republicans, is this helping, or hurting your party

dmek25 · 05-21-2009, 05:40 PM

Timeline: What Cheney's been saying lately
Americans couldn't get Dick Cheney to say anything while in office. now, they cant keep him quiet. is he helping the cause? i see him as a bitter, same old views( that helped to contribute to some of the mess we are in) old politician. but maybe you look at it differently? thoughts?

firstdown · 05-21-2009, 05:47 PM

I see him as defending their position and why is Obama holding on to the info we gained from waterboarding when he just released what torture was used? Maybe because people willl see it did infact save lives.

I say maybe Obama should tell Biden to keep his mouth shut.

dmek25 · 05-21-2009, 05:51 PM

first, you just spoke like a politician. meaning, you never answered the question

GMScud · 05-21-2009, 06:38 PM

I guess it's not hurting our party:

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - CNN Poll: Favorable opinion of Dick Cheney on the rise « - Blogs from CNN.com

dmek25 · 05-21-2009, 06:50 PM

Is Cheney’s uptick due to his visibility as one of the most outspoken critics of the Obama administration? Almost certainly not,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “Former President George W. Bush's favorable rating rose six points in that same time period, and Bush has not given a single public speech since he left office.”
taken from the article. i guess since they aren't in power, they cant mess anything up

GMScud · 05-21-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

Is Cheney’s uptick due to his visibility as one of the most outspoken critics of the Obama administration? Almost certainly not,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “Former President George W. Bush's favorable rating rose six points in that same time period, and Bush has not given a single public speech since he left office.”
taken from the article. i guess since they aren't in power, they cant mess anything up

Right you are. That's the current administration's job now.

Also keep in mind that it could be a sign of some buyers' remorse on the part of those who voted for Obama/Biden.

70Chip · 05-22-2009, 12:02 AM

If Cheney want's to speak, it's his right. Democrats shouldn't be vexed by his high profile, since he's so widely hated. And yet it seems to vex them anyway.

saden1 · 05-22-2009, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

If Cheney want's to speak, it's his right. Democrats shouldn't be vexed by his high profile, since he's so widely hated. And yet it seems to vex them anyway.

Not me, I love seeing him out there though if I was given the opportunity to perform CPR on him in an emergency I would decline.

Schneed10 · 05-22-2009, 10:10 AM

I see Cheney's outspoken views on this as strengthening the party.

I can't see the logic in making the details of interrogation tactics used in Gitmo public. Doesn't that just give the enemy knowledge of what we're doing? You can train to handle those situations, you know.

I can't knock Obama for ending certain practices, that's his choice as president. But why make it public? What purpose does that serve?

Schneed10 · 05-22-2009, 10:12 AM

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Not me, I love seeing him out there though if I was given the opportunity to perform CPR on him in an emergency I would decline.

Further evidence of the absurd bipartisan divide in this country. You're basically saying you'd treat a fellow American - of an opposing view - just as you'd treat one of America's enemies.

That's ridiculous and makes me sad to have you as an American.

CRedskinsRule · 05-22-2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by saden1

Not me, I love seeing him out there though if I was given the opportunity to perform CPR on him in an emergency I would decline.

It does seem absurd, this is twice, Rush and Cheney, recently where your rhetoric has been very antagonistic. I really am shocked by your disregard of someone's life because they hold a different, but within the range of our political dialogue, point of view then you.

I don't quite get it, you at one point really lambasted me for not being scared or whatever towards the end of time, but yet you somehow see allowing the death of a fellow American that you could save. I don't get it

Miller101 · 05-22-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Further evidence of the absurd bipartisan divide in this country. You're basically saying you'd treat a fellow American - of an opposing view - just as you'd treat one of America's enemies.

That's ridiculous and makes me sad to have you as an American.

Dude! We're talking about Richard Cheney! You know the same guy that tried to have a dude's wife killed! The same guy that shot a "friend" in the face and got the "friend" to apologize to him! The same guy that gives a no bid multi billion dollar contract to his company! The same guy that committed war crimes against his enemy!

I could go on and on, but the fact remains that the world is better off without him! And you can quote me on that!

firstdown · 05-22-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by saden1

Not me, I love seeing him out there though if I was given the opportunity to perform CPR on him in an emergency I would decline.

Why so much hate? First Rush now Chenney that you want to see dead.Funny how the left seems to be filled with so much hate but then they preach why can't we all get along. I never heard anyone here that seem to be a REP. speak of people on the left dying.

firstdown · 05-22-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Miller101

Dude! We're talking about Richard Cheney! You know the same guy that tried to have a dude's wife killed! The same guy that shot a "friend" in the face and got the "friend" to apologize to him! The same guy that gives a no bid multi billion dollar contract to his company! The same guy that committed war crimes against his enemy!

I could go on and on, but the fact remains that the world is better off without him! And you can quote me on that!

The face of the left shows its ugly head again and again.

CRedskinsRule · 05-22-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Miller101

Dude! We're talking about Richard Cheney! You know the same guy that tried to have a dude's wife killed! The same guy that shot a "friend" in the face and got the "friend" to apologize to him! The same guy that gives a no bid multi billion dollar contract to his company! The same guy that committed war crimes against his enemy!

I could go on and on, but the fact remains that the world is better off without him! And you can quote me on that!

ignoring the rest of the diatribe, at least acknowledge the fact that they were enemies of OUR country

05-21-2009, 05:40 PM	#1
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	republicans, is this helping, or hurting your party Timeline: What Cheney's been saying lately Americans couldn't get Dick Cheney to say anything while in office. now, they cant keep him quiet. is he helping the cause? i see him as a bitter, same old views( that helped to contribute to some of the mess we are in) old politician. but maybe you look at it differently? thoughts? __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

05-21-2009, 05:47 PM	#2
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 60 Posts: 15,817	Re: republicans, is this helping, or hurting your party I see him as defending their position and why is Obama holding on to the info we gained from waterboarding when he just released what torture was used? Maybe because people willl see it did infact save lives. I say maybe Obama should tell Biden to keep his mouth shut.

05-21-2009, 05:51 PM	#3
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: republicans, is this helping, or hurting your party first, you just spoke like a politician. meaning, you never answered the question __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

05-21-2009, 06:38 PM	#4
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,626	Re: republicans, is this helping, or hurting your party I guess it's not hurting our party: CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - CNN Poll: Favorable opinion of Dick Cheney on the rise « - Blogs from CNN.com __________________ Tardy

05-21-2009, 06:50 PM	#5
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: republicans, is this helping, or hurting your party Is Cheney’s uptick due to his visibility as one of the most outspoken critics of the Obama administration? Almost certainly not,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. “Former President George W. Bush's favorable rating rose six points in that same time period, and Bush has not given a single public speech since he left office.” taken from the article. i guess since they aren't in power, they cant mess anything up __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

05-22-2009, 12:02 AM	#7
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Re: republicans, is this helping, or hurting your party If Cheney want's to speak, it's his right. Democrats shouldn't be vexed by his high profile, since he's so widely hated. And yet it seems to vex them anyway. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

05-22-2009, 10:10 AM	#9
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,421	Re: republicans, is this helping, or hurting your party I see Cheney's outspoken views on this as strengthening the party. I can't see the logic in making the details of interrogation tactics used in Gitmo public. Doesn't that just give the enemy knowledge of what we're doing? You can train to handle those situations, you know. I can't knock Obama for ending certain practices, that's his choice as president. But why make it public? What purpose does that serve? __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

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