Mark Sanchez at 13th?

[GridIron26]

Good article: Don't believe the hype ... it could just be a smokescreen

If Stafford was to drop down past #1, this would increase our chances to draft Sanchez (unless some teams value Sanchez higher than Stafford)..

But like the article said, this might be just a smokescreen..

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

Good article: Don't believe the hype ... it could just be a smokescreen

If Stafford was to drop down past #1, this would increase our chances to draft Sanchez (unless some teams value Sanchez higher than Stafford)..

But like the article said, this might be just a smokescreen..

Thanks, that is a fine article. I usually don't like Pat Kirwan but that was well done.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

Good article: Don't believe the hype ... it could just be a smokescreen

If Stafford was to drop down past #1, this would increase our chances to draft Sanchez (unless some teams value Sanchez higher than Stafford)..

But like the article said, this might be just a smokescreen..

Nice link GridIron26. I was convinced at the beginning of this Sanchez talk that it was all a smokescreen because it made absolutely no sense to me to use our first pick on a QB with JC entering his 2nd year in the WCO. Plus our other obvious needs. Unfortunately because of the past behavior of our owner, the more this goes on the less convinced I am. My hope would be that Danny has learned how to play the game and all this was just posturing for better trade value or a better choice for our 1rst round pick. If this turns out to be the case, I would say Snyder has truly learned how to use his reputation to his advantage and would have to give him props for a job well done. For my own sanity I'm going to take the same road as Lotus and just believe this to be a smokescreen to help me get through until Saturday.

[mrreddman]

great post GOAT...that's real talk..

[Swarley]

I'm with you in thinking (hoping?) this is all just a smokescreen. For all we know this could have all started back with Cutler

... yes I'm that optimistic

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by GreekSkin

I'm with you in thinking (hoping?) this is all just a smokescreen. For all we know this could have all started back with Cutler

... yes I'm that optimistic

Could be. You know, no one outside of the respective front offices knows what we offered for Cutler. We could have offered a loaf of bread. But one speculative news report said that we offered the farm and then that report got reprinted over and over and over...Like the Nazi Goering said, a lie told often enough becomes the truth.

In truth we may never have been serious about Cutler, we may have just been playing with everyone else. If so, it worked.

[gw0103]

why in the hell are looking at Sanchez????? JC, under Zorn's watch and in
one set offense for a while, will do fine as long as He's not on his ass... So
draft OL and DL and bring back Marcus for 1 or 2 more years.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

lotus i think you are remembering incorrectly - it was devin thomas who said he was surprised we drafted him because we had zero contact with him before the draft

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

lotus i think you are remembering incorrectly - it was devin thomas who said he was surprised we drafted him because we had zero contact with him before the draft

That sounds more plausible, I actually thought it was Fred Davis though

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

lotus i think you are remembering incorrectly - it was devin thomas who said he was surprised we drafted him because we had zero contact with him before the draft

BHA, that could be. My memory could be failing me in terms of who it was. I'll trust you that it was Thomas.

My point remains unchanged, however. Whether it was Thomas or Kelly, we successfully ignored a guy we really liked. And we have not been "ignoring" Sanchez.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Lotus

BHA, that could be. My memory could be failing me in terms of who it was. I'll trust you that it was Thomas.

My point remains unchanged, however. Whether it was Thomas or Kelly, we successfully ignored a guy we really liked. And we have not been "ignoring" Sanchez.

Zorn, Snyder, Cerrato, and Campbell flew out to wherever the heck Kelly was and Campbell threw him balls. The skins made no secret about the fact they wanted Kelly - they just had no intention of taking him in the 1st round. Going into the draft last year, I was pretty confident we'd do our best to draft Kelly and we did. It wasnt a surprise to anyone. Drafting Davis was a shocker, and drafting Kelly [i]after getting Thomas[/i/] was pretty surprising at that point, but the skins were just as outwardly vocal about their love for Kelly as they are with Sanchez now.

If we learned one thing from Cerrato last year its that his philosophy is to:

1) Trade down if possible
2) Take the BPA reguarldless of need (drafting TE Fred Davis and then drafting Kelly after alraedy landing Thomas).

This year, i beleive Cerrato wants to do the same: Trade down with the goal of selecting a certain player at a position of need he covets without reaching.

Last year, we traded down with the goal of selecting Merling with our 1st 2nd rounder and a Notre Dame DT with our 2nd, but Miami and Philly nabbed them right before us - leading to the Thomas and Davis picks. Cerrato specifically said that they only selected him because their primary target was gone, he was a receiver they thought theyd have no shot at drafting, but he was the highest rated player remaining on their board and he was still there - unbeleivably - at 34, so drafting him was a "no-brainer."

In 2009, Cerrato is probably interested in trading down in the 1st round, picking up a 2nd rounder, and drafting one of the 3 USC LBs or a 2nd tier OT with the lower 1st round pick and a guy like Brandon Albert with the 2nd round pick we acquired. But who knows, we could fail to get the player we target (like last year) and end up taking something else that doesnt necessarily fill a need.

If its up to Cerrato, i think we'll trade down with someone who wants to jump ahead of other teams take Josh Freeman at 13. Its almost certain that Sanchez will be taken by the 4th pick, and if that happens, teams wanting a QB will get ancy and trade up. Trust me, it will happen. Given that Snyder has showed no confidence in Campbell, teams will legitimately fear we may take Freeman if they dont trade with us. If not, they'll trade with us because they know we want to trade down and they want to jump head of another team who would take Freeman with their pick.

However, all of this could be moot, because its possible the decision isnt up to Cerrato and Snyder will make a trade up to nab Sanchez. We'll find out in about 78 hours.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

This year, i beleive Cerrato wants to do the same: Trade down with the goal of selecting a certain player at a position of need he covets without reaching.

Last year, we traded down with the goal of selecting Merling with our 1st 2nd rounder and a Notre Dame DT with our 2nd, but Miami and Philly nabbed them right before us - leading to the Thomas and Davis picks. Cerrato specifically said that they only selected him because their primary target was gone, he was a receiver they thought theyd have no shot at drafting, but he was the highest rated player remaining on their board and he was still there - unbeleivably - at 34, so drafting him was a "no-brainer."

In 2009, Cerrato is probably interested in trading down in the 1st round, picking up a 2nd rounder, and drafting one of the 3 USC LBs or a 2nd tier OT with the lower 1st round pick and a guy like Brandon Albert with the 2nd round pick we acquired. But who knows, we could fail to get the player we target (like last year) and end up taking something else that doesnt necessarily fill a need.

Hit the nail squarely on the head, I'll have what you're havin'

[Swarley]

Sanchez talks to JLC about his visit with our team, which he seems to have enjoyed quite a bit.

Mark Sanchez Raves About His Redskins Visit

I found this part pretty interesting

Originally Posted by JLC on Redskins Insider

"It was later in our dinner [Friday night] that Mr. Snyder started asking me the tough questions, and he was totally honest and upfront," Sanchez said. "He's proud of the guys they have here, and he thinks the world of Jason Campbell, and that was obvious. He said that if I come in, it's a competition, and nothing will be given to me, and he makes no promises. And that's way I want it. I don't want there to be anything promised or for anyone to be talking bad about players, because then in a few years they might be doing that with me.

It seems this has already been posted and broken down in another thread lol

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GreekSkin

Sanchez talks to JLC about his visit with our team, which he seems to have enjoyed quite a bit.

Mark Sanchez Raves About His Redskins Visit

I found this part pretty interesting



It seems this has already been posted and broken down in another thread lol

At this point why is Snyder even hiding behind Vinny? I swear Snyder has no damn balls. He reminds me of Michael Westbrook. He's thin skinned and doesn't talk to the media cause they rip him. At least Jerry Jones has a set of balls and gives himself the title of GM and he doesn't hide behind a puppet GM. This is so stupid!!!! You think the world of JC yet you're willing to possibly mortgage the future by attempting to trade for Cutler?? Now you're having dinner with a player you're about to give up draft picks to move up and pick? WTF?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

At this point why is Snyder even hiding behind Vinny? I swear Snyder has no damn balls. He reminds me of Michael Westbrook. He's thin skinned and doesn't talk to the media cause they rip him. At least Jerry Jones has a set of balls and gives himself the title of GM and he doesn't hide behind a puppet GM. This is so stupid!!!! You think the world of JC yet you're willing to possibly mortgage the future by attempting to trade for Cutler?? Now you're having dinner with a player you're about to give up draft picks to move up and pick? WTF?

You'd rather Snyder just name himself GM?

And what's the big deal about dinner?