Grading the 2006 Draft

[T.O.Killa]

I give it an A+. To get three potential starters out of any draft is incredible. To get them out of the fifth and six round is amazing. Look at Pittsburgs drafts and they average two players kept starting per draft over five years.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

With the draft around the corner, and no major news likely soon, I thought we could discuss the few draft classes that, following the 2-3 yr development rule, that we ought to be able to grade out now.
Here is our draft from the 2006 class .

# Year Rd Overall Player Pos
1 2006 2 35 Rocky McIntosh LB
2 2006 5 153 Anthony Montgomery NT
3 2006 6 173 Reed Doughty DB
4 2006 6 196 Kedric Golston DT
5 2006 7 230 Kili Lefotu G
6 2006 7 250 Kevin Simon LB

I think I would give it a B+, or A-, given that we had only 1 first day pick, it looks like we got 3 solid players, McIntosh, Montgomery, and Golston, and 1 mid grade in Reed Doughty. I remember Lefotu, but nothing about Simon. What does every one else think?

If that draft was so great why did we need to sign a major free agent in Haynesworth to provide support in the middle?

This draft was subpar just based on the lack of top round picks. I don't think that Monty and Golston could make the roster of some of leagues top defenses.

Scouts knew that Rocky had that bad degenerative condition in his knees. We still picked him any way. His career should be taking off right now but he's being held back by nagging injuries.

Not that great of a draft. The only draft I'll like is one where we have all of our own picks.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

If that draft was so great why did we need to sign a major free agent in Haynesworth to provide support in the middle?

This draft was subpar just based on the lack of top round picks. I don't think that Monty and Golston could make the roster of some of leagues top defenses.

Scouts knew that Rocky had that bad degenerative condition in his knees. We still picked him any way. His career should be taking off right now but he's being held back by nagging injuries.

Not that great of a draft. The only draft I'll like is one where we have all of our own picks.

We are one of the leagues top defenses. We have a maniac owner that will do anything to win. We went after the best DT in football, he would start on any team in the league. If I am wrong, name the team.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

We are one of the leagues top defenses. We have a maniac owner that will do anything to win. We went after the best DT in football, he would start on any team in the league. If I am wrong, name the team.

Yeah Haynesworth can start on any team.

I was saying that Montgomery and Golston probably wouldn't be able to crack the roster on some of the NFL's top defenses.

I am aware that we had a top ten defense but that didn't translate to wins like it did for the other nine teams.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Yeah Haynesworth can start on any team.

I was saying that Montgomery and Golston probably wouldn't be able to crack the roster on some of the NFL's top defenses.

I am aware that we had a top ten defense but that didn't translate to wins like it did for the other nine teams.

I can't think of any other team in the league where neither Monty or Golston could at least win a starting job out of camp. Minnesota, probably, but even they could definately use the youth.

Jacksonville 2003-2007 could have probably done without them, but there's no 4-3 defense in the league today that has two guys who you could say would definately start over Monty and Golston. They might not even make the Giants roster, but realistically, either could win a starting job in camp.

[CRedskinsRule]

Here are the drafts from the rest of the division for 2006

Originally Posted by Profootball Reference

DALLAS 2006
1 2006 1 18 Bobby Carpenter LB DAL
2 2006 2 53 Anthony Fasano TE DAL
3 2006 3 92 Jason Hatcher DE DAL
4 2006 4 125 Skyler Green WR DAL
5 2006 5 138 Pat Watkins DB DAL
6 2006 6 182 Montavious Stanley DT DAL
7 2006 7 211 Pat McQuistan T DAL
8 2006 7 224 E.J. Whitley C DAL

NEW YORK GIANTS 2006

1 2006 1 32 Mathias Kiwanuka DE
2 2006 2 44 Sinorice Moss WR
3 2006 3 96 Gerris Wilkinson LB
4 2006 4 124 Barry Cofield DT
5 2006 4 129 Guy Whimper DE
6 2006 5 158 Charlie Peprah DB
7 2006 7 232 Gerrick McPhearson DB

PHILADELPHIA 2006

1 2006 1 14 Brodrick Bunkley DT
2 2006 2 39 Winston Justice T PHI
3 2006 3 71 Chris Gocong DE PHI
4 2006 4 99 Max Jean-Gilles G PHI
5 2006 4 109 Jason Avant WR PHI
6 2006 5 147 Jeremy Bloom DB PHI
7 2006 5 168 Omar Gaither LB PHI
8 2006 6 204 LaJuan Ramsey DT PHI

edit: I put this up to show that having all your picks isn't the only criteria of being a great draft, the goal is to have players who make your team and are used for gameday.

[53Fan]

Taking into consideration what picks we had, I'd give it a B, and if Monty steps up and plays like he's capable of, I'd change that to an A.

[GTripp0012]

What a terrible waste of a draft for the whole division.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

What a terrible waste of a draft for the whole division.

Seriously. Especially for the Cowboys. I mean, Fasano turned into a very good player... on another team. Barbie Carpenter and the rest of that draft class were piss poor.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

What a terrible waste of a draft for the whole division.

All in all, it was kind of pathetic.

[GTripp0012]

The division was 2/7 in first two round picks, three if you count Fasano, but I can't because the Cowboys never seriously tried to use him. If you add third round picks, that's 3, maybe four out of ten.

Just pick out of a hat next time. You'll hit like 50%.

[That Guy]

taylor/cooley is an A++++++++++++.

2006 we moved up to take a LB (cause teams had a run on them) with a bad knee that has spent a lot of time not playing. we got a decent teamer and 2 DTs for depth (they're great as a #3 and #4). second day would get an A for getting late picks that actually play on gameday (for cheap), but day one is a D unless rocky really shows up healthy sometime soon.

[jamf]

Why should we consider draft position when we rate the players? We have to field the best team possible regardless of draft position. We gave away our draft picks so we have to live with the lack of quality we drafted.

I give the Draft a D+
We did not add what you need to add every year to build/maintain a solid team.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by jamf

Why should we consider draft position when we rate the players? We have to field the best team possible regardless of draft position. We gave away our draft picks so we have to live with the lack of quality we drafted.

I give the Draft a D+
We did not add what you need to add every year to build/maintain a solid team.

Ok, but using your logic that draft position doesn't count, only production I don't understand how you arrive at a D+. Out of 6 players, we added 4 who have seen considerable playing time. That is a solid hit to miss ratio. And we added 2 DL players, 1 LB that all contributed in a way that gave us a top 5 D last year. And Doughty would probably have seen significant ST playing time, barring his injury.

So my questions are:

What type of production would it take to get an average grade from you?

Do you say 6 pro-bowlers out of 6 picks is an A+?

Or that an average draft should have 3 pro-bowlers out of 6 picks?

my answers, taking draft position out of the mix, are:

-an average draft class of 6 picks, after 2years in the league, should result in 1 starter, and 2-3 backups, with significant ST play.

- i say that 6 out of 6 probowlers (not fan vote but real ProBowl quality), is unrealistic and would indicate that the GM was using jedi mind control tactics

- i think if after two years you have 1 probowler(real not fan) then your draft could be no less than an A. hence the 2004 class with 2 clear PB players, has to be considered one of our top drafts of the last several years, even considering we only had 4 total picks.

[jamf]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Ok, but using your logic that draft position doesn't count, only production I don't understand how you arrive at a D+. Out of 6 players, we added 4 who have seen considerable playing time. That is a solid hit to miss ratio. And we added 2 DL players, 1 LB that all contributed in a way that gave us a top 5 D last year. And Doughty would probably have seen significant ST playing time, barring his injury.

So my questions are:

What type of production would it take to get an average grade from you?

Do you say 6 pro-bowlers out of 6 picks is an A+?

Or that an average draft should have 3 pro-bowlers out of 6 picks?

Good Questions!
It was a tough choice between a C and D+. If doughty was a better special teams player I would've rated the draft a C.

Average grade: First round pick is a solid player that is one of the better players at his position, Not a probowler but a solid player. second pick is a solid player that could start for most teams. 3rd round pick is a solid player that fits into your scheme. Maybe not a starter on all teams but has a role on your team.
The second day picks are hit or miss. You would like to add depth and special teams players with 2nd day picks.
To me that gets an average grade.

If any of the players make the probowl, I would bump the grade to a 'B'. If a second day player makes the probowl, I would make it an instant 'A'. You got quality with your first day picks but added a great pick with the second day choices.

3 Probowlers no matter how many ppicks is a great draft. A+
6 Probowl players is not realistic.

The 2004 Taylor Cooley draft was a 'A+'.
I would even rank the Landry draft as a C+ just because we got one probowl quality player and not much else.