Ultimate Building Blocks: NFC East

[Stuck in TX]

If we make the playoffs and JC has a pro bowl season I can't see us going after Rivers. Not sure I like this list though. Ware is incredibly overrated and Eli? Come on. He chokes more than he performs. I liked that ESPN article on JC. I hope to God he has a breakthrough season but if he does not, we can almost all agree that even the greatest QB of all time could not survive the tumultuous ride that JC has endured. Taking into account how he handled it all says alot about him... anyways my point is if he for some reason has a subpar season here, he will make us feel very sorry for ourselves when another team signs him to a little three year deal and he goes crazy like Brees did.

[MTK]

Yeah and if Ware is overrated with 20 sacks, I sure hope Orakpo can be just as overrated.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Yeah and if Ware is overrated with 20 sacks, I sure hope Orakpo can be just as overrated.

I think, when I said overrated, a lot of people read "what! He doesn't think Ware is good?"

Well, Mosley wrote this:

He's the most dynamic defender in the league right now.

The. Most. Dynamic. Defender.

That's painful to read. He's got a bunch of holes in his game. I don't think he has a hole in terms of rushing the passer. I think he takes a few plays off on the pass rush, but again, that's not uncommon for someone at that position. It does suggest, however, that he's not all that different from any other well-intentioned pass rusher.

And 20 sacks, well, that's a pretty impressive total from a pretty darned good pass rusher. So if he's going to "take his game to the next level", that means what, 23 sacks?

Okay, I call the under! Who wants to bet me on that one? D'BOYZ? $100 right now to put your money where your mouth is. I'm good for it.

[D'BOYZ]

Analyst can't say your team is going to make the playoffs because all the teams in the division improved a divison that was already tough.

Yes NY lost their biggest weapon in Plaxico in this might hurt them we don't know how their WR are going to pann out but their defense is just scary they get Osi back and got Canty there also I don't know if they're goign to even need Eli to find the next plaxico they can be like the 2000 Ravens and just let the defense win the games for them.

Philly got 1 of the best LT in the game a freaking cry baby overated in my point of view but if he plays like 2 years ago and not like last year when he was crying about his contract they got a good one plus they got the WR and The RB that McNabb has been asking for the past 10 years.

Dallas who know's.... They let the problem in the lockroom go but also their best offensive weapon... They got 3 great RB's but how they're going to use them I don't know they got a lot of talent oon Defense but in December they always seem to gas out. They got a great QB that chokes in the late run.... The talent is there but I don't know if the focus and heart is there to make it in a tought Division.

Washington improved their Defense which was a huge concern but still has question marks in Offense you guys have a great TE top 5 in my book a great RB and a lot of WR that don't show up every game... Moss has some great and bad years and games he can be complete domminat one week and dissapear the next. and last year two rookie WR jsut didn't show up let's see if one offseason does the deal. Campbell can be a great QB but he might not do it as a Redskin, he might be the next Drew Bress a QB that shines in the next team... the front office doesn'ttrust him anymore and that's huge the fact that thye tried to deal him not once but twice this offseason says a lot.

Now stop with the pipedream of gettign Rivers and/or Merriman that just wont happen and I would bet anyone that just wont happen..... if somebody points out you got Heynsworth he got a clause in his contract That Tennessee couldn't franchise him again that's why you got him... either Rivers or Merriman will get an extension this year and the other is getting franchised sorry.

[Daseal]

Dallas who know's.... They let the problem in the lockroom go but also their best offensive weapon... They got 3 great RB's but how they're going to use them I don't know they got a lot of talent oon Defense but in December they always seem to gas out. They got a great QB that chokes in the late run.... The talent is there but I don't know if the focus and heart is there to make it in a tought Division.

I keep hearing 'addition by subtraction' from the whole TO thing, but ask a Giants fan what happened to their running game when Plax went out. Having that stud WR is huge for opening up the running game -- wish we had one.

In my opinion, Dallas' season hinges on two players. Roy Williams stepping up to be a #1 receiver. Tony Romo becoming consistent and the leader of that team.

[Schneed10]

Just like a QB's impact on a team is often overstated (it's a team game after all), TO's overall negative impact on a team is also overstated.

Yes he's a monumental pain in the ass. But the guy is an amazing player and someone you have to gameplan for. There's no way the Cowboys got better by subtracting Owens. They'll only be better if Roy Williams (or someone else) steps up and plays like superstud TO (without being the pain in the ass).

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Just like a QB's impact on a team is often overstated (it's a team game after all), TO's overall negative impact on a team is also overstated.

Yes he's a monumental pain in the ass. But the guy is an amazing player and someone you have to gameplan for. There's no way the Cowboys got better by subtracting Owens. They'll only be better if Roy Williams (or someone else) steps up and plays like superstud TO (without being the pain in the ass).

And I'm pretty sure I heard last week that Romo, particularly Romo to Roy Williams, has been looking pretty piss poor at Cowboys camp.

Not so worried about the Cowboys this year. Eagles and Giants on the other hand...

[MTK]

I totally agree that losing TO is going to hurt them on the field. Yeah they will have a huge distraction and media whore off their hands, and maybe Romo will feel less pressure since he won't have to feed the ball to him all game long, but not having TO is a big advantage for opposing defenses. Now they can focus in on Witten more.

[MTK]

Williams could go down as a monster bust if he doesn't step it up.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Williams could go down as a monster bust if he doesn't step it up.

I think you can already chalk it up. He's the most overrated player in the NFL. Terrible trade by Dallas IMO.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think you can already chalk it up. He's the most overrated player in the NFL. Terrible trade by Dallas IMO.

Most overrated really? More so than Asante Samuel or DeMarcus Ware??

Seriously though, you think he's the most overrated in the entire league? Not sure I agree there.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Most overrated really? More so than Asante Samuel or DeMarcus Ware??

Seriously though, you think he's the most overrated in the entire league? Not sure I agree there.

I do. The knock on him is he doesn't work at his craft and it shows up in his numbers. He's had one good year since he's been in the pro's. He almost reminds me of Michael Westbrook. This year it's put up or shut up for Williams.

[53Fan]

GTripp...I don't know what to say, other than, I love where you're coming from.

[D'BOYZ]

So you think Orakpo without doing anything in the league deserves to be more on that list that Ware the runnerup for DPOY REALLY? Funny

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

So you think Orakpo without doing anything in the league deserves to be more on that list that Ware the runnerup for DPOY REALLY? Funny

Nah. Orakpo made my list because I wanted a prospect on my building blocks list, since neither Haynesworth or Tuck is young. Not because I think he's entitled to be a better player than Ware. Not at all what I was saying.

I think he can become a better player than Ware, but it will take time. Thus, you know, the point of a list about "building blocks".