Griffin Restructuring Nearly Done

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Hey Schneed, in your overall cap analysis (and you might have done this already) did you factor in the LTBE amount?

I read major incentives in this contract from this question. Something along the lines of if he wins an defensive MVP or similar?

[Nflnick11]

I want D hall so if this is for him then great

[53Fan]

We're rolling now. A shopping spree should be coming soon.

[GTripp0012]

I should point out: it will either be uncapped, or we will have a whole new set of rules in 2010 and likely a lot more cap freedom to work with anyway. No matter what, 2009 is the tough crunch year we've been talking about for a while. We'll have the room to extend Rogers and Campbell at this time next year, which we don't right now.

[53Fan]

Thanks. You are the man GTripp.

[That Guy]

6years/96mill (5 years proration) 30mill SB with the 30% rule = 11.2mill in his first year.

right now marcus got us under and his money will pay our rookies.

we can save 8.5 on taylor and 6 on springs (2.3mill on rabach/daniels). if we're restructuring griffin though (who could be cut to save 4mill) that makes signing hall a lot less likely.

the problem is, we can't resign rogers/campbell, the cut guys will save you 460k less than stated (due to a vet min player replacing their spot) and we have UFAs and other needs too (montgomery, golston, kendall, fabini - OL (x3), OLB/LB depth, DE, CB).

bottom line is if we were 3mill under after marcus was fired (and assuming that's all we need for the rookies), we have about 15.5 to play with, and AH will take up 11mill minimum at the current numbers... if they sign him to 6year/80mill with incentives, then it could cost more or less this year, depending on the incentive type and how the CBA end of cap rules are written.

but because of the 30% rule (Question 1.7a here) you can't just throw a massively backloaded deal at him and call it good - the league will just trash the paperwork if it doesn't comply. the bonus is 6 mill for the first 5 years on that 6yr/96mill and base salary in 5.2 year 1 and 19.8 year 6. (increasing by 30% of the previous year's total).

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by That Guy

6years/96mill (5 years proration) 30mill SB with the 30% rule = 11.2mill in his first year.

right now marcus got us under and his money will pay our rookies.

we can save 8.5 on taylor and 6 on springs (2.3mill on rabach/daniels). if we're restructuring griffin though (who could be cut to save 4mill) that makes signing hall a lot less likely.

the problem is, we can't resign rogers/campbell, the cut guys will save you 460k less than stated (due to a vet min player replacing their spot) and we have UFAs and other needs too (montgomery, golston, kendall, fabini - OL (x3), OLB/LB depth, DE, CB).

bottom line is if we were 3mill under after marcus was fired (and assuming that's all we need for the rookies), we have about 15.5 to play with, and AH will take up 11mill minimum at the current numbers... if they sign him to 6year/80mill with incentives, then it could cost more or less this year, depending on the incentive type and how the CBA end of cap rules are written.

I don't think that's a problem at all. They are both under contract, and have zero leverage right now. The good news? They are both in contract years. Hopefully (and especially if 2010 is uncapped) they'll both pay lights out and we can give them whatever next offseason.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I don't think that's a problem at all. They are both under contract, and have zero leverage right now. The good news? They are both in contract years. Hopefully (and especially if 2010 is uncapped) they'll both pay lights out and we can give them whatever next offseason.

right, if the cap gets scrapped, it's less than not a big deal. If the new CBA includes more player money, not a big deal. but it'd suck to skip the OL/LB/resigning needs this year entirely to find ourselves stuck in the same position next year signing rogers/campbell and spending another year without an OL.

that's more likely NOT to be the case, but it is possible the new CBA ends up with union concessions and a n economic excuse for a marginally low cap increase too.

right now it looks like snyder is going to throw nukes if he has to to get the cap killed though.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Apparently, after cutting Washington and restructuring ARE, CArter, Samuels, and Griffin, we are now 6M under the cap.

If we cut Springs and Taylor, that would put us about 22M under, if i'm not mistaken. We could probably sign Hall and be 14-16M under. Thats plenty of money to make some other, smaller moves to upgrade our team.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Griffin Restructuring Nearly Done - Redskins Insider

Of course he would ,his job was on the line.Can anyone tell me the last time he played a full year .I like the guy, I wish the Giants hadn't let him go but with age and injury .........you need to up grade the D line.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Of course he would ,his job was on the line.Can anyone tell me the last time he played a full year .I like the guy, I wish the Giants hadn't let him go but with age and injury .........you need to up grade the D line.

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