How will you measure success?

[Big Oh]

Campbell needs make quicker reads. Then Zorn will open up the playbook and go down field and the offense won't be so predictable. More points are a MUST! Touchdowns in the Redzone not FG's. 25+ TDs an no more than 15 picks. A QB rating above 86.

Devin and Michael need to be on the field, I need 80 catched from the pair and one of them needs to move into the starting line up.

For the amount of money Al Haynesworth is getting he should be able to get 42 million sacks but since that won't happen I will settle for 9 and some good consistent pressure on the passer.

As far as Hall we just cant have a drop off in pass coverage and he has got to get me some picks, and maybe teach Carlos how to catch.

12-4 would be nice but we are in the NFC East and the Giants even w/out Plaxico Idiot are tough to beat. 10-6 would be a succesfull season and a playoff berth.

[AnimateYYZ]

Originally Posted by Big Oh

Campbell needs make quicker reads. Then Zorn will open up the playbook and go down field and the offense won't be so predictable. More points are a MUST! Touchdowns in the Redzone not FG's. 25+ TDs an no more than 15 picks. A QB rating above 86.

Devin and Michael need to be on the field, I need 80 catched from the pair and one of them needs to move into the starting line up.

For the amount of money Al Haynesworth is getting he should be able to get 42 million sacks but since that won't happen I will settle for 9 and some good consistent pressure on the passer.

As far as Hall we just cant have a drop off in pass coverage and he has got to get me some picks, and maybe teach Carlos how to catch.

12-4 would be nice but we are in the NFC East and the Giants even w/out Plaxico Idiot are tough to beat. 10-6 would be a succesfull season and a playoff berth.

Are you referring to Malcolm Kelly?

And the reason Zorn didn't take more shots wasn't necessarily Jasons ability to make reads, but rather the O lines' inability to pass protect. Usually, on the deep ball, your first read is the high.

[Big Oh]

I agree more protection will lead to more downfield attempts.

[GTripp0012]

It's not like the shots downfield didn't happen, and often, it's that after Week 8, we just never connected on one. Which is pathetic. If Moss is your big play guy, and he has no big plays over three months (Lions defense notwithstanding), he's not good enough for that role.

[AnimateYYZ]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It's not like the shots downfield didn't happen, and often, it's that after Week 8, we just never connected on one. Which is pathetic. If Moss is your big play guy, and he has no big plays over three months (Lions defense notwithstanding), he's not good enough for that role.

No question. It's obvious that WR is one of the weaker positions on the team. I'm still glad we never made that trade for Ocho Cinco, though.

Also, It seems teams would roll coverage to Moss a lot because there was no other deep threat.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It's not like the shots downfield didn't happen, and often, it's that after Week 8, we just never connected on one. Which is pathetic. If Moss is your big play guy, and he has no big plays over three months (Lions defense notwithstanding), he's not good enough for that role.

Moss is not the problem. It's the lack of other wideouts that do not contribute. Moss produces plays out of nothing. He has made mistakes like dropping a few, but I believe most of the time, it's not a lack of skill or effort - it's a lack of focus because he tries too hard.

The more Mosses on the redskins, the better.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It's not like the shots downfield didn't happen, and often, it's that after Week 8, we just never connected on one. Which is pathetic. If Moss is your big play guy, and he has no big plays over three months (Lions defense notwithstanding), he's not good enough for that role.

Moss is a smurf, and he is aging. The rooks need to step it up. Of the all the guys mentioned they will be the most important keys to the teams overall sucess.

[sportscurmudgeon]

BrudLee got it right.

None of the other stats matter even a whit unless the team makes the playoffs.

Over and out...

[SirClintonPortis]

I think that for Campbell statistically, he should have around 20 touchdowns. Many of the past WCO QBs(Favre, McNabb, Cutler) had ~20 TD seasons in their second years. Of course if he gets screwed over by injuries or the drafted pass catchers still not getting it, it wouldn't be surprising to not see those type of numbers. Yardage-wise, a 200-400 yard spike should be sufficient if special teams improves and the defense gets more turnovers. If either Kelly or Thomas get on the field and play with consistency, a 600 yard spike to his yardage stat is not out of the question.
His Yards per attempt needs to break 6.8, preferably 7.0.

[GusFrerotte]

JC- 3000-3500 yards passing 35 TD passes 15-17 INTS and I would be happy for sure

THe young WR's getting more than one grab each game and both netting 400-600 yards in receiving yards for the season.

Haynesworth- For what we have paid him, anything less than the NFL sack leader and a top 10 finish in tackles for loss will be unacceptable.

My expectations are rather high, but if the team is to be a winner a go deep in the playoffs this is what in my mind needs to hapen with regards to individual performances, especially with JC and his young WR's. Our vet WR's, with the exception of Moss, just plain suck.

[RedskinMike]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

JC- 3000-3500 yards passing 35 TD passes 15-17 INTS and I would be happy for sure

THe young WR's getting more than one grab each game and both netting 400-600 yards in receiving yards for the season.

Haynesworth- For what we have paid him, anything less than the NFL sack leader and a top 10 finish in tackles for loss will be unacceptable.

My expectations are rather high, but if the team is to be a winner a go deep in the playoffs this is what in my mind needs to hapen with regards to individual performances, especially with JC and his young WR's. Our vet WR's, with the exception of Moss, just plain suck.

Haynesworth will never be the nfl sack leader that is not what he does.

[AnimateYYZ]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

JC- 3000-3500 yards passing 35 TD passes 15-17 INTS and I would be happy for sure

THe young WR's getting more than one grab each game and both netting 400-600 yards in receiving yards for the season.

I would love to see JC throw for 35 TD's, but we'll probably need to see a lot more than 400-600 yards between Thomas and Kelly in order for that to happen.

Haynesworth- For what we have paid him, anything less than the NFL sack leader and a top 10 finish in tackles for loss will be unacceptable.

My expectations are rather high, but if the team is to be a winner a go deep in the playoffs this is what in my mind needs to hapen with regards to individual performances, especially with JC and his young WR's. Our vet WR's, with the exception of Moss, just plain suck.

Most of what AH will contribute won't show up in the stat columns.

[GusFrerotte]

Yeah I should have put 30 not 35 TDs for JC. Haynesworth's goals were sort of a joke, but we did overpay the dude, so he better give us a shitload of sacks or forced fumbles. I don't care what sport you are in, one man does not garner a $100 million contract. As for the rooks, they both could have say 500 yards receiving with JC having 30 TDs.

[MTK]

AH is not going to lead the league in sacks. To expect that is simply unrealistic.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

AH is not going to lead the league in sacks. To expect that is simply unrealistic.

Especially with the 3-4 guys racking up around 16 a year. 8.5 sacks for a DT is nothing short of amazing. I remember back in my high school days I was an undersized Nose Tackle (very undersized as I was a converted LB) and getting to the QB was a pain in the butt compared to coming off the edge or blitzing from a LB spot.

Blache would never have me in his system because I was always to obcessed with getting to the QB