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Old 10-14-2009, 04:52 PM   #1
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I thought there was an article that four of the OL(Samuels, Thomas, Dock, not sure who else) trained pretty hard together in AZ prior to training camp.
Heyer was there too wasn't he?
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Old 10-14-2009, 05:04 PM   #2
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Heyer was there too wasn't he?
That's the guy, I recall hearing that as well.
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:00 AM   #3
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The good news is the front office will now be forced to address the OL. LT is now the highest priority for next offseason, with RG and RT close behind.
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The good news is the front office will now be forced to address the OL. LT is now the highest priority for next offseason, with RG and RT close behind.
We're probably looking at 4 new offensive starters next year. Isn't Rabach in his walk year? Wow, things are going to be as busy as ever (if not more than ever) at old Redskins Park this spring.
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We're probably looking at 4 new offensive starters next year. Isn't Rabach in his walk year? Wow, things are going to be as busy as ever (if not more than ever) at old Redskins Park this spring.
Rabach is signed through next year
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Rabach is signed through next year
There's a clause in his contract that makes him a free agent this offseason
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There's a clause in his contract that makes him a free agent this offseason
ah ok

I could see him getting an extension to stay
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:41 AM   #8
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The good news is the front office will now be forced to address the OL. LT is now the highest priority for next offseason, with RG and RT close behind.
IMO the Giants have the best Oline in the league outside of Vikings. The Giants brought all their guys together basically around the sametime about 4-5 years ago. This could be a blessing in disguise if we take this seriously and get a young group of guys together. Im thoroughly disgusted with our FO and how this Oline issue was handled and this is the easiest reason to see why Vinny should be fired immediately. Surprised alot people who post here didnt see this coming or thought the Oline was a non-issue. So in moving on, I agree with Matt and say we need 3 new starters at on the Oline next year at LT, RT and RG. I just cant see Samuels coming back from this. Boy Reinhart, I had a feeling this guy was a joke. Good pick Vinny. Also Vinny, undrafted free agents make horrible depth and so far bad starters (Heyers).
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:50 AM   #9
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IMO the Giants have the best Oline in the league outside of Vikings. The Giants brought all their guys together basically around the sametime about 4-5 years ago. This could be a blessing in disguise if we take this seriously and get a young group of guys together. Im thoroughly disgusted with our FO and how this Oline issue was handled and this is the easiest reason to see why Vinny should be fired immediately. Surprised alot people who post here didnt see this coming or thought the Oline was a non-issue. So in moving on, I agree with Matt and say we need 3 new starters at on the Oline next year at LT, RT and RG. I just cant see Samuels coming back from this. Boy Reinhart, I had a feeling this guy was a joke. Good pick Vinny. Also Vinny, undrafted free agents make horrible depth and so far bad starters (Heyers).

The thing that scares me most is the Campbell situation. Whether or not he's the answer for the future is pointless because we can't afford using ANY of our picks on a QB; we need to save them all for the O-line. My biggest fear is Vinny using all our picks to get Clausen or trading for someone else, leaving us screwed for another year..
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:57 AM   #10
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IMO the Giants have the best Oline in the league outside of Vikings. The Giants brought all their guys together basically around the sametime about 4-5 years ago. This could be a blessing in disguise if we take this seriously and get a young group of guys together. Im thoroughly disgusted with our FO and how this Oline issue was handled and this is the easiest reason to see why Vinny should be fired immediately. Surprised alot people who post here didnt see this coming or thought the Oline was a non-issue. So in moving on, I agree with Matt and say we need 3 new starters at on the Oline next year at LT, RT and RG. I just cant see Samuels coming back from this. Boy Reinhart, I had a feeling this guy was a joke. Good pick Vinny. Also Vinny, undrafted free agents make horrible depth and so far bad starters (Heyers).
We need 3 starters, but I'll bet right now we only get 1 or 2 at the most. Next year, they'll bring in someone to start at LT, keep Heyer at RT, and will either start Thomas at RG or bring someone in. This FO has no clue how to build a great OL, so I'll almost guarantee they throw in a player at LT to try and replace Samuels (if he does retire) and let the rest ride.

It's not like this aging/injured OL is new this year. Sure, it's worse this year than it has been in the past, but Jansen, Thomas, and Samuels were injured a ton the last several years and FO didn't see the need to do any more than bring in an UDFA and replace Kendall with Dock .
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Old 10-15-2009, 10:17 AM   #11
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IMO the Giants have the best Oline in the league outside of Vikings. The Giants brought all their guys together basically around the sametime about 4-5 years ago. This could be a blessing in disguise if we take this seriously and get a young group of guys together. Im thoroughly disgusted with our FO and how this Oline issue was handled and this is the easiest reason to see why Vinny should be fired immediately. Surprised alot people who post here didnt see this coming or thought the Oline was a non-issue. So in moving on, I agree with Matt and say we need 3 new starters at on the Oline next year at LT, RT and RG. I just cant see Samuels coming back from this. Boy Reinhart, I had a feeling this guy was a joke. Good pick Vinny. Also Vinny, undrafted free agents make horrible depth and so far bad starters (Heyers).
Yeah, I heard someone ask the other day if they could name an O-line that was all that better than ours. I was confused because I can't name the starters on other people's o-line, except NYG. There are a lot of better O-lines than ours, IE: NYG, Indianapolis, just about any o-line in the NFL. There is a lot of wishful thinking in the FO and on here as well. Until those wishful thinkers are run out of the organization then it's going to be the same thing over and over again. Who couldn't see this coming a mile away? We KNEW this would happen.
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Old 10-15-2009, 11:31 AM   #12
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I say for the remainder of the year: Danny Boy at Right Tackle, Vinny at Left Tackle, and Zorn at Right Guard.
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