Do you expect Zorn to be fired

dmvskinzfan08 · 10-14-2009, 04:27 AM

Check otu the video of Sherman SMith and Chick Hernandez on Redskins.com or CSN Washington: DC Sports Videos.

I was listening to the video of Sherman Smith with Chick. IS this dude retarded? We all here the lines if the players execute then the play will work. But I think you should be a little wiser and say. What if this play doesn't work? Chick asks about the sweep. He replied its man on man and we have to make those plays. Chick prefaced the question by saying -- Why not run up the middle? Smith says we can run up the middle or sweep if players execute. So why not run up the middle? That's is my question. He seems very stubborn. How many times have we run this play and it not worked. True if you execute it will work. But we were playing a very good defensive line and were coming out of our end zone. So I would think you would want to run up the middle instead of a sweep. They need to stop playing finesse ball and play smash mouth. This is not the AFC Mr. Smith. This is the NFC and we are in the NFC East. I just think this guy is a stubborn idiot. Maybe he is the problem. Like they say don't keep doing the same thing and expect different results. Just simply retarded

BigHairedAristocrat · 10-12-2009, 12:56 PM

thanks smoot, so you were there? i knew you had connections, but i didnt think you were a member of the press.

SmootSmack · 10-12-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

thanks smoot, so you were there? i knew you had connections, but i didnt think you were a member of the press.

Well I'm a member of the media, but not on the press side (not anymore at least).

But anyway, no I wasn't there. But when I watch the press conference on television I watch it through a "raw feed" so basically I can hear and see what's going on at the press conference before and after what you see on tv and online.

RedskinRat · 10-12-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well I'm a member of the media.....<SNIP>

I *KNEW* it! SS is Illuminati/lizard/grey!

REDSKINS1980 · 10-12-2009, 01:07 PM

Don't be surprised if Zorn is fired after the Kansas City Game, I feel that Snyder will not want to be embarrassed any further by getting demolished at home against the Philadelphia Eagles.

MTK · 10-12-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by REDSKINS1980

Don't be surprised if Zorn is fired after the Kansas City Game, I feel that Snyder will not want to be embarrassed any further by getting demolished at home against the Philadelphia Eagles.

The bye makes sense only because it gives the team some extra time to put a new guy in place. It won't happen after the KC game.

JGisLordOfTheRings · 10-12-2009, 01:10 PM

Well, I'm going to the KC game so it's a lock that win that one. Maybe he gets fired anyway.

DynamiteRave · 10-12-2009, 02:18 PM

The way I feel about Zorn is this: After the loss yesterday I saw one thing I thought I'd never see a coach do; hang his head. Right out on the sidelines with the last few seconds ticking away. NOT good. Simply put, it was a man defeated. It looked like all his will and hope got sucked out of him while each second ticked away. Then he went into the press conference and B.Mitch put it best... And I know most people want Mitch's head on a stake around here, but he said that every time Zorn goes to the press conference he goes to answer the questions of the press. So what does he do? He answers the questions. So. It's not that Zorn is doing the wrong thing, as B.Mitch put it, he's doing his job. But it feels like he's just going through the motions. I feel like Zorn is doing what he does, because he has to do it. I'll say it, I don't think he has the love of HCing or the passion to do it. I feel like he's coaching because that's what they paid him to do so... He's gonna do it. There's no personality to him. And you don't have to be boisterous and throwing chairs angry, but you gotta have some sort of... Oomph to you. Zorn doesn't have that. I can't remember the last time he did have that. That "Hip hip hooray" moment last year? Gibbs had it almost all the time. I don't ever think I ever saw Gibbs hang his head, at least not in front of the cameras. Hanging your head means you've given up on not only yourself, but your players. Players hang their head after the game but your coach is supposed to be your rallying cry, the one who won't let you hang your head even if your loss was incredibly embarrassing. When your coach is out there hanging their head with you? Something is extremely wrong.

Overall Zorn is in way over his head and someone needs to start hitting the brakes (or at least consider it) on this runaway train before we crash. Maybe Zorn has the potential to be a good HC someday, but IMO I think he's lacking some of the core of HC fundamentals (other ones that I didn't talk about but I'm sure you can throw a few out there).

Monkeydad · 10-12-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

The way I feel about Zorn is this: After the loss yesterday I saw one thing I thought I'd never see a coach do; hang his head. Right out on the sidelines with the last few seconds ticking away. NOT good. Simply put, it was a man defeated. It looked like all his will and hope got sucked out of him while each second ticked away. Then he went into the press conference and B.Mitch put it best... And I know most people want Mitch's head on a stake around here, but he said that every time Zorn goes to the press conference he goes to answer the questions of the press. So what does he do? He answers the questions. So. It's not that Zorn is doing the wrong thing, as B.Mitch put it, he's doing his job. But it feels like he's just going through the motions. I feel like Zorn is doing what he does, because he has to do it. I'll say it, I don't think he has the love of HCing or the passion to do it. I feel like he's coaching because that's what they paid him to do so... He's gonna do it. There's no personality to him. And you don't have to be boisterous and throwing chairs angry, but you gotta have some sort of... Oomph to you. Zorn doesn't have that. I can't remember the last time he did have that. That "Hip hip hooray" moment last year? Gibbs had it almost all the time. I don't ever think I ever saw Gibbs hang his head, at least not in front of the cameras. Hanging your head means you've given up on not only yourself, but your players. Players hang their head after the game but your coach is supposed to be your rallying cry, the one who won't let you hang your head even if your loss was incredibly embarrassing. When your coach is out there hanging their head with you? Something is extremely wrong.

Overall Zorn is in way over his head and someone needs to start hitting the brakes (or at least consider it) on this runaway train before we crash. Maybe Zorn has the potential to be a good HC someday, but IMO I think he's lacking some of the core of HC fundamentals (other ones that I didn't talk about but I'm sure you can throw a few out there).

Wow. Did not see the game (only painful highlights) or the post-game conference, but this is sad.

You're right though.

REDSKINS1980 · 10-12-2009, 02:27 PM

well said

GhettoDogAllStars · 10-12-2009, 02:36 PM

Since there weren't any "Hell No" or "God I Hope Not" options, I had to just go with "No".

KLHJ2 · 10-12-2009, 02:41 PM

Jim Zorn is only 1 game back from .500. There are still 11 games left this season. There is still time to turn around. There is no need for a knee jerk reaction and fire him at anytime during the season. Just let him finish it out and have a chance to right the ship (since everybody want to compare a football team to a boat these days). It can't get any worse and if nothing else an experience like this will build some character. In Jim Zorn’s defense he has the hardest job in the NFL and he hasn't thrown the towel in like some other NFL head coach who couldn't even make it through one season in Atlanta. The man is fighting his guts out but he is stuck in quicksand. Let him finish the job that he is getting paid to do.

Trample the Elderly · 10-12-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry

Jim Zorn is only 1 game back from .500. There are still 11 games left this season. There is still time to turn around. There is no need for a knee jerk reaction and fire him at anytime during the season. Just let him finish it out and have a chance to right the ship (since everybody want to compare a football team to a boat these days). It can't get any worse and if nothing else an experience like this will build some character. In Jim Zorn’s defense he has the hardest job in the NFL and he hasn't thrown the towel in like some other NFL head coach who couldn't even make it through one season in Atlanta. The man is fighting his guts out but he is stuck in quicksand. Let him finish the job that he is getting paid to do.

If the team was a ship: The Captain would be counter flooding to stop the listing from the three fish that already went in. He knows that there's not much he can do, the boilers are out. The best seaman are exhausted from trying to put out the fires and reinforcing bulk-heads.

The owners of the ship are baffled. In their eyes the good ship lollipop had good enough armour (1 inch) to stop torpedos and a great AA battery. Radar/Sonar, bah, that's witch craft!

REDSKINS1980 · 10-12-2009, 02:46 PM

wow, you must be the only surviving Zorn supporter on here. Yes one game from .500. This year the skins were given a gift with the cupcake schedule. Easily could have gone 5-1. The schedule will not get any easier.

Monkeydad · 10-12-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by REDSKINS1980

wow, you must be the only surviving Zorn supporter on here. Yes one game from .500. This year the skins were given a gift with the cupcake schedule. Easily could have gone 5-1. The schedule will not get any easier.

That's what is scary.

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10-14-2009, 04:27 AM	#1
dmvskinzfan08 Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 968	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired Check otu the video of Sherman SMith and Chick Hernandez on Redskins.com or CSN Washington: DC Sports Videos. I was listening to the video of Sherman Smith with Chick. IS this dude retarded? We all here the lines if the players execute then the play will work. But I think you should be a little wiser and say. What if this play doesn't work? Chick asks about the sweep. He replied its man on man and we have to make those plays. Chick prefaced the question by saying -- Why not run up the middle? Smith says we can run up the middle or sweep if players execute. So why not run up the middle? That's is my question. He seems very stubborn. How many times have we run this play and it not worked. True if you execute it will work. But we were playing a very good defensive line and were coming out of our end zone. So I would think you would want to run up the middle instead of a sweep. They need to stop playing finesse ball and play smash mouth. This is not the AFC Mr. Smith. This is the NFC and we are in the NFC East. I just think this guy is a stubborn idiot. Maybe he is the problem. Like they say don't keep doing the same thing and expect different results. Just simply retarded __________________ HTTR 09 - RIP#21 HATERS << Misery Loves Company

10-12-2009, 12:56 PM	#2
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,712	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired thanks smoot, so you were there? i knew you had connections, but i didnt think you were a member of the press. __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

10-12-2009, 01:07 PM	#5
REDSKINS1980 Camp Scrub Join Date: May 2009 Location: Silver Spring, Md Posts: 69	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired Don't be surprised if Zorn is fired after the Kansas City Game, I feel that Snyder will not want to be embarrassed any further by getting demolished at home against the Philadelphia Eagles.

10-12-2009, 01:10 PM	#7
JGisLordOfTheRings Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Richmond VA Age: 40 Posts: 2,584	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired Well, I'm going to the KC game so it's a lock that win that one. Maybe he gets fired anyway. __________________ The redskins pocket is like my love life.....nonexistent and disappointing. -OnceWeWereKings

10-12-2009, 02:18 PM	#8
DynamiteRave Living Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 39 Posts: 16,867	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired The way I feel about Zorn is this: After the loss yesterday I saw one thing I thought I'd never see a coach do; hang his head. Right out on the sidelines with the last few seconds ticking away. NOT good. Simply put, it was a man defeated. It looked like all his will and hope got sucked out of him while each second ticked away. Then he went into the press conference and B.Mitch put it best... And I know most people want Mitch's head on a stake around here, but he said that every time Zorn goes to the press conference he goes to answer the questions of the press. So what does he do? He answers the questions. So. It's not that Zorn is doing the wrong thing, as B.Mitch put it, he's doing his job. But it feels like he's just going through the motions. I feel like Zorn is doing what he does, because he has to do it. I'll say it, I don't think he has the love of HCing or the passion to do it. I feel like he's coaching because that's what they paid him to do so... He's gonna do it. There's no personality to him. And you don't have to be boisterous and throwing chairs angry, but you gotta have some sort of... Oomph to you. Zorn doesn't have that. I can't remember the last time he did have that. That "Hip hip hooray" moment last year? Gibbs had it almost all the time. I don't ever think I ever saw Gibbs hang his head, at least not in front of the cameras. Hanging your head means you've given up on not only yourself, but your players. Players hang their head after the game but your coach is supposed to be your rallying cry, the one who won't let you hang your head even if your loss was incredibly embarrassing. When your coach is out there hanging their head with you? Something is extremely wrong. Overall Zorn is in way over his head and someone needs to start hitting the brakes (or at least consider it) on this runaway train before we crash. Maybe Zorn has the potential to be a good HC someday, but IMO I think he's lacking some of the core of HC fundamentals (other ones that I didn't talk about but I'm sure you can throw a few out there). __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I've been a part of this message board for 17 years. Damn I'm old.

10-12-2009, 02:27 PM	#10
REDSKINS1980 Camp Scrub Join Date: May 2009 Location: Silver Spring, Md Posts: 69	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired well said

10-12-2009, 02:36 PM	#11
GhettoDogAllStars Playmaker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Age: 44 Posts: 2,762	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired Since there weren't any "Hell No" or "God I Hope Not" options, I had to just go with "No". __________________ To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered.

10-12-2009, 02:41 PM	#12
KLHJ2 Inactive Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 48 Posts: 5,829	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired Jim Zorn is only 1 game back from .500. There are still 11 games left this season. There is still time to turn around. There is no need for a knee jerk reaction and fire him at anytime during the season. Just let him finish it out and have a chance to right the ship (since everybody want to compare a football team to a boat these days). It can't get any worse and if nothing else an experience like this will build some character. In Jim Zorn’s defense he has the hardest job in the NFL and he hasn't thrown the towel in like some other NFL head coach who couldn't even make it through one season in Atlanta. The man is fighting his guts out but he is stuck in quicksand. Let him finish the job that he is getting paid to do.

10-12-2009, 02:46 PM	#14
REDSKINS1980 Camp Scrub Join Date: May 2009 Location: Silver Spring, Md Posts: 69	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired wow, you must be the only surviving Zorn supporter on here. Yes one game from .500. This year the skins were given a gift with the cupcake schedule. Easily could have gone 5-1. The schedule will not get any easier.

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