Campbell's numbers dont lie

GTripp0012 · 10-02-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I wouldn't be shocked to see Campbell starting in Arizona next year (assuming he's not starting here and KW has retired).

And if Mike Shanahan is our head coach I can almost guarantee you we will talk to the Cardinals about Matt Leinart. Shanahan really likes Leinart.

(If Gruden is the coach it's a more remote possibility)

Campbell would be a perfect scheme fit in the Whisenhunt system.

And I like him in the WCO, but whereas Leinart is sort of a square peg there, Campbell's the prototype.

SmootSmack · 10-02-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Campbell would be a perfect scheme fit in the Whisenhunt system.

And I like him in the WCO, but whereas Leinart is sort of a square peg there, Campbell's the prototype.

The Whisenhunt system developed under Cowher and derived of course from...the Gibbs system.

Thoughts on Leinart here? It truly could happen

jamf · 10-02-2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The Whisenhunt system developed under Cowher and derived of course from...the Gibbs system.

Thoughts on Leinart here? It truly could happen

I don't think he is a Charlie Casserly type guy!

GTripp0012 · 10-02-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The Whisenhunt system developed under Cowher and derived of course from...the Gibbs system.

Thoughts on Leinart here? It truly could happen

Probably among the best things a Campbell-exit could end up being. If you're going to give away a guy who as done as much as Jason while his value is low, it makes sense to pick up another guy with low stock.

Leinart makes a lot more sense than either Cutler or Sanchez did from a cost perspective.

If you're talking about a one for one trade, while the only thing negative I could say (that I haven't already) is, why do I have to root for Mike Shanahan?

SmootSmack · 10-02-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Probably among the best things a Campbell-exit could end up being. If you're going to give away a guy who as done as much as Jason while his value is low, it makes sense to pick up another guy with low stock.

Leinart makes a lot more sense than either Cutler or Sanchez did from a cost perspective.

If you're talking about a one for one trade, while the only thing negative I could say (that I haven't already) is, why do I have to root for Mike Shanahan?

Well your guy Jon Gruden likes Leinart as well (liked him at least). But have we met a QB Gruden hasn't liked at some point?

Seriously though, I've had too many reputable sources tell me if Shanahan comes here two things he is very interested in are bringing his son Kyle here and making a play for Matt Leinart to think otherwise. The first step is, of course, Shanahan coming here. Which I don't have a problem with as long as he leaves that GM title behind

Lotus · 10-02-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The Whisenhunt system developed under Cowher and derived of course from...the Gibbs system.

Thoughts on Leinart here? It truly could happen

To my uneducated eyes Leinart might be one of those qb's who wakes up with serious seasoning and has a much better second half of his career than the first half. He sure has the physical skills to bring it. Then again, maybe he won't wake up, and he'll always be, well, Leinart.

MonkFan4Life · 10-02-2009, 04:13 PM

I know that I complain about his play. My reasoning is that IMO he does nothing to elevate the play of those around him. Even 2nd year receivers that are supposed to make him better. Or to force that 8th man out of the box giving your running back more room to work with. He alerts no one about the blitzes that are coming, or should I say very rarely. When he does throw the ball deep, it looks good because it arcs up high and its going far but he doesn't hit his guy with much regularity. The fade routes that end up out of bounds. The fact that you rarely see that throw that beats a DB, by throwing it before the receiver breaks. You have to play the chess match with the MLB and I cannot take that this is the one guy in the league that is told what to do everytime. That he is the guy that caoches say hey, don't throw the ball to this guy or that guy. I'm sorry, I just can't.

GTripp0012 · 10-02-2009, 05:12 PM

Also in a game that the Lions actually won, isn't it fitting that DeAngelo Hall is having the first half of his life, and London Fletcher looks horrendous (to the point of getting benched for the remainder of the Lions third drive)?

GTripp0012 · 10-02-2009, 05:29 PM

Plus, it would be the best thing to happen to Fred Davis' career.

I don't know what to think of pass protection schemes that have Davis blocking the LDE with no help in a non-blitz situation.

1) What the heck are Zorn/Bugel doing?

or

2) Todd Yoder would have been called for holding here.

Either way, he could play RT on this team. At 260 lbs.

dmvskinzfan08 · 10-02-2009, 05:36 PM

There was a thread on whether Romo as overrated and people said that he was good and they got a lot of production out of him compared to where he was drafted or not drated. Compare JC to other QBs and other players that were selected in the year he was drafted.

NFL Draft - 2005 NFL Draft Results - Round 1

1. Alex Smith 49ers (sucks)
21. Matt Jones Jags (not even a QB anymore)
24. Aaron Rodger (Good QB - got to learn from one of the best)
25. Jason Campbell (drafted after he wont National Championship)
69. Andrew Walter, QB (mediocre)
85. David Greene, QB
106 Kyle Orton, QB Purdue (doing ok in Denver's system but not spectacular)
230. Matt Cassel, QB (did well in NE's system but not so good with KC - Learned from one of the best)

I can go on..but you get the point.

htownskinfan · 10-04-2009, 03:51 PM

what do the numbers say today?

GTripp0012 · 10-04-2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by htownskinfan

what do the numbers say today?

They are about on par with the guy making his first start.

And yeah, he was pretty inaccurate. 54.5% completion percentage isn't getting it done.

Ruhskins · 10-04-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by htownskinfan

what do the numbers say today?

Campbell played a terrible game, but threw two TDs to win the game.

Redskin Warrior · 10-04-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Campbell played a terrible game, but threw two TDs to win the game.

you are rightpeople won't see it that way tho

Ruhskins · 10-04-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

you are rightpeople won't see it that way tho

Well at least Campbell haters will have a reason to bitch him out instead of stretching the truth and making shit up.

10-02-2009, 04:13 PM	#7
MonkFan4Life The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 49 Posts: 1,851	Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie I know that I complain about his play. My reasoning is that IMO he does nothing to elevate the play of those around him. Even 2nd year receivers that are supposed to make him better. Or to force that 8th man out of the box giving your running back more room to work with. He alerts no one about the blitzes that are coming, or should I say very rarely. When he does throw the ball deep, it looks good because it arcs up high and its going far but he doesn't hit his guy with much regularity. The fade routes that end up out of bounds. The fact that you rarely see that throw that beats a DB, by throwing it before the receiver breaks. You have to play the chess match with the MLB and I cannot take that this is the one guy in the league that is told what to do everytime. That he is the guy that caoches say hey, don't throw the ball to this guy or that guy. I'm sorry, I just can't. __________________ Catch me on YouTube ! http://www.youtube.com/user/DowntimeRB?feature=mhw5 The "punishment" by the league : "It's like getting a ticket for going too fast on a road a week ago and they changed the speed limit today"

10-02-2009, 05:12 PM	#8
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 38 Posts: 15,994	Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie Also in a game that the Lions actually won, isn't it fitting that DeAngelo Hall is having the first half of his life, and London Fletcher looks horrendous (to the point of getting benched for the remainder of the Lions third drive)? __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

10-02-2009, 05:29 PM	#9
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 38 Posts: 15,994	Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie Plus, it would be the best thing to happen to Fred Davis' career. I don't know what to think of pass protection schemes that have Davis blocking the LDE with no help in a non-blitz situation. 1) What the heck are Zorn/Bugel doing? or 2) Todd Yoder would have been called for holding here. Either way, he could play RT on this team. At 260 lbs. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

10-02-2009, 05:36 PM	#10
dmvskinzfan08 Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 968	Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie There was a thread on whether Romo as overrated and people said that he was good and they got a lot of production out of him compared to where he was drafted or not drated. Compare JC to other QBs and other players that were selected in the year he was drafted. NFL Draft - 2005 NFL Draft Results - Round 1 1. Alex Smith 49ers (sucks) 21. Matt Jones Jags (not even a QB anymore) 24. Aaron Rodger (Good QB - got to learn from one of the best) 25. Jason Campbell (drafted after he wont National Championship) 69. Andrew Walter, QB (mediocre) 85. David Greene, QB 106 Kyle Orton, QB Purdue (doing ok in Denver's system but not spectacular) 230. Matt Cassel, QB (did well in NE's system but not so good with KC - Learned from one of the best) I can go on..but you get the point. __________________ HTTR 09 - RIP#21 HATERS << Misery Loves Company Last edited by dmvskinzfan08; 10-02-2009 at 05:54 PM.

10-04-2009, 03:51 PM	#11
htownskinfan JUST LIVIN Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: houston,tx Age: 64 Posts: 4,935	Re: Campbell's numbers dont lie what do the numbers say today? __________________ Make The Redskins Great Again

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