My Draft Trade Proposal with New England. Feedback Needed!!!

[Nflnick11]

Wouldn't mind this happening, the problem is that NE wouldn't do this..if this happens we could get William Beatty of UConn with the second rounder, and clay Matthews with the other

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by Nflnick11

Wouldn't mine this happening, the problem is that NE wouldn't do this..if this happens we could get William Beatty of UConn with the second rounder, and Clay Matthews with the other

From what I'm hearing Barwin is a good guy to get too. He can play three positions including LB. I think he and Mathews are on the same level. If we could get a low first and a second out of this I'd take Barwin or Mathews and then get Mack with the second. That's a need and upgrade.

With Barwin we can have a DE or LB.

With Mack we can have a C and a G.

Which? Which ever makes our team better.

I wouldn't be against getting a OT that's available either.

Soon we shall all know.

[Nflnick11]

Everyone wants mack, that's all I hear, "let's get mack" "draft mack" the thing is is that the skins don't want him, they didn't go to his pro day, and they haven't invited him here, and they have said that center is one of their least needs...yes I know he can play guard too, but the skins are really in the wants of a OLB DE and OT so believe me if they get a center it'll be In The later rounds..sorry guys no mack start thinking of someone else to draft

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by Nflnick11

Everyone wants mack, that's all I hear, "let's get mack" "draft mack" the thing is is that the skins don't want him, they didn't go to his pro day, and they haven't invited him here, and they have said that center is one of their least needs...yes I know he can play guard too, but the skins are really in the wants of a OLB DE and OT so believe me if they get a center it'll be In The later rounds..sorry guys no mack start thinking of someone else to draft

You ever hear of subterfuge? Nope.

[Nflnick11]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

You ever hear of subterfuge? Nope.

No what's subterfudge?

[AnimateYYZ]

Originally Posted by Nflnick11

No what's subterfudge?

Deception, In other words a "smokescreen".

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Nflnick11

Everyone wants mack, that's all I hear, "let's get mack" "draft mack" the thing is is that the skins don't want him, they didn't go to his pro day, and they haven't invited him here, and they have said that center is one of their least needs...yes I know he can play guard too, but the skins are really in the wants of a OLB DE and OT so believe me if they get a center it'll be In The later rounds..sorry guys no mack start thinking of someone else to draft

I agree. I wonder if AQ Shipley from Penn St will be there in the 5th round...

[Nflnick11]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I agree. I wonder if AQ Shipley from Penn St will be there in the 5th round...

He should be, and I wouldn't mind get him at that value he's big in weight and short in height which I like in a center, and he won the rimington trophy which is given to the nations best center...plus he plays against better DLibes in the big ten than mack does in the PAC 10...don't get me wrong, I like mack, and I think he's the best center in the draft, it's just that at his value and our needs, it would make sense to get an AQ Shipley in the 5th round after getting some other needs before him...mack is a late first/ second rounder

[GusFrerotte]

The idea does makes good sense, but to be honest we need a #13 pick. Giving away first rounders or trading down even 10 spots still might cost us the best T or/and G available for a line that needs rebuilding very badly if we are going to be able to put more points on the board this season and beyond. I wouldn't be surprised if we did use #13 to garner more picks though, but what would be the point. Past the second or third round all you have left is practice squad fodder.

[nyredskinsfan]

..... Past the second or third round all you have left is practice squad fodder.[/QUOTE]

Without going through and reading all the posts to see if anyone has responded to this post of your's, let me remind you of just last years draft...

Copied from Wikepedia

Horton was drafted by the Washington Redskins in the seventh round (249th overall) of the 2008 NFL Draft. He officially signed a three-year, $1.191 million contract with the team on June 12, 2008. The contract included a $36,000 signing bonus.

Making his first NFL start for the Redskins in Week 2 against the Saints, Horton recovered a fumble and recorded two interceptions helping lead the team to a comeback victory. He was named NFC Defensive Player of the Week for his efforts against the Saints. In the week 4 game against the Dallas Cowboys, he recorded his third interception of the season. On October 2, he was named NFL Defensive Rookie of the Month. For week 4 he was named Diet Pepsi NFL Rookie of the Week. As a rookie, he finished third among rookies in interceptions behind the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Aqib Talib and Arizona Cardinals Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie.

Following the 2008 season, he was awarded $342,197 in additional pay from the NFL's performance-based pay system, which gives financial compensation based on a comparison of playing time to salary; this made him the third biggest beneficiary in 2008.[2]

[redskinjim]

we dont have very many picks vinny keeps giving them away like a fool.

[53Fan]

If he lasts that long, Mack will go to the Steelers. There's a reason they've won more SB's than anyone else. They're smart.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

If he lasts that long, Mack will go to the Steelers. There's a reason they've won more SB's than anyone else. They're smart.

Yeah I think it will come down to Mack or Unger @ 32. Most boards i've seen have them taking Mack...

[theJBexperience]

I don't like the idea of the Skins trading down. We saw what happened last year. The further they get away from the top of the first round, the Skins FO really stretches with their picks. Devin Thomas and Fred Davis weren't as much of a stretch where they were selected, but from our third round picks on, they were. Reinhardt and Tryon in particular were picked way higher than they should've been. There was still better talent at their positions. Even when we drafted Campbell, we didn't need to trade up to get him. I don't trust our FO's draft board, and I think it's way off base with most successful FOs. So, I don't trust them trading down to draft more players because they'll probably gun for guys no other teams would draft til later anyways.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by theJBexperience

I don't like the idea of the Skins trading down. We saw what happened last year. The further they get away from the top of the first round, the Skins FO really stretches with their picks. Devin Thomas and Fred Davis weren't as much of a stretch where they were selected, but from our third round picks on, they were. Reinhardt and Tryon in particular were picked way higher than they should've been. There was still better talent at their positions. Even when we drafted Campbell, we didn't need to trade up to get him. I don't trust our FO's draft board, and I think it's way off base with most successful FOs. So, I don't trust them trading down to draft more players because they'll probably gun for guys no other teams would draft til later anyways.

Word...a very good argument for not trading down IMO and that's my take on this year's draft. In fact, I would almost like to see us find a way to trade up from our 3rd, 5th and 6th round picks into the 2nd round. I know that means even fewer picks overall but facing the honestly bizarre draft board Vinny engenders I'd take a 2nd round pick over three in later rounds. Rinehart was truly a flub that should embarrass - kid was set to be a 5th rd pick or later by every expert/mock that year. When we took him so early - probably 60 to 90 spots before anyone else would have i thought "well maybe they have some inside info on this kid and just wanted to ensure they got him." I mean the reality is they just screwed up royally...there wasn't any there, there, as people say. Horton is the lone standout in Vinny's draft expertise and he still has significant improving to do.