National love for Giants, Eagles' drafts out of control?

[Chief PA]

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

Thats the second time you have mentioned that. If fact, most of your 8 posts are dedicated to your dislike of the skins front office. Are you even a skins fan of a person who loves to hate on the redskins? Wait a minute, I know you,..... JLC?

I am a die hard skins fan and am mad as hell at how danny runs (has ruined) this once proud franchise.

[53Fan]

Isn't Philly the ONLY team in the NFC East who HASN"T won a Super Bowl? Not in the last 10 years...Not in the last 20 years.....Not EVER?

[Monksdown]

The draft is a shit throwing contest. And the Cowboys and Redskins didn't have that many big pieces of shit to throw at the wall.

Advantage: NY and Filly

[Stuck in TX]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

A high-impact NFC East draft column - NFC East - ESPN

Usually, I'm not one to publicly harp on what the national media thinks. Admittedly, privately, I can be very critical of poorly constructed opinions. But, I think there's a double standard going on.

Jeremy Maclin was a player both teams were targeting, and the Eagles were able to use information they tracked down about teams, potentially the Giants, trading up to 20 to get Maclin, so they were able to get up to 19.

Here's what I don't understand: either you like the Maclin move if you don't. If you think he was a top ten player, then the Eagles draft looks great. A top ten player and a first round RB on the first day is a great haul indeed -- but then what do you say about the Giants?

If you think Maclin was a top player, then logic dicatates that the Giants lost out at a chance at an elite player at a need position because they weren't willing to give up a third round pick instead of a fourth, essentially, to get up to pick 18 or so. And no matter how you look at it, the Giants ended up missing on the 2nd WR on their board for their 4th or 5th. That's a really big downgrade no matter what position they drafted at. When it's a position with a 40% first round washout rate, that's really, really bad.

And all of that follows from the logic that Maclin is going to be a great player. In reality, I think he was a very overvalued receiver who will be stuck behind much better players in Philly. I have no problem tipping my cap to two teams who appear to have a great haul in the second round, but after you mix up the first round as the Giants, and debatably the Eagles did, your draft doesn't get an A+. Sorry, that's not how it works.

The Redskins were the only team to get an immediate impact player in this draft (well, LeSean McCoy, probably). And I think that's going largely unnoticed because of, well, because of I'm not really sure.

End rant.

Anyone who has been a Redskin's fan for any amount of time has to know this. The Cowboys (for some reason) are "America's Team" and in the eyes of ESPN, can do no wrong. The Giants are harped as the "NY football Giants" and are the historic, vintage team team of the New England area. The Eagles are the team that locals love to hate and are a constant irony to the "City of Brotherly love". Face it, the Redskins are the red-headed (or burgundy-headed if you will) step child of the NFC East. We can do no right. We have a young, rich owner who loves to trade draft picks. There is absolutely nothing we can do right. We probably drafted the best speed DE in the NCAA and because of the trade speculations for Sanchez, our best draft grade has been a C+. We are the epitome of "put up, or shut up" and until we win a super bowl; that's right, super bowl because we have won several playoff games in the past ten years, we are going to be the team that no one will like, and will constantly be the "oh God, what did they do now?" team no matter how many ex-cons the Cowboys sign. The quicker people accept this, the less painful it will be.

[redsk1]

I hate to show love for another organization but please read what the Eagles did in this years draft by trading down. Wow.

Brett Favre, Minnesota Vikings, Philadelphia Eagles, more NFL - Peter King - SI.com

[redsk1]

From the above article...

What Heckert and Reid did, in brief:

• Traded the 85th overall pick (third round) to the Giants for the 91st (third-round) and the 164th (fifth-round) picks.

• Traded the 91st pick to Seattle for the 137th (fifth-round), 213th (seventh-round) and the Seahawks' third-round pick in 2010.

• Traded the fifth-round pick acquired from Seattle plus the 141st pick (fifth-round, acquired from Cleveland) to New England for cornerback Hobbs.

• Traded the fifth-round pick acquired from the Giants to New Orleans for the 222nd pick (seventh-round), plus the Saints' fifth-round pick in 2010.

• Traded the seventh-round pick acquired from New Orleans to Indianapolis for the Colts' sixth-round pick in 2010.

• Used the seventh-round pick acquired from Seattle to pick guard Paul Fanaika.

So they also got a 3rd, 5th, and a 6th rounder next year. Pretty smart thinking imo.

Now if they would have spent a couple $'s every now and again, they would have most likely won a SB by now. I'm glad they don't.

[pick-ups]

Originally Posted by redsk1

From the above article...

What Heckert and Reid did, in brief:

• Traded the 85th overall pick (third round) to the Giants for the 91st (third-round) and the 164th (fifth-round) picks.

• Traded the 91st pick to Seattle for the 137th (fifth-round), 213th (seventh-round) and the Seahawks' third-round pick in 2010.

• Traded the fifth-round pick acquired from Seattle plus the 141st pick (fifth-round, acquired from Cleveland) to New England for cornerback Hobbs.

• Traded the fifth-round pick acquired from the Giants to New Orleans for the 222nd pick (seventh-round), plus the Saints' fifth-round pick in 2010.

• Traded the seventh-round pick acquired from New Orleans to Indianapolis for the Colts' sixth-round pick in 2010.

• Used the seventh-round pick acquired from Seattle to pick guard Paul Fanaika.

So they also got a 3rd, 5th, and a 6th rounder next year. Pretty smart thinking imo.

Now if they would have spent a couple $'s every now and again, they would have most likely won a SB by now. I'm glad they don't.

Not to mention they'll likely recieve a 2nd rd pick from the Jets for Lito(which he should play a lot for them).
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[GTripp0012]

Again, like I mentioned, saying the Eagles got enough in this draft to trade for a lot of picks in next years draft requires the belief that Maclin fills a need and will be a great player. And then, whatever your opinion is of Maclin, grade the Giants fairly based on the fact that they didn't get him.

[53Fan]

Sooooooo..the Iggles are starting to win the offseason now. Is that correct?

[CRedskinsRule]

Yeah, but when they do it their FO is da bomb, when we do it the FO is beyond redemption.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Yeah, but when they do it their FO is da bomb, when we do it the FO is beyond redemption.

How true. Now they can put their offseason trophy next to their Super Bowl Tro..........never mind.

[T.O.Killa]

Hey they can say all they want about them, but I think that we are the most improved team in the NFC East. Yeah, the Eagles did good, They still had very little net gain, except for the reciever that they drafted. Runyan, for Andrews is a net loss although they got younger. Peters for Thomas is maybe a slight gian, and agian got younger. The Giants made thier D-Line better, but they cant get everyone on the field and they were already very strong. We have improved our defense immensley, I also think we have improved our O-line and reciever corps. Our only question will be JC. If he does great our offense will do great. He has all the tools, to work with.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Hey they can say all they want about them, but I think that we are the most improved team in the NFC East. Yeah, the Eagles did good, They still had very little net gain, except for the reciever that they drafted. Runyan, for Andrews is a net loss although they got younger. Peters for Thomas is maybe a slight gian, and agian got younger. The Giants made thier D-Line better, but they cant get everyone on the field and they were already very strong. We have improved our defense immensley, I also think we have improved our O-line and reciever corps. Our only question will be JC. If he does great our offense will do great. He has all the tools, to work with.

The thread was about the Eagles draft which was excellent. They got talent this year and they got some new picks next year. Very, very good.

Now, we could be the most improved w/ the additions of AH, Dock, Orapko. Who knows though. Our Oline isn't exactly getting younger either. It's going to come down to JC and if any of our WR's can make some plays.

[53Fan]

Gosh! Do you think the Iggles will win another Super Bowl?! Oh yeah....nevermind.