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[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Given our shitty history of mismanaging draft picks, I don't want any player who has been franchised. Giving up 2 1st round picks is too much, even if it fills a need with a very good player. We need to get younger, not ship away picks - even if it is for a stud.

I believe Shane Lechler already has or will be franchised by the Raiders, meaning there's no way in hell he plays anywhere but Oakland next year. No one will give up 2 1st rounders for a punter. Now, if they franchise Asomugha again, then I'm all for pursuing Lechler.

I'm not going to make my case for any one individual, rather for a position. I think we need to draft the best tackle available at 13, or trade down for extra picks and still take the best tackle available with our 1st selection. We've got to have one of the oldest (and most brittle) O-lines in the game. Priority number 1 is build the trenches IMO.

I'm not sure on the franchise tag, but the shimmy one Lechler is that he doesn't want to play for Oakland having been punched in the face by one of his DTs. I think we should actively pursue him along with Shane Mathews from The Bengals if he can be had.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I'm not sure on the franchise tag, but the shimmy one Lechler is that he doesn't want to play for Oakland having been punched in the face by one of his DTs. I think we should actively pursue him along with Shane Mathews from The Bengals if he can be had.

According to SmootSmack, Asomugha is almost certainly getting franchised again by Oakland. I heard a rumor a few weeks ago that it may be Lechler getting the tag, but I guess not. If that's the case, I say make a big push for him.

And, um... Shane Matthews? Did you have a brain fart and mean to say Stacy Andrews? I'm pretty sure we already tried the Shane Matthews experiment.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by GMScud

According to SmootSmack, Asomugha is almost certainly getting franchised again by Oakland. I heard a rumor a few weeks ago that it may be Lechler getting the tag, but I guess not. If that's the case, I say make a big push for him.

And, um... Shane Matthews? Did you have a brain fart and mean to say Stacy Andrews? I'm pretty sure we already tried the Shane Matthews experiment.

I meant Shayne Graham the kicker.

[53Fan]

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[SmootSmack]

I think the Patriots, Giants, Jets, and one other team I'm forgetting could be the biggest suitors for Dansby. This isn't including the Cardinals themselves of course, who have the advantage right now.

Raiders, barring some last minute change of heart, are going to franchise Nnamdi

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think the Patriots, Giants, Jets, and one other team I'm forgetting could be the biggest suitors for Dansby. This isn't including the Cardinals themselves of course, who have the advantage right now.

Raiders, barring some last minute change of heart, are going to franchise Nnamdi

SS,

Do you think AZ is going to use the tag on Dansby?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

SS,

Do you think AZ is going to use the tag on Dansby?

Probably, but actually it might not even get that far. Apparently contract talks are going pretty well and they may even get a deal signed this week.

No guarantee that Asomugha is going to get franchised but it appears that way.

[44ever]

I say we stick 13 and get the best OT we can

[tryfuhl]

I've fallen to the OL bandwagon, I mean it was always my first choice, but it's grown more clearly. If our CB and LB core is there and mostly healthy for the season (hell we've done this well with mcintosh and washington hurt, springs too) then really our defense has done its job. Our defense has been our strength for awhile.

It's time to step up on the other side of the ball.. we have offensive weapons and it's time to give them the opportunity to have some protection.

Who? I don't know.. you could go all out on a Jordan Gross, or you could draft a guy and pay him less and hope he's the next Jordan Gross.. or at least a damn solid guy.

Right now I'm leaning towards draft and definitely don't watch enough college ball to pick.

[over the mountain]

Shane Lechler. he's not a sexy addition but given what boldin, haynesworth, dansbry would require money wise i would go with him to provide the biggest improvement for the money.

i remember watching the giants alot the second half of their Sb season and to me the biggest impact player was feagles downing punts inside the 5 constantly.

obviously punter is a need. has been for a long time. plack IMO won us the eagles game this year but he just isnt nearly as good as lech who can dead a ball and boom em.

go skins!!

[SkinzzFan]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

Shane Lechler. he's not a sexy addition but given what boldin, haynesworth, dansbry would require money wise i would go with him to provide the biggest improvement for the money.

i remember watching the giants alot the second half of their Sb season and to me the biggest impact player was feagles downing punts inside the 5 constantly.

obviously punter is a need. has been for a long time. plack IMO won us the eagles game this year but he just isnt nearly as good as lech who can dead a ball and boom em.

go skins!!

I like it. It would be a much needed addition. Improving field position is always overlooked. Good Call.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

Shane Lechler. he's not a sexy addition but given what boldin, haynesworth, dansbry would require money wise i would go with him to provide the biggest improvement for the money.

i remember watching the giants alot the second half of their Sb season and to me the biggest impact player was feagles downing punts inside the 5 constantly.

obviously punter is a need. has been for a long time. plack IMO won us the eagles game this year but he just isnt nearly as good as lech who can dead a ball and boom em.

go skins!!

Youre exacly right OTM. Theres no doubt Plack won us that game in Philly. Field position is half the battle. Thats another reason to get a great punter and return guy.

[bertoskins2]

for me drafting a solid OL will do = Mr. Mack

[SBXVII]

There is alot of questions I would have in regards to our OL. Since Jansen has lost a step can he be moved to Guard and be effective? solidifying our G position. Can Heyer be taught how to run block better since he's good at pass blocking? Will Reinhart step up or will Buges work with him all off season on his technique so he will be used next year? I have no doubt that if we pick up a FA OL he will start but what happens if we pick up one in the draft? Would the coach's be willing to start a rookie if there are no injuries?

Who we have now: 14 players on OL.

Chris Samuels OT
Randy Thomas OG
Casey Rabach OL
John Jansen OT
Pete Kendall OL
Jason Fabini OL
Stephen Heyer OL
Chad Rinehart OL
Will Montgomery OL
D'Anthony Batiste OL
Devin Clark OL
Isaiah Ross OL
Rueben Riley OL
Justin Geisinger OG

Can any of these new guys step up and help out the team? I count 6 new guys including Rinehart. Perhaps they are simply camp fodder but if we brought them in hoping they would challenge the older guys then I would think maybe they have some skills Buges can work with.

[Eknox]

Albert Haynesworth...O-line destroyer, will help secondary by collapsing the pocket in the middle , which would allow db's to be more aggressive...