OK... Let the Haynesworth Petition Begin!

[GhettoDogAllStars]

I don't like him. I think he's a dirty player to intentionally stomp on another person's head. Character is paramount, IMO.

[sportscurmudgeon]

If Albert Haynesworth came here and played to his capability, he would be the best DT in the history of the Washington Redskins by a wide margin.

He will be expensive to sign. The Oakland Raiders sort of set the market last year paying Tommie Kelly (their DT) about $13M a year for 4 years. Albert Haynesworth is significantly better than Kelly; the bidding for him will begin north of those numbers.

I'm not sure this is a great draft for DTs - - although I do like Jeff Owens from Georgia.

Here is what I would worry about with Haynesworth - - and it has NOTHING at all to do with his physical skills:

Some folks have thought that he does not play hard all the time and that he "takes time off" during games. That hasn't happened this year - - his "walk year". But what might happen next year with a fat signing bonus (north of $12M?) in his pocket and a roster bonus on hand for next year?

You just never know...

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

If Albert Haynesworth came here and played to his capability, he would be the best DT in the history of the Washington Redskins by a wide margin.

He will be expensive to sign. The Oakland Raiders sort of set the market last year paying Tommie Kelly (their DT) about $13M a year for 4 years. Albert Haynesworth is significantly better than Kelly; the bidding for him will begin north of those numbers.

I'm not sure this is a great draft for DTs - - although I do like Jeff Owens from Georgia.

Here is what I would worry about with Haynesworth - - and it has NOTHING at all to do with his physical skills:

Some folks have thought that he does not play hard all the time and that he "takes time off" during games. That hasn't happened this year - - his "walk year". But what might happen next year with a fat signing bonus (north of $12M?) in his pocket and a roster bonus on hand for next year?

You just never know...

NO..........

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I love what he's done for the Titans this year. I don't like the fact that he waited until his contract was about up to become a dominant force, how old he is, how much money he'll demand and how he has very, very questionable character. The neys have it.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I love what he's done for the Titans this year. I don't like the fact that he waited until his contract was about up to become a dominant force, how old he is, how much money he'll demand and how he has very, very questionable character. The neys have it.

Haynesworth is 27 yrs. old. He's been very productive during the past couple of years. He is in a very good defense, but he is talented. I've only heard of his one incident when he stomped on the Cowpoke, but that's about it. I mean the only big time free agent we got this past season, came from a team that went 1-15 last season and was getting a bit old (Jason Taylor). Haynesworth is a dominant DT in a good team with a dominant defense. I mean if he were to come here and be a bust then well that's just bad luck or our coaching sucks. But this would be a good football move to get a strong DT that can create a good pass rush and disrupt the opponents running play.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Haynesworth is 27 yrs. old. He's been very productive during the past couple of years. He is in a very good defense, but he is talented. I've only heard of his one incident when he stomped on the Cowpoke, but that's about it. I mean the only big time free agent we got this past season, came from a team that went 1-15 last season and was getting a bit old (Jason Taylor). Haynesworth is a dominant DT in a good team with a dominant defense. I mean if he were to come here and be a bust then well that's just bad luck or our coaching sucks. But this would be a good football move to get a strong DT that can create a good pass rush and disrupt the opponents running play.

He will be 28 by the time next season starts. If he was a middle market player (e.g., $5-10M signing bonus), I'd be all for signing the guy. However, I don't think you pay a 28 year old with questionable work habits and character a $20M+ signing bonus. There's WAY too much downside.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

He will be 28 by the time next season starts. If he was a middle market player (e.g., $5-10M signing bonus), I'd be all for signing the guy. However, I don't think you pay a 28 year old with questionable work habits and character a $20M+ signing bonus. There's WAY too much downside.

Yeah, This has Brandon Lloyd written all over it....

Character and work ethics are HUGE red flags.

[GTripp0012]

I would not sign Haynesworth right off the bat. If the economy is affecting lesser-market teams in order to drive down his price to ARE/Carter levels, I think he could be our solution at 3-shade tackle.

There's also the knee risk now that could make him not worth what we pay him. He's been a great player, you just have to let the market develop for him first.

[Daseal]

No thanks. This guy has been in the league for a while now, he'll demand a huge contract, and he alone won't change anything. I'm ready to start shipping some of the older veterans out and working more towards youth. There's a thin line between a veteran savvy team and an old one.

[diehardskin2982]

Anyone who doesn't want this guy is nuts. Immediate impact on the line. He is the best defensive lineman in football right now. I'd pay an arm and a leg to get this guy in a skin's uniform. Even if we kept the same pass rush as this year, with hanesworth anchoring the middle the sack total would got up exponentially

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

Anyone who doesn't want this guy is nuts. Immediate impact on the line. He is the best defensive lineman in football right now. I'd pay an arm and a leg to get this guy in a skin's uniform. Even if we kept the same pass rush as this year, with hanesworth anchoring the middle the sack total would got up exponentially

Anyone who wants this guy is nuts. With the history of FA signings that we have, and players looking at us like the golden goose-get a fat contract then go out and lay an egg; I would keep my arm AND my leg and go get some younger talent, and learn to develop good guys in house.

I keep reading how bad the FO is, because of this bust, or these bad trades, but then free agency appears, and suddenly the best move is grabbing the biggest named player regardless of what the cost. Let's not kid ourselves, if they went and did get Haynesworth, this board would be filled with praise, until the first game he laid an egg, at which point the FO would have been stupid for slamming our salary cap with an expensive and non-producing veteran.

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Anyone who wants this guy is nuts. With the history of FA signings that we have, and players looking at us like the golden goose-get a fat contract then go out and lay an egg; I would keep my arm AND my leg and go get some younger talent, and learn to develop good guys in house.

I keep reading how bad the FO is, because of this bust, or these bad trades, but then free agency appears, and suddenly the best move is grabbing the biggest named player regardless of what the cost. Let's not kid ourselves, if they went and did get Haynesworth, this board would be filled with praise, until the first game he laid an egg, at which point the FO would have been stupid for slamming our salary cap with an expensive and non-producing veteran.

There is no definseive lineman on our roster at his caliber. No one this roster who grow to his talent caliber, He is a franchise caliber talent. That is irrefutable, if it wasn't the case he would not have been on the Titans for so long. You should have a mean streak as a lineman. Most say "he may underachieve" or "he takes plays off" they say that about all Fat players in the NFL. They said the Same about Shaun Rodgers last year and now he looks unstoppable this year.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

Most say "he may underachieve" or "he takes plays off" they say that about all Fat players in the NFL. They said the Same about Shaun Rodgers last year and now he looks unstoppable this year.

People don't say Pat Williams or Jamal Williams underachieve. People say Rogers and Haynesworth underachieve until it is time for them to earn a paycheck.

[DarkKnight]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

Anyone who doesn't want this guy is nuts. Immediate impact on the line. He is the best defensive lineman in football right now. I'd pay an arm and a leg to get this guy in a skin's uniform. Even if we kept the same pass rush as this year, with hanesworth anchoring the middle the sack total would got up exponentially

What he said!

[2BIG2BSKINNY]

I see this guy everynight on the news and he is not interested in staying here! He is a quality hard working big man. He alone could free up the other high price talented DE's to get the numbers we expect them to have. But most on here are right (as usual) too high of a price tag to waste cause we need more help then that...