Haynesworth Missing From Redskins Offseason Workouts

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

Big Al speaks....

Haynesworth: 'I Need To Do This'

I do really think Haynesworth would be out of position playing NT in the 3-4. Paying all that money for him to just be a space eater? That seems a bit ridiculous. If you look at true NT, they are bulkier than him and take up more horizontal space (I know this sounds ridiculous). If you look at Casey Hampton and Vince Wilfork, they are built differently than Haynesworth. Honestly, I think that has been a big flaw of the previous FO administration...trying to fit players in the wrong scheme (Orakpo as a 4-3 LB, Landry as a FS, etc., etc.). Now, Shanny and company are new and obviously are working with what they have, and probably have explored having AH at NT. But I also don't blame AH for not wanting to be in a position where he won't be productive and helpful to the team.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I do really think Haynesworth would be out of position playing NT in the 3-4. Paying all that money for him to just be a space eater? That seems a bit ridiculous. If you look at true NT, they are bulkier than him and take up more horizontal space (I know this sounds ridiculous). If you look at Casey Hampton and Vince Wilfork, they are built differently than Haynesworth. Honestly, I think that has been a big flaw of the previous FO administration...trying to fit players in the wrong scheme (Orakpo as a 4-3 DE, Landry as a FS, etc., etc.). Now, Shanny and company are new and obviously are working with what they have, and probably have explored having AH at NT. But I also don't blame AH for not wanting to be in a position where he won't be productive and helpful to the team.

I agree with you and AH. He'd be better at DE than at NT.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I do really think Haynesworth would be out of position playing NT in the 3-4. Paying all that money for him to just be a space eater? That seems a bit ridiculous. If you look at true NT, they are bulkier than him and take up more horizontal space (I know this sounds ridiculous). If you look at Casey Hampton and Vince Wilfork, they are built differently than Haynesworth. Honestly, I think that has been a big flaw of the previous FO administration...trying to fit players in the wrong scheme (Orakpo as a 4-3 DE, Landry as a FS, etc., etc.). Now, Shanny and company are new and obviously are working with what they have, and probably have explored having AH at NT. But I also don't blame AH for not wanting to be in a position where he won't be productive and helpful to the team.

Pretty sure you meant Rak at LB in the 4-3? But I see your point. Add Kris Jenkins to the list of prototype NT...that dude is wider than he is tall lol.

I think AH is smart for "casually" saying he'll prefer DE in the 3-4. Smart both because it's definitely the best spot for him in that defense and smart because he's not demanding or saying anything to come across like he's not bought in to the new regime. I tend to think Al is a pretty smart guy.

Putting him at DE in the new scheme could be awesome. It essentially means the opposing offense will struggle mightily to run left and absolutely have to designate 2 blockers to that side full time. BUT it's critical the rest of the DL is at least average to above average or we'll just watch teams run all over us to the right (their right). This Kemo guy needs to come thru and/or we need to find another legit NT AND Daniels must have a fantastic season. Preferably we need another stud there behind Daniels. Going into the off-season I would have though Zoe or Jarmon would be training as Daniels' replacement. I guess the powers that be see those two guys as LBs now? So who will back up Daniels? I mean you sure as hell can't have the mindset a 37 yr old is a sure thing through a season...

[53Fan]

Let him train with the guy that got him in pro bowl shape. He didn't last year and people complain he was out of shape. I imagine he'll be training with the new staff during the season. He made a big impact last year but we signed him to be Godzilla. If this guy gets him back in top shape, Godzilla's what we'll get.

[warpaint]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Let him train with the guy that got him in pro bowl shape. He didn't last year and people complain he was out of shape. I imagine he'll be training with the new staff during the season. He made a big impact last year but we signed him to be Godzilla. If this guy gets him back in top shape, Godzilla's what we'll get.

I agree with you. Last year was a waste of a season all around noone was committed to anything especially winning. Big AL said it to many chiefs and they showed it. Hell even CP got out as soon as he seen an opening. So only time will tell.

[diehardskin2982]

lavar is killing him right now on the radio. I hope AH hears this.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

lavar is killing him right now on the radio. I hope AH hears this.

That came out of left field...

Lavar was a role player on the only decent team that he played for here, what gives him the right to blast these guys like he does?

Big Al has certainly accomplished more on much better teams than Lavar ever did.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

lavar is killing him right now on the radio. I hope AH hears this.

typical. God I am really sick of Lavar. Little baby finding every which way to pick a bone with the Skins.

This the way I see 106.7's main weekday programs.

Junkies: Entertaining and hilarious
Wise:Quality programing without bias
Lavar and Dukes:Sour idiot rambling and jock holding sidekick
Holdin: Who?

Seriously Lavar makes Bmitch seems rational and unbias lol.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by hooskins

typical. God I am really sick of Lavar. Little baby finding every which way to pick a bone with the Skins.

This the way I see 106.7's main weekday programs.

Junkies: Entertaining and hilarious
Wise:Quality programing without bias
Lavar and Dukes:Sour idiot rambling and jock holding sidekick
Holdin: Who?

Seriously Lavar makes Bmitch seems rational and unbias lol.

Lavar def has his issues. However it's not everyday you hear a professional football player who just got 40 mil in his pocket come out and say he really wasn't in shape. So although Lavar is soup grapes he was spot on the other day. Lavar isn't the only person in the media that's commented on AH's conditioning.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Lavar def has his issues. However it's not everyday you hear a professional football player who just got 40 mil in his pocket come out and say he really wasn't in shape. So although Lavar is soup grapes he was spot on the other day. Lavar isn't the only person in the media that's commented on AH's conditioning.

Isn't that a classic athletic line? Unless an athlete is training 16 hours a day, couldn't they always be in better shape?

"In shape" is a relative term. When is a 320-360 pound man going to be "in shape"?

He was in better shape than Wilfork.

[Kalisto2010]

No wonder he's always retreating to the sidelines to suck on the oxygen tank.

[takethecake]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

lavar is killing him right now on the radio. I hope AH hears this.

lavar is an effing moron.

Big al's explanation certainly sheds some much needed light on this situation. Sure it might be better for haynesworth to practice with the rest of the team, but it seems like he knows what he's doing and at least there's no going around people's backs or any of that CP tricky business... I, personally, am not worried about him missing these workouts now.

[SmootSmack]

You'd think Haynesworth is the only player in the whole league not working out with his team.

You know Logan Mankins is sitting at home because he wants a new contract, but most Pats fans aren't that worried because it's March and they know he'll be around when needed. Unfortunately, we Redskins fans have become so enamored with spring football that we seem to forget...that it's March for crying out loud.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You'd think Haynesworth is the only player in the whole league not working out with his team.

You know Logan Mankins is sitting at home because he wants a new contract, but most Pats fans aren't that worried because it's March and they know he'll be around when needed. Unfortunately, we Redskins fans have become so enamored with spring football that we seem to forget...that it's March for crying out loud.

It's because Spring football is OUR time man, I mean c'mon

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You'd think Haynesworth is the only player in the whole league not working out with his team.

You know Logan Mankins is sitting at home because he wants a new contract, but most Pats fans aren't that worried because it's March and they know he'll be around when needed. Unfortunately, we Redskins fans have become so enamored with spring football that we seem to forget...that it's March for crying out loud.

i didn't forget it's march cause season ticket dues are due is march 1st, which kinda gives you the urge to bitch if you ask me. as far as fat al is concerned, we just have to wait and see how it pans out. if they use him more at end than nose i would beleive that would make him happier since his main thing is rushing the passer. and i would think this would allow him to have the most sacks in any season so far in his career. but thats just my opinion