I Was impressed!!!

53Fan · 08-30-2009, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

I respectfully (potentially) disagree. In his postgame comments Colt said that he should have led the receiver more on his pick. However, the lesson to be learned was that he never should have thrown that ball to begin with. Some folks are too arrogant to ever learn. Look at Favre - he still sometimes makes stupid rookie throws. I hope that I am wrong about Colt but he makes few comments which lead me to believe that he has the humility to learn.

You could be right Lotus. I guess there's a fine line between confidence and arrogance. Sometimes these type of things can help one see the difference, hopefully it will with Colt. I would give him more time myself. He really hasn't played alot since he's been here. He doesn't play scared (but he does need to be more cautious) and he is pretty accurate. I'm just not ready to give up on him. I think Zorn can get through to him, Hassleback has seemed pretty arrogant at times too.

Lotus · 08-30-2009, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 53Fan

You could be right Lotus. I guess there's a fine line between confidence and arrogance. Sometimes these type of things can help one see the difference, hopefully it will with Colt. I would give him more time myself. He really hasn't played alot since he's been here. He doesn't play scared (but he does need to be more cautious) and he is pretty accurate. I'm just not ready to give up on him. I think Zorn can get through to him, Hassleback has seemed pretty arrogant at times too.

You are correct. And I'm not giving up on him, either. I'm "concerned," though.

confidence: I can get the job done well but I'd like to do even better
arrogance: I can get the job done well so get out of my face with your criticism

53Fan · 08-30-2009, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

You are correct. And I'm not giving up on him, either. I'm "concerned," though.

confidence: I can get the job done well but I'd like to do even better
arrogance: I can get the job done well so get out of my face with your criticism

Understandably. That was a very, very bad decision to throw that ball that went for the INT. He just needs to understand that instead of throwing it better, sometimes it's better to throw it away or not throw it at all. If he doesn't get to that point, he'll never make it as a pro QB.

DBUCHANON101 · 08-30-2009, 12:43 AM

Yeah i realize you are right, lets cut this guy NOW so we can move on.

Redskin Jim · 08-31-2009, 01:43 AM

I'm not going to quote anybody.... I'm going to simply ask that NO MATTER what happened before this season, Judge Campbell on this years performance. WE HAVE NO ONE BETTER TO PLAY QB!!!! that said, I will be surprised if soup can pull out an 8-8 record... Soups' decision making process runs as fast as chilled molases...

tootergray34 · 08-31-2009, 01:55 AM

JC can be good if people give him a chance, watch, he'll have a breakout year and leave and win a couple rings and people will be saying...man why didn't we hang on to that guy.

that said, i wouldnt' mind seeing tim tebow in a skins uniform, i hear a lil guy named danny snyder is in love with him.

redskinslick · 08-31-2009, 10:31 AM

I hope we can resign JC after the break out year we're going to have.lil Timmy T. down in Florida would just set us back another 3-5 years.

hail_2_da_skins · 08-31-2009, 11:20 AM

Get off Jason Campbell's back! He is the best quarterback the Redskins have. He had a very good performance, against a very good team in regular season conditions. What more do you need to see? There are people on this site that would criticize him if he led the Redskins to the playoffs. Yet these same people defend Colt Brennan after two major bonehead plays. In my book, Colt is playing his way into being cut. The nice pass to Marko Mitchell does not make up for the interception and sack in the Red Zone. Interceptions happen but you have to be more decisive in the Red Zone. Cannot allow a potential score turn into a score the other way. The quarterback has to be aware when they are in scoring position to not take a sack. Colt's awareness in the Red Zone is highly questionable. To me, his job is on the line. He better not make any of those same bonehead plays in the last game against Jacksonville.

Jay Schroeder · 08-31-2009, 11:37 AM

I'm happy about everything the first team o and d did except obviously for the play of Hall.
This has me extremely worried. I'm envisioning teams exploiting this glaring weakness all season now.
Seems like a team with any speed/size at wideout can just run shotgun, spread the field and exploit Hall...
I mean I know its Ratio Randy, dude is a monster, second best wideout in the game but that was horrible.
What do you guys think?

firstdown · 08-31-2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Schroeder

I'm happy about everything the first team o and d did except obviously for the play of Hall.
This has me extremely worried. I'm envisioning teams exploiting this glaring weakness all season now.
Seems like a team with any speed/size at wideout can just run shotgun, spread the field and exploit Hall...
I mean I know its Ratio Randy, dude is a monster, second best wideout in the game but that was horrible.
What do you guys think?

Well you also have to add it is also Brady tossing him the ball. If I'm correct on the second TD Hall was in position it was that Moss went up and made the play.

Jay Schroeder · 08-31-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Well you also have to add it is also Brady tossing him the ball. If I'm correct on the second TD Hall was in position it was that Moss went up and made the play.

Agreed

I'm just worried about teams negating any pass rush with the shotgun spread offense and burning our corners.
Like someone said earlier I hope hall gets more safety help over the top on certain receivers.
Just seems like a weakness that teams will notice and expose. I don't see anyone running up the middle on us, but teams with certain personnel will give us fits, I can already see it happening.
Hopefully our offense can contribute

Monkeydad · 08-31-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Well you also have to add it is also Brady tossing him the ball. If I'm correct on the second TD Hall was in position it was that Moss went up and made the play.

No, Hall stayed with him, but Moss made a move in the route and got inside of Hall. There was no way Hall could reach the ball or get through Moss. Great in-route move by Moss, I have to admit it. But, it doesn't make me worry about Hall's coverage...most CBs have trouble covering Moss. Hall stayed with him speed-wise, but just got beat by a nice move, a smart move.

Jay Schroeder · 08-31-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster

No, Hall stayed with him, but Moss made a move in the route and got inside of Hall. There was no way Hall could reach the ball or get through Moss. Great in-route move by Moss, I have to admit it. But, it doesn't make me worry about Hall's coverage...most CBs have trouble covering Moss. Hall stayed with him speed-wise, but just got beat by a nice move, a smart move.

Yeah I hear you, if he hadn't gotten beat twice like that I wouldnt be worried...

I dont know what the safety was doing, but I hope he wasnt playing the run on the Pats...

Defensewins · 08-31-2009, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Schroeder

Yeah I hear you, if he hadn't gotten beat twice like that I wouldnt be worried...

I dont know what the safety was doing, but I hope he wasnt playing the run on the Pats...

CB Freddie Smoot started on the other side in place of injured C. Rogers. The safeties were helping Smoot over the top.
It is preseason and they probably wanted to test and see if Hall could handle Moss in man coverage. Not many Cb's in the NFL can single cover Randy Moss. The problem is the Pats have Randy Moss, Wes Welker and Joey Galloway, with Brady throwing it to them. Who do you double? Moss will be doubled next time.
I do see a problem with our depth at CB and few other positions. Barnes and Tryon are young and can not be counted on right now.

jdlea · 08-31-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay Schroeder

Yeah I hear you, if he hadn't gotten beat twice like that I wouldnt be worried...

I dont know what the safety was doing, but I hope he wasnt playing the run on the Pats...

He didn't get beat for both touchdowns. The first one was on him because he bit on a double move and Randy got position. I'm actually encouraged that he got deeked by Moss and stayed in the shot, much less staying in the best position he could.

The second touchdown, however, looked like zone. Regardless, it was Landry that Moss ran by on the second TD.

08-30-2009, 12:43 AM	#4
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: I Was impressed!!! Yeah i realize you are right, lets cut this guy NOW so we can move on. __________________ But there's booze in the blender. And soon it will render. That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

08-31-2009, 01:43 AM	#5
Redskin Jim Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA- via VA Age: 48 Posts: 710	Re: I Was impressed!!! I'm not going to quote anybody.... I'm going to simply ask that NO MATTER what happened before this season, Judge Campbell on this years performance. WE HAVE NO ONE BETTER TO PLAY QB!!!! that said, I will be surprised if soup can pull out an 8-8 record... Soups' decision making process runs as fast as chilled molases... __________________ Hail to The REDSKINS

08-31-2009, 01:55 AM	#6
tootergray34 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 681	Re: I Was impressed!!! JC can be good if people give him a chance, watch, he'll have a breakout year and leave and win a couple rings and people will be saying...man why didn't we hang on to that guy. that said, i wouldnt' mind seeing tim tebow in a skins uniform, i hear a lil guy named danny snyder is in love with him.

08-31-2009, 10:31 AM	#7
redskinslick Camp Scrub Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 55	Re: I Was impressed!!! I hope we can resign JC after the break out year we're going to have.lil Timmy T. down in Florida would just set us back another 3-5 years.

08-31-2009, 11:20 AM	#8
hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 70 Posts: 868	Re: I Was impressed!!! Get off Jason Campbell's back! He is the best quarterback the Redskins have. He had a very good performance, against a very good team in regular season conditions. What more do you need to see? There are people on this site that would criticize him if he led the Redskins to the playoffs. Yet these same people defend Colt Brennan after two major bonehead plays. In my book, Colt is playing his way into being cut. The nice pass to Marko Mitchell does not make up for the interception and sack in the Red Zone. Interceptions happen but you have to be more decisive in the Red Zone. Cannot allow a potential score turn into a score the other way. The quarterback has to be aware when they are in scoring position to not take a sack. Colt's awareness in the Red Zone is highly questionable. To me, his job is on the line. He better not make any of those same bonehead plays in the last game against Jacksonville. __________________ "HAIL TO THE SKINS"

08-31-2009, 11:37 AM	#9
Jay Schroeder Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 114	Re: I Was impressed!!! I'm happy about everything the first team o and d did except obviously for the play of Hall. This has me extremely worried. I'm envisioning teams exploiting this glaring weakness all season now. Seems like a team with any speed/size at wideout can just run shotgun, spread the field and exploit Hall... I mean I know its Ratio Randy, dude is a monster, second best wideout in the game but that was horrible. What do you guys think?

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