PFT Rumor - Joe Gibbs is Coming Back

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I doubt Joe Gibbs would be as involved as Parcells is. I'm thinking he'd be closer to a Joe Banner or Amy Trask or Ted Phillips.

If you don't know who any of those people are, that's because they aren't really known as "franchise runners". But they all basically serve as the president of different football franchises (Eagles, Raiders, Bears).

Parcells and Ireland, on the other hand, make business decisions jointly. Really doubt that would be the case here.

Plus, didn't he already right the ship here once?

Thats a much better comparison to what I think PFT was referring to than Parcells.

[Daseal]

I would like this move, IF Joe Gibbs doesn't have full control of picking players. He's not bad, but he puts too high of an emphasis on veteran players, and I think that's a big part of the reason we're in the situation we're in now. We went for older vets instead of grooming younger guys.

[PennSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I would like this move, IF Joe Gibbs doesn't have full control of picking players. He's not bad, but he puts too high of an emphasis on veteran players, and I think that's a big part of the reason we're in the situation we're in now. We went for older vets instead of grooming younger guys.

Agreed. GIbbs has absolutely no experience as a GM. As long as the deal included Gibbs hiring a professional GM, doesn't seem like a bad idea. For Snyder, Gibbs is a way to paving the wounds with fans.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

Agreed. GIbbs has absolutely no experience as a GM. As long as the deal included Gibbs hiring a professional GM, doesn't seem like a bad idea. For Snyder, Gibbs is a way to paving the wounds with fans.

As much as I love Joe Gibbs, I have to agree with you. Some of his GM like decisions were questionable at best, but a man of his integrity is an asset in just about any position he could be in your employ. Maybe he could resume his title as team president, hire a competent GM and go from there. I'm convinced having worked for Jack Cooke he knows how a team should be constructed.

[scowan]

If Gibbs comes back it just total proves that Dan Snyder knows nothing about football. Its very similar to Vinny taking play-calling away for Zorn this week. It emascualted Zorn. If Dan hires Gibbs again, he is kind of emasculating himself when it comes to football. He will be finally admiting what we all know, and that is he does not know how to own an NFL franchise. It would also mean that some day when Gibbs steps down again, that Snyder has to continue to hire GM's or Presidents or whatever you want to call the guy that actual runs the team, because it can never be Snyder again.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by scowan

If Gibbs comes back it just total proves that Dan Snyder knows nothing about football. Its very similar to Vinny taking play-calling away for Zorn this week. It emascualted Zorn. If Dan hires Gibbs again, he is kind of emasculating himself when it comes to football. He will be finally admiting what we all know, and that is he does not know how to own an NFL franchise. It would also mean that some day when Gibbs steps down again, that Snyder has to continue to hire GM's or Presidents or whatever you want to call the guy that actual runs the team, because it can never be Snyder again.

Well, hopefully, if this happened, when gibbs stepped down again, we would have had a successful GM and Head Coach in place for several years. I think that if Snyder sees success under a GM, and compares that to the disaster thats occurred over the past decade, he'd stick with the GM/HC model for years to come. Additionally, good GMs often stay in place for decades, even when head coaches come and go. So if Gibbs made a good GM hire, then hopefully the guy would be around for a long, long time. I'd love to get Ghris Polian in here. He's learned from the best and if he struggled, could always fall back on his dad for guidance.

[skinsguy]

IF this is true, then I love this move! For those who are saying they hope it isn't true, this does NOT mean Joe Gibbs would be choosing player personnel. True, he may have a hand with it, but Gibbs is responsible for hiring a legitimate GM and a good coach, then that GM will handle most of the player personnel. This is probably the ONLY thing sort of Daniel Snyder selling the team that could turn this team around. Honestly, do you think Daniel Snyder is going to pick the perfect GM for us? I would rather trust Joe Gibbs. Yes, Gibbs II wasn't as successful as what we all had hoped for, but compared to how things were before he came and afterwards, it was a huge success! So, I'm all for this! PLESAE BE TRUE!!!!

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I would like this move, IF Joe Gibbs doesn't have full control of picking players. He's not bad, but he puts too high of an emphasis on veteran players, and I think that's a big part of the reason we're in the situation we're in now. We went for older vets instead of grooming younger guys.

I'd somewhat disagree with "he's not bad". The only ones that he really 100% hit on during his tenure were Cooley & Taylor. Rogers, Campbell, Golston, Doughty, McIntosh are all contributors but are not elite at their positions. He's a bad personnel guy, I'd rather he not have any hand in choosing players at all.

[Redskin Warrior]

I think the question is will Gibbs be brought in to win NOW or REBUILD? If DS wants to win next year same thing will happen, but if the goal is to be a contender in the next 3 to 4 years I'm all for it.

[Skinny Tee]

If Snyder is so hell bent on bringing back old Skins staff to get back in the good graces of the fans why doesn't he bring Casserly back as GM?

Maybe because he knows Casserly wouldn't keep Vinny around. This all looks like Snyder is struggling to find any way for Cerrato to stay on board and have fans be fine with it.

[skinsfan69]

As long as Gibbs brings in some QUALIFIED people to run things and Snyderatto stay out of the way then I don't have a problem with this.

[MTK]

Given their close relationship I think this rumor holds some water.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Given their close relationship I think this rumor holds some water.

I will undoubtedly have to have surgery when this is all over to "un-cross" all my crossed limbs

[Hog1]

Joe is nobody's fool. His success record is legendary. Do I think he was overwhelmed upon his return to the NFL......yes. BUT Joe has undoubtedly had much time to evaluate, and assess the triumph's, and failures in Joe2. He will NO DOUBT work from that perspective.
Who rallies the team better?
WHO is better prepared to successfully deal with DanFinger? WHO has a better chance of getting Dan into the correct "role" for the team than Joe?
How much fun would it be with NO salary cap?
MAN, I hope this is true.....
To tell the truth, I gasped when I read the thread!
WHO would give more to try to get this francise back on track. I am sure he feels to some degree a sense of failure in his Joe2 stint. The type of man he is....he would probably like to fix that.
HTTR

[MTK]

Based on this rumor it sounds as if Gibbs would be in a team president type of role, he would hire a GM and help hire a coach. I don't think he would be heavily involved in personnel decisions, that's what the GM is for.

Say what you want about Gibbs 2.0, the guy knows people, he knows how to build relationships, and he values character. Basically the complete opposite of Vinny for the most part. Gibbs would add instant credibility back to the front office and give us a real shot at getting some quality football people in here.