What has Obama done well?

[Miller101]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I guess you said the same thing for 8 years to all the people who bitched and protested Bush even before he took office. Funny thing was Bush always said those people had the right to protest and Obama and the left now say the right should just shut up. Last time I looked I have the right to say as I feel and thats my freedom which seems now like the left would like to take that away now that they are in office. I'll be glade to shut up when the policies pushed by Obama do not affect my life and my income. By the way last time I check the hispanic comunity coming here has no money so how will they pay the 9 trillion of dept. With our money that we have run out of?

Exactly my point firstdown!!!!! EXACTLY! Remember back when Obama did his budget, the Republicans said 'no'. Obama said what do you mean 'no', no what? Republicans said 'no'. Obama, a little bit frustrated, said.......okay do you have any ideas?. Republicans, 'NO'. Obama then says, "just shut up". You see, thats my whole point. Obama is trying to communicate with them, but is using words that are just a little bit to big. He needs to simplify it. "Shut up" is a simple word. Thats what Republicans get and thats what they remember. Obama needs to find those little words and use them! Then he has bipartisanship. Thats going to be a challenge. I don't know if he can do it myself, but we'll see.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Miller101

Exactly my point firstdown!!!!! EXACTLY! Remember back when Obama did his budget, the Republicans said 'no'. Obama said what do you mean 'no', no what? Republicans said 'no'. Obama, a little bit frustrated, said.......okay do you have any ideas?. Republicans, 'NO'. Obama then says, "just shut up". You see, thats my whole point. Obama is trying to communicate with them, but is using words that are just a little bit to big. He needs to simplify it. "Shut up" is a simple word. Thats what Republicans get and thats what they remember. Obama needs to find those little words and use them! Then he has bipartisanship. Thats going to be a challenge. I don't know if he can do it myself, but we'll see.

This is about as dumb of a post as I have read here in a long time. The example you gave was the stimulas bill and not the budget. I guess you say that the rep. are doing the same thing with health care and providing no insite?

[dmek25]

so first, i guess you were against the patriot act? since you are worried about your freedoms? i get the feeling you might be one of those not in my back yard types

[joethiesmanfan]

1796
Public Land Act of 1796 authorized Federal land sales to the public in minimum 640-acre plots at $2 per acre of credit.

SOCIALISM

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

1796
Public Land Act of 1796 authorized Federal land sales to the public in minimum 640-acre plots at $2 per acre of credit.

SOCIALISM

Does that come with a mule?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

1796
Public Land Act of 1796 authorized Federal land sales to the public in minimum 640-acre plots at $2 per acre of credit.

SOCIALISM

LOOOOOOL....good one. These people decrying socailisim have implicitly and explicitly benefited. Forthermore if you ask most of these loons what's the difference between socialism and communism they wouldn't be able to tell you.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by saden1

LOOOOOOL....good one. These people decrying socailisim have implicitly and explicitly benefited. Forthermore if you ask most of these loons what's the difference between socialism and communism they wouldn't be able to tell you.

Neither would most of the "loons" who support it. Intellectual deficiency isn't constrained to some conservatives. There's plenty o' dumb people in the world who have opinions absent sufficient understanding. Hell a lot of them we've elected to office.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by saden1

LOOOOOOL....good one. These people decrying socailisim have implicitly and explicitly benefited. Forthermore if you ask most of these loons what's the difference between socialism and communism they wouldn't be able to tell you.

From Wikapedia

Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels used the terms socialism and communism interchangeably, and posited that it would be achieved via class struggle and a proletarian revolution

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

From Wikapedia

Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels used the terms socialism and communism interchangeably, and posited that it would be achieved via class struggle and a proletarian revolution

Nice try but no dice. Mr. Marx and Engels disliked socialism hence communism which they thought to be superior. It's all there in The Communist Manifesto if you care to find out (very short read).

You can't use something you lambaste (socialism) interchangeably with something you champion (communism).

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by saden1

Nice try but no dice. Mr. Marx and Engels disliked socialism hence communism which they thought to be superior. It's all there in The Communist Manifesto if you care to find out (very short read).

You can't use something you lambaste (socialism) interchangeably with something you champion (communism).

The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) was a constitutionally socialist state that existed in Eurasia from 1922 to 1991

Again, taken from Wikapedia. Take it up with them. It seems interchangable to me. Maybe on paper socialist control less and each country is different, but it's still the left wing.

Do you also subscribe to the belief that Fascism is a right wing ideology? Are you still reading the Communist Manifesto? That is so old hat, like Nietzsche and Kate Chopin.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

I'll take 640 acres for $1,280 please. Thank you.

[joethiesmanfan]

RECIPE for SOCILAISM i.e Bush\Cheney aka credit default swaps

If Obama was a SOCIALIST then GWB gave him the perfect opportunity to hatch his evile plan bwahahahaha. The best plan for socialism would have been to.

A. Not use TARP wait to borrow the money later.
B. Allow the economy panick to continue citing the deficit. Until the economey collapses (Great Depression 2).
C. Instant socialism, every one in line for your bread and soup handed out by the government.
D. Eveyone recieve your unemployment check, and since there are no jobs in sight sign up for jobs by the government, instant BIG HUGE HUMONGOUS government.
E. Join the new national security detail to help control the civil unrest caused by the economic collapse
F. All gun ownership by private citizens illegal too much civil unrest threat to national security.
G. Everyone qualifies for Medicare since there are not enough jobs for private insurance to exist and make a profit at teh same time.
H. Hand out 40 year sentences (like Jake Delhomme handing out interceptons in the NFC divisonal playoffs versus the Cardinals) to all caught involved in the myriad ponzi schemes that collpased the economy. (also a perfect time to prosecute enemies who needs an email list)

The American public was bamboozled. If what the Republicans want was truly good for America then under the Republican would have kept the majority after 911, and we would be living in a free market utopia by now. To borrow money we don't have is one thing. To imagine money exists that does not really exists is another all together. This imagining money exists that does not really exist is called Irrational Exuberance by Greenspan. Those days are over, so no more 25 year-old girlfreinds for you baby boomers. We need to save the country and we have to borrow real money from people who really go it. Thanks W.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

RECIPE for SOCILAISM i.e Bush\Cheney aka credit default swaps

If Obama was a SOCIALIST then GWB gave him the perfect opportunity to hatch his evile plan bwahahahaha. The best plan for socialism would have been to.

A. Not use TARP wait to borrow the money later.
B. Allow the economy panick to continue citing the deficit. Until the economey collapses (Great Depression 2).
C. Instant socialism, every one in line for your bread and soup handed out by the government.
D. Eveyone recieve your unemployment check, and since there are no jobs in sight sign up for jobs by the government, instant BIG HUGE HUMONGOUS government.
E. Join the new national security detail to help control the civil unrest caused by the economic collapse
F. All gun ownership by private citizens illegal too much civil unrest threat to national security.
G. Everyone qualifies for Medicare since there are not enough jobs for private insurance to exist and make a profit at teh same time.
H. Hand out 40 year sentences (like Jake Delhomme handing out interceptons in the NFC divisonal playoffs versus the Cardinals) to all caught involved in the myriad ponzi schemes that collpased the economy. (also a perfect time to prosecute enemies who needs an email list)

The American public was bamboozled. If what the Republicans want was truly good for America then under the Republican would have kept the majority after 911, and we would be living in a free market utopia by now. To borrow money we don't have is one thing. To imagine money exists that does not really exists is another all together. This imagining money exists that does not really exist is called Irrational Exuberance by Greenspan. Those days are over, so no more 25 year-old girlfreinds for you baby boomers. We need to save the country and we have to borrow real money from people who really go it. Thanks W.

Since when were Republicans not socialist?

[joethiesmanfan]

That's what they claim. Socialism = evil = Obama. We are not socialist.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

That's what they claim. Socialism = evil = Obama. We are not socialist.

They can claim anything that they want. Bush was a socialist. Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive Republican too. It's nothing new.