downfield if JC is getting pressured constantly. If we can't throw downfield they can stack the line which kills our running game. Rinse repeat. It is time our FO started understanding the value of building through our lines. We continue to roll the dice each year with our lines and it is biting us in the ass pretty good right now. Too old too slow and not nearly good enough.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Our line is awful. Just is. We cannot pass protect at all. It is hard to throw the ball downfield if JC is getting pressured constantly. If we can't throw downfield they can stack the line which kills our running game. Rinse repeat. It is time our FO started understanding the value of building through our lines. We continue to roll the dice each year with our lines and it is biting us in the ass pretty good right now. Too old too slow and not nearly good enough.

I've been saying this for years - consistently great teams are built from the inside-out, concentrating on superiority in the trenches. New England spent 1st round picks on Richard Seymour, Ty Warren, Vince Wilfork, and Logan Mankins. Todd Light was a 2nd rounder. The Gibbs 1.0 teams included great drafting and development of linemen. Snyder/Cerrato need to get back to that mentality.

[skinsnut]

This is a combination of line play and play calling.
If you noticed in the first month the line was playing better when the defenses didn't know what to expect because Zorn was new.
Well since then, Zorn continues to call the same exact plays regardless of opponent, thinking we can simply execute.
There were no adjustments for the Pitt defense with misdirection, screens, draws...etc
There were no adjustments for the Dallas weakness...deep passes in the secondary.

Bottom line is Zorn hasn't made any playcalling adjustments...certainly not at halftime.
And this one he had 2 weeks to plan.
It is entirely possible that this head coaching thing is taking so much of his time that he cannot dedicate to put in new plays and adjust offensive play calling as well as he should.

The lines play becomes easier if the defense is either off balance or if there is a lot of smash mouth running (since our lines strength is run blocking)
Right now, neither is going on.....how hard is it to predict a slant on 3rd and 3 anyways?

I am also getting a bit concerned on Zorn's ability to "inspire" the team for big games.
The defense seems "ok" but they dont have a killer instinct.
The offense needs a major adjustment, it has for weeks....if Pitt and Dallas after a bye doesn't result in an adjustment....I don't know what will.
Get ready for some more vanilla offense.

[hail_2_da_skins]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

This is a combination of line play and play calling.
If you noticed in the first month the line was playing better when the defenses didn't know what to expect because Zorn was new.
Well since then, Zorn continues to call the same exact plays regardless of opponent, thinking we can simply execute.
There were no adjustments for the Pitt defense with misdirection, screens, draws...etc
There were no adjustments for the Dallas weakness...deep passes in the secondary.

Bottom line is Zorn hasn't made any playcalling adjustments...certainly not at halftime.
And this one he had 2 weeks to plan.
It is entirely possible that this head coaching thing is taking so much of his time that he cannot dedicate to put in new plays and adjust offensive play calling as well as he should.

The lines play becomes easier if the defense is either off balance or if there is a lot of smash mouth running (since our lines strength is run blocking)
Right now, neither is going on.....how hard is it to predict a slant on 3rd and 3 anyways?

I am also getting a bit concerned on Zorn's ability to "inspire" the team for big games.
The defense seems "ok" but they dont have a killer instinct.
The offense needs a major adjustment, it has for weeks....if Pitt and Dallas after a bye doesn't result in an adjustment....I don't know what will.
Get ready for some more vanilla offense.

I've read all the posts and it seems to me that the problems scoring is all of the above. I like SKINSNUT post the best. I feel Zorn is being over matched and out coached. It seems the offense has not adjusted to our opponents. It's not happening at half time and it's not happening in the initial gameplan. The Skins seem to run the same plays irregardless of the opponent and their strategies. Take for instance this last game against the Cowboys, the Cowboy corners were playing up tight trying to take away the wide receiver hitches, screens and slants, but the Redskins continued to attempt these type of plays the whole game. ADJUST. Fake the slant route, when the cornerback commits, run the go route. It's call the SLUGO (Slant and Go). Didn't see it. The offense looks very predictable. The book is out on Jim Zorn and he is not re-writing it.

[mheisig]

Seems pretty clear to me that it's the offensive line, specifically in pass protection. The run blocking is pretty damn good or we wouldn't have the league's leading rusher.

Jason Campbell is just under duress the entire game. I don't think it's cause he's holding on to the ball to long most of the time, there's just no pocket or it disintegrates within a second or so of the snap.

Porous is about the only way to describe our pass protection right now.

[CrazyCanuck]

OFFENSIVE LINE, especially pass protection.

Felt like I was watching that Dallas game when Spurrier was the coach and Ramsey nearly got killed (literally).

[irish]

I think its a lot of things. Teams have figured that Campbell cant beat them deep so they can sell out to stop the run or really rush the passer and force Campbell to beat them and he just cant do that.

[Twilbert07]

Our offense, without Portis at 100 percent, and without a No. 2 receiver, is impotent. Opposing teams now know what to do: Pressure Campbell, period. JC is a good QB, but is not yet at the point where he can beat hard-hitting defenses without a solid running game.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

Our offense, without Portis at 100 percent, and without a No. 2 receiver, is impotent. Opposing teams now know what to do: Pressure Campbell, period. JC is a good QB, but is not yet at the point where he can beat hard-hitting defenses without a solid running game.

I love how people seem to think that Campbell is the only quarterback that has trouble playing against a good pass rush. Ask Tom Brady how easy it is to execute on offense, with constant pressure in his face.