Colt Brennan Says He'll "Play A Ton" In The Preseason

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

So a top 5 defense isnt good enough for us to win?

I think a top five defense is plenty good enough to win.

If we had a top five defense last year, we would have won 10 or 11 games and made the playoffs.

The results, of course, suggest that our defense was not top five, in either the traditional or literal sense.

[DBUCHANON101]

Our defense is better than ATL. so obviousley their offense did more to lead them to the playoffs. now what??

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Our defense is better than ATL. so obviousley their offense did more to lead them to the playoffs. now what??

I guess I'll respond on behalf of the mysterious person you are replying to in this post. You and Cowboy-fan Nflick are arguing against Jason Campbell, making it sound like he is SOLELY responsible for the Skins' offensive problems.

Yes, the ATL offense did more to lead them to the playoffs...
- ATL's o-line tied 5th for least sacks allowed
- ATL's running game was 2nd in yards and YPG
- ATL's receivers did enough to help them win games

And well ATL's defense did have more sacks than our defense.

[DBUCHANON101]

It is what it is, the offense scoring 13 pts a game over the 2nd half of the season is why we missed the playoffs. And YES it all falls on the QB. He is the one with the ball in his hands, its his job to move the team down the field and put them in position to score.
He didnt get the job done which is why the FO tried to upgrade, which is why we couldnt trade him and is the same reason why he is now in the last yr of his contract.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

It is what it is, the offense scoring 13 pts a game over the 2nd half of the season is why we missed the playoffs. And YES it all falls on the QB. He is the one with the ball in his hands, its his job to move the team down the field and put them in position to score.
He didnt get the job done which is why the FO tried to upgrade, which is why we couldnt trade him and is the same reason why he is now in the last yr of his contract.

Previously the Giants looked into trades for Eli Manning. Manning is also in the last year of his contract. Following your logic, the Giants do not see Eli as a capable franchise qb. This is ludicrous.

[DBUCHANON101]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Previously the Giants looked into trades for Eli Manning. Manning is also in the last year of his contract. Following your logic, the Giants do not see Eli as a capable franchise qb. This is ludicrous.

I dont like Eli, i think he is avg at best but the fact is on the biggest stage when his team needed a score he got the job done. and he played very well during the playoff run btw.. i think i just threw up in my mouth a little bit. ugh

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

I dont like Eli, i think he is avg at best but the fact is on the biggest stage when his team needed a score he got the job done. and he played very well during the playoff run btw.. i think i just threw up in my mouth a little bit. ugh

Dude, you were arguing that the Redskins FO, like you, does not like JC. I pointed out that the same facts that you cited would reveal that the Giants don't want Eli. I didn't ask for your opinion on Eli. You were asked to wake up to the fact that your argument was flawed.

Don't change the argument midstream!

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Dude, you were arguing that the Redskins FO, like you, does not like JC. I pointed out that the same facts that you cited would reveal that the Giants don't want Eli. I didn't ask for your opinion on Eli. You were asked to wake up to the fact that your argument was flawed.

Don't change the argument midstream!

He and nick have changed the argument so many times, it is ridiculous.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

It is what it is, the offense scoring 13 pts a game over the 2nd half of the season is why we missed the playoffs. And YES it all falls on the QB. He is the one with the ball in his hands, its his job to move the team down the field and put them in position to score.
He didnt get the job done which is why the FO tried to upgrade, which is why we couldnt trade him and is the same reason why he is now in the last yr of his contract.

Ok then let him play and stop bitching about him. There is nothing you can do and say that is going to change that. At least you're not wishing injury upon him. However, you need to say that this statement is YOUR opinion and you have no facts to support the fact that Jason Campbell is the ONE and ONLY reason why the team missed the playoffs. If you say that this is all your biased opinion, then I'll let you rant in peace. However, don't come here and make a half-ass argument with cherry-picked facts and tell me that you have a solid argument.

I'm not a JC apologist and trust me, I'll be the first one to demand his benching if the team has a losing record during the first half of the season. But I also don't pull facts out of my ass to make ridiculous arguments.

[DBUCHANON101]

So lets recap, I showed JC's scouting report that said he
1.Holds the ball too long
2.sees half the field, hence misses open wr's
3. Is too quick to checkdown when we need a play
Then, I post a clip from NFL Network where they backed this up with video proof.

Then ppl say Colt and Chase are 'system' Qbs and wont be anygood so i go find a clip from an interview with the offensive assistant where he said they were both doing very well and i get accused of cherry picking for some reason that i still dont understand.

to sum it all up, JC has not been consistant, when we needed him to drive this team for a score rarely did he do so. Other than the Saints game i cant remember one off hand.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

So lets recap, I showed JC's scouting report that said he
1.Holds the ball too long
2.sees half the field, hence misses open wr's
3. Is too quick to checkdown when we need a play
Then, I post a clip from NFL Network where they backed this up with video proof.

Then ppl say Colt and Chase are 'system' Qbs and wont be anygood so i go find a clip from an interview with the offensive assistant where he said they were both doing very well and i get accused of cherry picking for some reason that i still dont understand.

to sum it all up, JC has not been consistant, when we needed him to drive this team for a score rarely did he do so. Other than the Saints game i cant remember one off hand.

Dude, you produced a scouting report on JC that was 4 years old. Then you produced a video of Solomon Wilcot's opinion. None of this is very strong evidence for your points.

You were accused of cherry-picking because that is what you did repeatedly. You ignored the evidence against your argument and dug for your own favorite stats to support you. That is cherry-picking.

As for your quotes about Colt and Chase, you got them from an interview on Redskins.com in which there is no way Chris would say anything bad about anyone. He could have thought that Chase was a loser due for a cut soon, but in that venue his words were going to be all flowers and sunshine.

Finally, besides the Saints game, JC drove us for an important score late in the 49ers game. It wasn't his fault that the defense then collapsed.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Finally, besides the Saints game, JC drove us for an important score late in the 49ers game. It wasn't his fault that the defense then collapsed.

But we had a top 4 defense!! Clearly, JC was jinxing them from the sidelines.

Is JC a great QB? No. Will he be? dunno.

I am certain that nothing nick or dbuch has produced proves anything other than that they don't like JC.

[SmootSmack]

JoeRedskin is on fire today!

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

JoeRedskin is on fire today!

No s**t! Give me some of what you're having Joe. Good stuff!

[DBUCHANON101]

Putting Campbell in Flacco's spot, Campbell would have taken the Ravens to the Superbowl. Flacco who was 13 of 30 in the Championship game w/ 2 INT's and No TD's.

:yeahright