Looks like Pierce has been a naughty boy this year...

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Good post Coff. I agree. We took him as an undrafted free agent out of Arizona I believe and I was actually impressed with his "mean streak". I like that, to a point, in a linebacker. Gibbs gave him his shot when he let Jeremiah Trotter go and he left the next year. I have since lost respect for him, not just because he left, but because he just basically comes off as a jerk.

This isn't the first time a player has left for "BUSINESS RESONS"... this is their living and they (the players) must do what is best for them.If I'm not mistaken you guys took Griffen from us,right,why is that?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Giantone

This isn't the first time a player has left for "BUSINESS RESONS"... this is their living and they (the players) must do what is best for them.If I'm not mistaken you guys took Griffen from us,right,why is that?

That's not the point. I think you and Curmudgeon are missing the point here. What's annoying about Pierce is here's a guy who is given a chance to play in the NFL by the Redskins when no one else did. Props to him for working hard when given the opportunity and emerging as a top linebacker, enough so that he could go out and make demands on the free agent market. Now, instead of thanking the Redskins for giving him his opportunity, or even just keeping his mouth shut he's spent the past four years bad mouthing the Redskins at nearly every opportunity he gets. I have no problem with people leaving teams for "business reasons" but if it's business, then just keep it business. Pierce makes it personal.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

That's not the point. I think you and Curmudgeon are missing the point here. What's annoying about Pierce is here's a guy who is given a chance to play in the NFL by the Redskins when no one else did. Props to him for working hard when given the opportunity and emerging as a top linebacker, enough so that he could go out and make demands on the free agent market. Now, instead of thanking the Redskins for giving him his opportunity, or even just keeping his mouth shut he's spent the past four years bad mouthing the Redskins at nearly every opportunity he gets. I have no problem with people leaving teams for "business reasons" but if it's business, then just keep it business. Pierce makes it personal.

If I remember it correctly Pierce was openly told by Gibbs that he was a core Redskin. I remember Gibbs saying that and how bad we needed to keep this guy. That was in 04 when Pierce led one of the best defenses in the NFL. So if you're told that by Gibbs and they let you walk how would you feel? All this while we over pay for certain free agents who couldn't play yet we do not pay one of our own who proved it on the field. No question Pierce should've handled it differently but I understand his bitterness. He wanted to stay here.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Giantone

This isn't the first time a player has left for "BUSINESS RESONS"... this is their living and they (the players) must do what is best for them.If I'm not mistaken you guys took Griffen from us,right,why is that?

You're leaving out the main part Giantone. I said he basically comes across as a jerk. He was one of my favorite players until he got a big head and started acting like a prima donna. I feel the same way about him leaving as any other player. If you don't want to play for the Redskins, fine, seeya. But there is no need to badmouth the team after you leave. He wasn't treated badly. And that BS with Kendall in our first game just shows what he has become. Even after the Super Bowl he acted like a moron. "PUT THAT IN YOUR PAPERS! WRITE THAT." Please. Real Classy. There's no need to be upset with us because your team is going in the toilet Giantone. I can promise you we had nothing to do with it.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

You're leaving out the main part Giantone. I said he basically comes across as a jerk. He was one of my favorite players until he got a big head and started acting like a prima donna. I feel the same way about him leaving as any other player. If you don't want to play for the Redskins, fine, seeya. But there is no need to badmouth the team after you leave. He wasn't treated badly. And that BS with Kendall in our first game just shows what he has become. Even after the Super Bowl he acted like a moron. "PUT THAT IN YOUR PAPERS! WRITE THAT." Please. Real Classy. There's no need to be upset with us because your team is going in the toilet Giantone. I can promise you we had nothing to do with it.

Nope I didn't leave anything out,as sportscurmudgeon said........"Too many players leave the Redskins feeling "disrespected" or "not wanted" as compared to folks around the league. Pierce, Coles, Arrington, Bailey, B-Mitch come to mind. Other Redskins who left on less than fully positive terms include Bobby Mitchell - - merely a Hall of Famer who had been with the Skins in one capacity or another for about 40 years.

Where there's smoke, there just may be a fire..."
11-3 and our season is in the toilet...LOL.....dam I hope we're this bad all the time. Fact the Skins are notorious for paying other teams free agents more money then their own and that is what makes them leave.How much is Jason Taylor making yet what has he done for the Skins,does Andre Carter make as much,he's sure as hell played better and more.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Coff

I hate Pierce. After no other team in football thought he was worth squat, the Redskins decided to take a chance on him by signing him to their practice squad, and after years of investing in his development, he turned into a pro-bowl caliber MLB. Then, when the Skins decided not to give him an obnoxiously outrageous contract, he angrily claimed he was being disrespected, then went to a rival and talked sh*t about the Skins to anyone who would listen. After leaving the Skins for more money (which is perfectly acceptable, after all it is a business), he should have been on his knees thanking the Redskins for giving him his career, and harboring no ill will. But instead, he acted like a spoiled crybaby.

That being said, the guy's a 30 year old, millionaire professional athlete. Are we honestly going to waste time with inflated indignancy over a fun time he was having in a strip club? C'mon, that's ridiculous.

When he was drafted and played for the Skins his first 2 years I loved the guy. Then he started hearing how "smart" he was, became a free agent and his head swelled up, moved to NY and his head went from "swollen" to "stupid" and there you have it. It's amazing what money will do to a person's ego. Screw him!!!

I hope his wife takes all his money!!

[Drift Reality]

Originally Posted by Coff

I hate Pierce. After no other team in football thought he was worth squat, the Redskins decided to take a chance on him by signing him to their practice squad, and after years of investing in his development, he turned into a pro-bowl caliber MLB. Then, when the Skins decided not to give him an obnoxiously outrageous contract, he angrily claimed he was being disrespected, then went to a rival and talked sh*t about the Skins to anyone who would listen. After leaving the Skins for more money (which is perfectly acceptable, after all it is a business), he should have been on his knees thanking the Redskins for giving him his career, and harboring no ill will. But instead, he acted like a spoiled crybaby.

That being said, the guy's a 30 year old, millionaire professional athlete. Are we honestly going to waste time with inflated indignancy over a fun time he was having in a strip club? C'mon, that's ridiculous.

Boy, things really change...my impression was that we low-balled Pierce after he had a great season here. I don't think you can blame him for taking a big contract. We should have done a better job securing him before he went on the open market.

He's also a solid player and one of the leaders on that defense (which most would consider to be an elite NFL D).

[DIRTEE]

I thought he'd learned from what happened to Strahan.

[DIRTEE]

This footage should be illegal to post, but he should be mindful of his surroundings. He really f*cked up!!! Pierce should go on VH1's The Pick Up Artist and learn some moves, once he's divorced. What a night!! Get drunk, fool around on your wife, club hopping, friend shoots himself, drive drunk and falsify medical records.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by DIRTEE

This footage should be illegal to post, but he should be mindful of his surroundings. He really f*cked up!!! Pierce should go on VH1's The Pick Up Artist and learn some moves, once he's divorced. What a night!! Get drunk, fool around on your wife, club hopping, friend shoots himself, drive drunk and falsify medical records.

How do you know that he was drunk and on top of that drunk driving. If you read the article it stated the lady drove them to the hospital. If we are going to bash someone atleast stick to facts.

[DIRTEE]

Originally Posted by firstdown

How do you know that he was drunk and on top of that drunk driving. If you read the article it stated the lady drove them to the hospital. If we are going to bash someone atleast stick to facts.

First, I really don't give a sh*t about Pierce. If you read the article it stated they drank two bottles of Patron and they were out partying for a while (at different locations) before Plaxico shot himself. Did the article say she was the designated driver all night? So, he could have drove earlier.

[MTK]

The deals offered were very similar except NY gave him more money up front.

[Luxorreb]

Pierce played well when he was here. He wasn't a star. He wasn't Lavar. Now I watch him play like an overweight Roy Williams. The safety Roy Williams ofcourse. Coverage worthy of Archuleta proportions. Speed like Joe Bugel. He's done.

[dmek25]

i get the point that Pierce doesn't. it is strictly business. you cant cry about loyalty, and then just sign with the highest bidder. sometimes i really think that he wishes he would have stayed

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i get the point that Pierce doesn't. it is strictly business. you cant cry about loyalty, and then just sign with the highest bidder. sometimes i really think that he wishes he would have stayed

If he had ,he would'nt have a super bowl ring.