Michael Vick in Talks to Become PETA Spokesman

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Atlanta is better off with Matt Ryan for the long run. What happened with Vick was a blessing in disguise.

W/out question they're better off with Matt Ryan.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

W/out question they're better off with Matt Ryan.

I don't understand your position. Vick is a quality qb and a playmaker that should start in the league. But the team that was built for and around him is better off with a second year qb? If he has the talent to be a playmaker, then Atlanta should be his best chance. Everywhere else he is being patched in to overcome another qb's deficiencies. (the Falcons are only 1 year removed from Vick, so they have not changed their player structure that much)

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I don't understand your position. Vick is a quality qb and a playmaker that should start in the league. But the team that was built for and around him is better off with a second year qb? If he has the talent to be a playmaker, then Atlanta should be his best chance. Everywhere else he is being patched in to overcome another qb's deficiencies. (the Falcons are only 1 year removed from Vick, so they have not changed their player structure that much)

atlanta is better suited with a passing qb, they were trying to make vick become more of a passing qb but it was not working. ryan is a great passer, therefor, a better fit for the falcons offense.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

atlanta is better suited with a passing qb, they were trying to make vick become more of a passing qb but it was not working. ryan is a great passer, therefor, a better fit for the falcons offense.

Wow, I would have thought EVERY team is better suited with a passing quarterback, and you imply that Vick could not become a passing qb. Therefore, I would say Vick is not the best suited qb for any offense. Is McNabb NOT a passing qb? It is fine to be a qb that can run, or pressure the D that way, but unless a team wants a qb to handoff every time he has to be a passing qb. Vick never got that, and I doubt playing yardball for the last year or so, would have helped his game any. But then, Minnesota is talking to Favre so, hey, I'll believe anything.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I don't understand your position. Vick is a quality qb and a playmaker that should start in the league. But the team that was built for and around him is better off with a second year qb? If he has the talent to be a playmaker, then Atlanta should be his best chance. Everywhere else he is being patched in to overcome another qb's deficiencies. (the Falcons are only 1 year removed from Vick, so they have not changed their player structure that much)

Atlanta has moved on and gone in a different direction. They've invested in Matt Ryan. And Vick has burned his bridges in Atlanta by lying to the owner. He'll never play there again. But SF might be a place for him. Or maybe Mora will take him back in Seattle to back up Hassleback. He's got Vick's old OC there so we'll see.

[SBXVII]

I liked Vick but always felt he was a 1 man show. I know the team had a lot of talent but it seemed that it either never jelled or something. Rumor was he was not a pocket passer type. So the coach's always found a way to roll him out, similar to the run and shoot. Warren Moon ring a bell? Then someone decided it was time to prove the pundits wrong and try to make him a pocket passer. Sometimes he looked good sometimes he looked like his old self running for his life and making a decent pass in between.

I think that by losing Vick the team actually was forced to work as a team and it showed as they made the play offs with their 1st yr coach and Rookie QB. The team has talent I just don't think they utilized all of it under Vick.

[jsarno]

Vick needs to think about this before he comes back:
Both him and Marcus will be eligible for the hall the same year right now! LOL

[tdSKINS1]

I just don't see why everyone thinks he can't play the QB position. He goes to jail and I guess he loses his QB abilities? Yes he could play RB he could return some kicks, yes he can catch the football. But he plays QB so much better. Thats the only thing that confuses me about a lot of opinions on this.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by tdSKINS1

I just don't see why everyone thinks he can't play the QB position. He goes to jail and I guess he loses his QB abilities? Yes he could play RB he could return some kicks, yes he can catch the football. But he plays QB so much better. Thats the only thing that confuses me about a lot of opinions on this.

Well, considering his QB abilities were worst in the league, or close to worst, why do you think he all of sudden becomes a good qb after being in prison?
Why also do people think that he still has his speed / illusiveness that made people THINK he was a good qb in the first place?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Well, considering his QB abilities were worst in the league, or close to worst, why do you think he all of sudden becomes a good qb after being in prison?
Why also do people think that he still has his speed / illusiveness that made people THINK he was a good qb in the first place?

elusiveness jsarno elusiveness, got you back

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

elusiveness jsarno elusiveness, got you back

LOL...thanks buddy. I certainly have a weakness when it comes to spelling.

[Lotus]

My dog just said that Vick is a bad, bad QB and should have his nose smacked with a rolled up newspaper.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by jsarno

LOL...thanks buddy. I certainly have a weakness when it comes to spelling.

no problem i look out for everyone

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by tdSKINS1

I just don't see why everyone thinks he can't play the QB position. He goes to jail and I guess he loses his QB abilities? Yes he could play RB he could return some kicks, yes he can catch the football. But he plays QB so much better. Thats the only thing that confuses me about a lot of opinions on this.

Yes. His greatest ability was his speed. People get slower as they get older and he's lost 2 years while in jail.

Besides, he could not have been practicing and working out at a high level. The NFL is very competitive, it requires year-round work, and no one can expect to take 2 years off and still be at the same level. And, sadly for him, his level in the passing game was already mediocre.

[tdSKINS1]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Yes. His greatest ability was his speed. People get slower as they get older and he's lost 2 years while in jail.

Besides, he could not have been practicing and working out at a high level. The NFL is very competitive, it requires year-round work, and no one can expect to take 2 years off and still be at the same level. And, sadly for him, his level in the passing game was already mediocre.

Sadly for him? Dude are you an NFL talent evaluator. Of course its competitive of course its hard. But you actually think he has sat on his ass and not done anything to help his body out? OK I've heard so much on how is passing is whatever who gives a shit he still can win ball games he has proven that on so many occasions. He is a playmaker who cares how he gets it done. Throw all the statistics you want about how bad he is at passing who cares he still can win.