Matt Cassell: Joke or No Joke

redsk1 · 12-30-2008, 02:22 PM

Since our season is over and we're all probably tired of talking about what's wrong w/ the Skins...

Matt Cassell:

Is he a product of the system in NE or is he this good? I was a non believer up until the last 6-7 games in the season. This guy is mobile, athletic, great arm, and is accurate. Some stats.

63% Comp %
3693 Yards
21 TD's
11 Int's
230 Yards per game
Sacked 47 times
8th in the NFL
1st season starting

Is he the real deal? I think so. One game doesn't make a player but I came away very impressed by the Ariz game especially.

NE could either let him go by FA, put a Franchise tag on him and pay him 14mill (i think) for next season or sign him to a long term deal.

MTK · 12-30-2008, 02:24 PM

I wouldn't hitch my wagon to him just yet. Someone will take the chance though.

BrunellMVP? · 12-30-2008, 02:24 PM

Is New England's QB position the new Denver RB?

backrow · 12-30-2008, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsk1

Matt Cassell=

Matt Schaub II!

birdz4gibbs · 12-30-2008, 02:36 PM

i,ve been impressed all year with him but i think alot of it has to do with what new england already has there and that the system....

potentially another schaub...

tryfuhl · 12-30-2008, 02:38 PM

The guy wants to stay in NE he says, so they may be able to give him a moderate contract and keep him around. Maybe some sort of incentive-based contract to where if he becomes starting QB he gets a new deal.

redsk1 · 12-30-2008, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by backrow

Matt Schaub II!

Schaub wasn't lookin too bad towards the end of the season. Next year could be a break out year for him and the Texans.

You could argue he had a better year than some B&G clad qbs.

SFREDSKIN · 12-30-2008, 03:14 PM

He would be a good fit to a team that is on the cusp, such as the 49ers. If the Favre retires the Jets should consider him, that is NE is willing to let him go.

53Fan · 12-30-2008, 03:15 PM

There is some talk that Brady may have more surgery to remove scar tissue left over from the infection and if so, may miss 2009 also. If Cassell gets tagged and he plays well next year he could pretty much write his own ticket.

724Skinsfan · 12-30-2008, 03:42 PM

I was wondering who this years Derek Anderson was going to be.

Skinny Tee · 12-30-2008, 03:44 PM

I think Brady is a product of NE system.

Brady has all of the natural tools I'll give you that but if you put him on another team I don't think he would have the same record numbers that he's had.

So the same goes for Cassell. He can naturally make the throws but NE's system is enhancing his abilities.

steveo395 · 12-30-2008, 04:15 PM

Cassel is good, but he is basically playing on an all-star team. On the Redskins, he would probably suck.

GMScud · 12-30-2008, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

I think Brady is a product of NE system.

Brady has all of the natural tools I'll give you that but if you put him on another team I don't think he would have the same record numbers that he's had.

So the same goes for Cassell. He can naturally make the throws but NE's system is enhancing his abilities.

NE definitely has an awesome system. Certainly both Brady and Cassell wouldn't look as good on lesser teams (although Tom Brady is a pro-bowler on any team IMO). But they still have to study, learn, lead, and make all the throws.

I think it helped that Cassell was learning from Brady for a few seasons before taking the field, and also has an unreal coaching staff around him. That shouldn't diminish his accomplishments, however it should somewhat temper expectations if he lands on a team with a god awful offense.

GTripp0012 · 12-30-2008, 05:16 PM

Cassel's turnaround and development within the offense is a great story, and some of that is real, legitimate improvement, but lets not forget that in the first third of the season that Cassel was SO bad that he basically cost them a playoff spot.

Overall, you balance the good with the bad, and you are looking at a slightly above average year in one of the most fertile offensive environments of all time.

Assuming that he doesn't get in as an alternate this year, I'd be willing to go out on a (fairly sturdy) limb and say that Matt Cassel will NEVER make a pro bowl.

GTripp0012 · 12-30-2008, 05:20 PM

The difference between Schaub and Cassel, far as we know it, is that Schaub was a pretty effective college QB. Cassel, he got a pretty solid education.

12-30-2008, 02:22 PM	#1
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Matt Cassell: Joke or No Joke Since our season is over and we're all probably tired of talking about what's wrong w/ the Skins... Matt Cassell: Is he a product of the system in NE or is he this good? I was a non believer up until the last 6-7 games in the season. This guy is mobile, athletic, great arm, and is accurate. Some stats. 63% Comp % 3693 Yards 21 TD's 11 Int's 230 Yards per game Sacked 47 times 8th in the NFL 1st season starting Is he the real deal? I think so. One game doesn't make a player but I came away very impressed by the Ariz game especially. NE could either let him go by FA, put a Franchise tag on him and pay him 14mill (i think) for next season or sign him to a long term deal.

12-30-2008, 02:24 PM	#2
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Re: Matt Cassell: Joke or No Joke I wouldn't hitch my wagon to him just yet. Someone will take the chance though. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-30-2008, 02:24 PM	#3
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12-30-2008, 02:36 PM	#5
birdz4gibbs Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 370	Re: Matt Cassell: Joke or No Joke i,ve been impressed all year with him but i think alot of it has to do with what new england already has there and that the system.... potentially another schaub... __________________ **go skins*****

12-30-2008, 02:38 PM	#6
tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 41 Posts: 12,514	Re: Matt Cassell: Joke or No Joke The guy wants to stay in NE he says, so they may be able to give him a moderate contract and keep him around. Maybe some sort of incentive-based contract to where if he becomes starting QB he gets a new deal.

12-30-2008, 03:14 PM	#8
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Matt Cassell: Joke or No Joke He would be a good fit to a team that is on the cusp, such as the 49ers. If the Favre retires the Jets should consider him, that is NE is willing to let him go. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

12-30-2008, 03:15 PM	#9
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Matt Cassell: Joke or No Joke There is some talk that Brady may have more surgery to remove scar tissue left over from the infection and if so, may miss 2009 also. If Cassell gets tagged and he plays well next year he could pretty much write his own ticket. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

12-30-2008, 03:42 PM	#10
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: Matt Cassell: Joke or No Joke I was wondering who this years Derek Anderson was going to be. __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

12-30-2008, 03:44 PM	#11
Skinny Tee The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Redskins Nation Posts: 1,715	Re: Matt Cassell: Joke or No Joke I think Brady is a product of NE system. Brady has all of the natural tools I'll give you that but if you put him on another team I don't think he would have the same record numbers that he's had. So the same goes for Cassell. He can naturally make the throws but NE's system is enhancing his abilities. __________________ Redskinsly, _________Skinny Tee_________

12-30-2008, 04:15 PM	#12
steveo395 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,674	Re: Matt Cassell: Joke or No Joke Cassel is good, but he is basically playing on an all-star team. On the Redskins, he would probably suck. __________________

12-30-2008, 05:16 PM	#14
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Re: Matt Cassell: Joke or No Joke Cassel's turnaround and development within the offense is a great story, and some of that is real, legitimate improvement, but lets not forget that in the first third of the season that Cassel was SO bad that he basically cost them a playoff spot. Overall, you balance the good with the bad, and you are looking at a slightly above average year in one of the most fertile offensive environments of all time. Assuming that he doesn't get in as an alternate this year, I'd be willing to go out on a (fairly sturdy) limb and say that Matt Cassel will NEVER make a pro bowl. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

12-30-2008, 05:20 PM	#15
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Re: Matt Cassell: Joke or No Joke The difference between Schaub and Cassel, far as we know it, is that Schaub was a pretty effective college QB. Cassel, he got a pretty solid education. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

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