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Old 08-19-2009, 10:06 PM   #1
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Re: What has Obama done well?

I had to think long and hard about this one. But there were a couple of things the Obama administration has done that I agree with...

No more DEA raids on dispensers of medical marijuana and he cut funding for the absurd "abstinence only" programs.

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Old 08-20-2009, 11:34 AM   #2
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first, you seem intent on ripping Obama every chance you get. how about you naming some things that your President( Bush) did right? and the B.J. thing with Clinton, you approved of his presidency, other then that?
OK Demek25 I have a positive for Obama. While watching the guys put new windows in my house I thought about the $1500 tax break I will get because of Obama. So his tax break for up grading windows is something he has done well/right. I get a tax break and the window guy gets the job. SS answered the Bush ? for me and no I was not a big fan of Clintons. The one thing with Clinton is that the Rep had control of congress so Clinton could only do but so much.
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Old 08-20-2009, 02:19 PM   #3
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OK Demek25 I have a positive for Obama. While watching the guys put new windows in my house I thought about the $1500 tax break I will get because of Obama. So his tax break for up grading windows is something he has done well/right. I get a tax break and the window guy gets the job. SS answered the Bush ? for me and no I was not a big fan of Clintons. The one thing with Clinton is that the Rep had control of congress so Clinton could only do but so much.
I got new windows under the Bush administration and they were deducted off my yearly taxes...is that what you are referring to, or was there an actual program to give you a tax break as well as you will get the deductions on your yearly taxes? Or a separation of the two? I am confused on that.
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Old 08-20-2009, 03:05 PM   #4
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I got new windows under the Bush administration and they were deducted off my yearly taxes...is that what you are referring to, or was there an actual program to give you a tax break as well as you will get the deductions on your yearly taxes? Or a separation of the two? I am confused on that.
I think the Obama deal is a true tax credit instead of just a write off. For example if I owe 3000 next year before my tax break when its applied I will only owe 1500. Under the Bush plan I really would only save at my current tax rate. So if I claimed 1000 for windows then that is not counted as income and I save 300 if I was at a tax rate of 30%. Under Obama's plan I can write off 30% of the total cost up $1500.
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Old 08-19-2009, 04:16 PM   #5
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I voted for Obama and think he's done a reasonably good job thus far. First and foremost, I am pretty convinced that Bush and Obama brought us back from the brink of the Great Depression II. We were staring down a deep abyss and, although we spent a lot of money on our lifeline (i.e., the various stimulus packages), it was likely a necessary evil.

That said, I don't agree with everything he's done and plans to do. For example, I like the idea of universal health care coverage, but I see this latest effort as a "bridge too far." We're facing record deficits, fighting two wars, and just coming out of the worst economic collapse since the Great Depression. Whether the goals are laudable is irrelevant; the entitlement spending being contemplated by any iteration of the health care plan is exhorbitant. I also feel uncomfortable with the bailout of the auto industry. Whereas we could not have afforded to watch the banking system collapse, I think we would have been okay had we let inefficient auto companies file for bankruptcy and reorganize on their own.

But, I must say, that the right is doing a major disservice to itself by waging an ugly war against Obama. Sure, the left did it to Dubya, but two wrongs don't make a right. Calling Obama unAmerican or Hitler, or blasting him for bowing to king, is childish and, frankly, stupid. Talking about recession, carrying firearms to town hall protests, or talking about "watering the tree of liberty" is repulsive and, ultimately, will push moderates to the left.
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I voted for Obama and think he's done a reasonably good job thus far. First and foremost, I am pretty convinced that Bush and Obama brought us back from the brink of the Great Depression II. We were staring down a deep abyss and, although we spent a lot of money on our lifeline (i.e., the various stimulus packages), it was likely a necessary evil.

That said, I don't agree with everything he's done and plans to do. For example, I like the idea of universal health care coverage, but I see this latest effort as a "bridge too far." We're facing record deficits, fighting two wars, and just coming out of the worst economic collapse since the Great Depression. Whether the goals are laudable is irrelevant; the entitlement spending being contemplated by any iteration of the health care plan is exhorbitant. I also feel uncomfortable with the bailout of the auto industry. Whereas we could not have afforded to watch the banking system collapse, I think we would have been okay had we let inefficient auto companies file for bankruptcy and reorganize on their own.

But, I must say, that the right is doing a major disservice to itself by waging an ugly war against Obama. Sure, the left did it to Dubya, but two wrongs don't make a right. Calling Obama unAmerican or Hitler, or blasting him for bowing to king, is childish and, frankly, stupid. Talking about recession, carrying firearms to town hall protests, or talking about "watering the tree of liberty" is repulsive and, ultimately, will push moderates to the left.
Good post. I concur.

I want to see a more rapid withdrawl from Iraq at this point. Giving them control was a step toward that, but it cannot happen soon enough. I feel that if Obama is successfull with that then he can chalk up a win in my book. If he does not get the majority of US troops out of Iraq within the next 6 months to a year I will be very disappointed. He said August 2010, so we will see.

Once the troops are home it will cut down on a major national expense, which should make some deficit clock watchers happy.
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:53 AM   #7
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I voted for Obama and think he's done a reasonably good job thus far. First and foremost, I am pretty convinced that Bush and Obama brought us back from the brink of the Great Depression II. We were staring down a deep abyss and, although we spent a lot of money on our lifeline (i.e., the various stimulus packages), it was likely a necessary evil.

That said, I don't agree with everything he's done and plans to do. For example, I like the idea of universal health care coverage, but I see this latest effort as a "bridge too far." We're facing record deficits, fighting two wars, and just coming out of the worst economic collapse since the Great Depression. Whether the goals are laudable is irrelevant; the entitlement spending being contemplated by any iteration of the health care plan is exhorbitant. I also feel uncomfortable with the bailout of the auto industry. Whereas we could not have afforded to watch the banking system collapse, I think we would have been okay had we let inefficient auto companies file for bankruptcy and reorganize on their own.

But, I must say, that the right is doing a major disservice to itself by waging an ugly war against Obama. Sure, the left did it to Dubya, but two wrongs don't make a right. Calling Obama unAmerican or Hitler, or blasting him for bowing to king, is childish and, frankly, stupid. Talking about recession, carrying firearms to town hall protests, or talking about "watering the tree of liberty" is repulsive and, ultimately, will push moderates to the left.
Good post, and not because you voted for Obama either. You mentioned that the bailouts started under Bush, a fact some of my conservative brothers don't bring up when they talk about deficit spending, but hammer away at President Obama as if he caused the financial crisis. The initial signs seem to have had a somewhat positive effect on the banking industry. I say somewhat because there are still too many banks failing at a rapid pace, which isn't a good sign.

On a somewhat related note, it looks like the president will reappoint Ben Bernanke as Fed Chairman. I think it's a good move. You want a steady hand on the tiller in times like these.
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Old 08-20-2009, 01:49 PM   #8
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One good thing, IMO, is that he got the F-22 canceled.

In my opinion, just like UHC should wait, so should advanced fighters/weapon systems.
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Old 08-20-2009, 04:26 PM   #9
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One good thing, IMO, is that he got the F-22 canceled.

In my opinion, just like UHC should wait, so should advanced fighters/weapon systems.
Agree with the cancellation of the F-22, but because it was a very costly program and the Joint Strike Fighter F-35 will be more cost-effective and provide more capabilities than the F-22 and be fully operational within a few years.

Advanced weapons systems are what keeps us free. We can argue politcal views all day long, but it's because of these systems that we keep the right to do that.
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Agree with the cancellation of the F-22, but because it was a very costly program and the Joint Strike Fighter F-35 will be more cost-effective and provide more capabilities than the F-22 and be fully operational within a few years.

Advanced weapons systems are what keeps us free. We can argue politcal views all day long, but it's because of these systems that we keep the right to do that.
I agree to disagree, not worth going off-topic again. Note, I did not say to abolish forever though.
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Old 08-21-2009, 10:53 AM   #11
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Agree with the cancellation of the F-22, but because it was a very costly program and the Joint Strike Fighter F-35 will be more cost-effective and provide more capabilities than the F-22 and be fully operational within a few years.

Advanced weapons systems are what keeps us free. We can argue politcal views all day long, but it's because of these systems that we keep the right to do that.
Yeah, but the F22 is sooo coool

My sister is stationed at Eglin AFB and sent me this photo of the F35 in testing:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ennett/F35.jpg
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Old 08-21-2009, 03:37 PM   #12
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Yeah, but the F22 is sooo coool

My sister is stationed at Eglin AFB and sent me this photo of the F35 in testing:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ennett/F35.jpg
That's an awesome pic. It makes a great desktop wallpaper too. Thx.
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When out fishing one day I had a Stelth bommer fly right over the boat at a low altitude. The cool part was we had our back to the plane as it approached and did not even hear it until it was passing.
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Old 08-21-2009, 02:32 PM   #14
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Way to contribute dblanch66
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A few good reads here:

Obama Snares Palin, Media in Wide Blame-Game Net: Caroline Baum - Bloomberg.com

Obama Needs Confidence Boost - George's Bottom Line

Charlie Cook: Dem situation has 'slipped completely out of control' - The Scorecard - POLITICO.com
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