Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams)

53Fan · 09-20-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Zorn strikes me as someone who overthinks everything and thus comes up with wrong answers sometimes. He needs to chill.

Completely agree Lotus. I mentioned this in another thread. It doesn't need to be rocket science, he needs to stop outsmarting himself and keep it simple. When it comes to the redzone, he's complicating it more than it needs to be.

skinsfan69 · 09-20-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

This is the only legitimate coaching change that has a chance to work IMHO. I don't think any great coaches out there will work for Snyder; however Shanahan is a money man through and through and might do it for something ridiculous like $10 mil/year.

That said I think Zorn is toast regardless in the long run. He's an awful playcaller. Don't tell me he's great between the redzones because it's no more relevant in the NFL than what color socks players wear. Scoring is all that matters and Zorn has no idea how to create TDs. Sure our redzone execution was shitty between Sellers, Moss and maybe Thomas. It's Zorn's job to find a way.

...I think the answer is to put the ball in Jason's hands. I want him calling plays. I want him making adjustments at the LOS. I want him running the offense...he'll make the offense better. Keep Zorn or dump him and make Buges the interim HC...either way is fine as long as Jason runs the offense the way he wants.

I agree 100 freaking %. But Zorn's ego will get in the way.

Lotus · 09-20-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor

I'm officially waiting on Mike Shanahan to come on in and fix this offense right away. He will completely change this offense into a scoring machine. I thought Zorn would be alright but he does not have a clue. It just make me wonder if Campbell is the problem with the offense. Maybe Campbell is not showing that he knows the playbook good enough to call certain plays. Just a guess! We have too much talent on both sides of the ball to be mediocre. We need to start a petition to get rid of Zorn and Blache. If I see our cornersback play 10 yards again on a 3rd and 5 again I will completely lose it.

You do realize that, post-Elway, Shanahan did not win all that much and his offenses often struggled, don't you?

skinsfan69 · 09-20-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor

I'm officially waiting on Mike Shanahan to come on in and fix this offense right away. He will completely change this offense into a scoring machine. I thought Zorn would be alright but he does not have a clue. It just make me wonder if Campbell is the problem with the offense. Maybe Campbell is not showing that he knows the playbook good enough to call certain plays. Just a guess! We have too much talent on both sides of the ball to be mediocre. We need to start a petition to get rid of Zorn and Blache. If I see our cornersback play 10 yards again on a 3rd and 5 again I will completely lose it.

The defense gave up 7 and got a crucial turnover. That's the least of our worries.

JPPT1974 · 09-20-2009, 09:36 PM

No wonder his last name is Smoot, because of smooting them down!

JWsleep · 09-20-2009, 09:48 PM

Everything's going to be fine. We'll be better in the redzone as the season progresses. Reinhart will be an effective replacement for RT and will justify his 3rd rounder status. Moss will have some big games. Portis will get into a groove and will also still be fresh late in the year. JC will hit the long bomb. We'll work out the kinks in the O during this easy stretch of games, and come on strong in November this year, as opposed to ruling September and then fading. The D will get progressively more dominant as they get to know each other. We'll be fine.

Tired of all this. The glass is half full. Hang in there, folks.

T.O.Killa · 09-20-2009, 10:05 PM

I am starting to think that JC will be looking at a new offensive system soon.

skinsfan69 · 09-20-2009, 10:15 PM

Can someone tell me how an NFL team has one freakin running play? I mean we don't sweep, trap, counter. Where is the Al Saunders sweep play??? lol.

GusFrerotte · 09-20-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Can someone tell me how an NFL team has one freakin running play? I mean we don't sweep, trap, counter. Where is the Al Saunders sweep play??? lol.

Not a fan of sweeps in the pros, but we do need traps and counters.

T.O.Killa · 09-20-2009, 10:20 PM

Am I the only one that noticed that when ever a team starts showing the blitz, and JC audibles the play never works.

Chico23231 · 09-20-2009, 10:54 PM

Bottom line is if anyone is happy with this offense, they need to get their head examined. I dont care how many long drives, what JC completion percentage is, what Zorn is calling, blah blah blah ect...This was against argueably the worse team in the league and we couldnt score. To win in this league we need to get the ball in the end zone. Just check our division. Sh*t even the Eagles were putting the ball in the end zone with a pretty bad QB today. Everybody is responsible. In my opinion the offense hasnt score a legitimate touchdown so far. Zorn should give up the play calling if this crap doesnt change in the next couple games.

T.O.Killa · 09-20-2009, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Bottom line is if anyone is happy with this offense, they need to get their head examined. I dont care how many long drives, what JC completion percentage is, what Zorn is calling, blah blah blah ect...This was against argueably the worse team in the league and we couldnt score. To win in this league we need to get the ball in the end zone. Just check our division. Sh*t even the Eagles were putting the ball in the end zone with a pretty bad QB today. Everybody is responsible. In my opinion the offense hasnt score a legitimate touchdown so far. Zorn should give up the play calling if this crap doesnt change in the next couple games.

Man, we did not even score enough field goals.

Ruhskins · 09-20-2009, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Bottom line is if anyone is happy with this offense, they need to get their head examined. I dont care how many long drives, what JC completion percentage is, what Zorn is calling, blah blah blah ect...This was against argueably the worse team in the league and we couldnt score. To win in this league we need to get the ball in the end zone. Just check our division. Sh*t even the Eagles were putting the ball in the end zone with a pretty bad QB today. Everybody is responsible. In my opinion the offense hasnt score a legitimate touchdown so far. Zorn should give up the play calling if this crap doesnt change in the next couple games.

I don't think anyone is happy with our offense.

Beemnseven · 09-20-2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Bottom line is if anyone is happy with this offense, they need to get their head examined. I dont care how many long drives, what JC completion percentage is, what Zorn is calling, blah blah blah ect...This was against argueably the worse team in the league and we couldnt score. To win in this league we need to get the ball in the end zone. Just check our division. Sh*t even the Eagles were putting the ball in the end zone with a pretty bad QB today. Everybody is responsible. In my opinion the offense hasnt score a legitimate touchdown so far. Zorn should give up the play calling if this crap doesnt change in the next couple games.

That's not going to happen. If Zorn willingly gives up playcalling then he'd be signing his own pink slip.

SouperMeister · 09-20-2009, 11:15 PM

My bigger problem in the red zone than the plays is the personnel packages that Zorn is using. On several occasions inside the 10, Zorn took Kelly out of the game. You have got to be kidding. Kelly is only our biggest target, and supposedly has the best hands on the team. He should NEVER be out of the game when we're inside the opponent's 10.

09-20-2009, 09:36 PM	#5
JPPT1974 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 492	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams) No wonder his last name is Smoot, because of smooting them down! __________________ *May Day, May the 4th Be With You, Memorial Day & Mother's Day 2026!*

09-20-2009, 09:48 PM	#6
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 57 Posts: 4,719	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams) Everything's going to be fine. We'll be better in the redzone as the season progresses. Reinhart will be an effective replacement for RT and will justify his 3rd rounder status. Moss will have some big games. Portis will get into a groove and will also still be fresh late in the year. JC will hit the long bomb. We'll work out the kinks in the O during this easy stretch of games, and come on strong in November this year, as opposed to ruling September and then fading. The D will get progressively more dominant as they get to know each other. We'll be fine. Tired of all this. The glass is half full. Hang in there, folks. __________________ Hail from Houston!

09-20-2009, 10:05 PM	#7
T.O.Killa The Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, MD Posts: 2,061	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams) I am starting to think that JC will be looking at a new offensive system soon.

09-20-2009, 10:15 PM	#8
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,584	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams) Can someone tell me how an NFL team has one freakin running play? I mean we don't sweep, trap, counter. Where is the Al Saunders sweep play??? lol.

09-20-2009, 10:20 PM	#10
T.O.Killa The Starter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, MD Posts: 2,061	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams) Am I the only one that noticed that when ever a team starts showing the blitz, and JC audibles the play never works.

09-20-2009, 10:54 PM	#11
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 35,307	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams) Bottom line is if anyone is happy with this offense, they need to get their head examined. I dont care how many long drives, what JC completion percentage is, what Zorn is calling, blah blah blah ect...This was against argueably the worse team in the league and we couldnt score. To win in this league we need to get the ball in the end zone. Just check our division. Sh*t even the Eagles were putting the ball in the end zone with a pretty bad QB today. Everybody is responsible. In my opinion the offense hasnt score a legitimate touchdown so far. Zorn should give up the play calling if this crap doesnt change in the next couple games.

09-20-2009, 11:15 PM	#15
SouperMeister Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 61 Posts: 3,419	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Rams) My bigger problem in the red zone than the plays is the personnel packages that Zorn is using. On several occasions inside the 10, Zorn took Kelly out of the game. You have got to be kidding. Kelly is only our biggest target, and supposedly has the best hands on the team. He should NEVER be out of the game when we're inside the opponent's 10.

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