Mayock Thinks Redskins Could Pass on Okung...

[SmootSmack]

The notion that the Redskins hyped up visits with guys like Berry and Bradford yet hid the fact we were meeting with Okungs is far-fetched

Okung's Advantages:

-Familiar with zone-blocking offense
-Can start at LT right away
-Consistent, reliable

Williams' Advantages

-Superior athlete
-Can play both LT and RT (something that really appeals to Shanahan)
-Potentially huge upside (but he seems to have the risk of being a bust)

Williams was considered a top prospect going into this draft but started to slip some as the Sooners struggled

At #4, I think we should go with Okung over Williams. I'd rather go for the sure thing.

[vallin21]

The only way We get Williams is if we swap 1st rd picks w/ Denver and throw in JC for Marshall. If we stay at 4 it's a lock we're taking Okung.

[LandrySlice]

I don't think we are trading picks anymore. They are gonna take Okung for sure to have a cornerstone piece of the O-Line, and then they are gonna trade players for more picks. Not sure which players, but thats my gut feeling. I like Williams, but Okung is too much of a beast to pass up.

[johno]

with having so few picks, we cant afford to miss with #4. We have to take Okung, he has got to be one of the safest picks in the draft.

[MTK]

Here's the plan:

Trade down, pick up an extra 1st rounder, send that to Denver for Marshall, and still pick up one of the top OL propsects.

Win.

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Here's the plan:

Trade down, pick up an extra 1st rounder, send that to Denver for Marshall, and still pick up one of the top OL propsects.

Win.

I think I'd pass out from excitement if that happened haha. I think Mcnabb would too if in one day you told him you got him a good young guy to protect his blindside and one of the top 5 wrs in the league to throw the ball to to go along with the targets he already has.

[tootergray34]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Here's the plan:

Trade down, pick up an extra 1st rounder, send that to Denver for Marshall, and still pick up one of the top OL propsects.

Win.

Incredible if this happens...would make me and many others extremely happy!


I'd even go back to the 2nd and perhaps get the OT from USC...I believe his name is Brown....hell i'd even take ducasse if we could get b marsh.

[JoeRedskin]

^^ Championship!!

[CultBrennan59]

Oh, it could happen if we were to trade down with someone like San Fran or Seattle. Or we could just swap first round picks with denver and get marshall that way. If we pick in the middle of the first round, we could still get Bulaga, Williams, Davis, and should definitely be able to get Charles Brown, Bruce Campbell and Roger Saffold.

[GTripp0012]

I love me some Trent Williams, but I will just present the following evidence without comment:

The main reason we landed Brian Orakpo at no. 13 in the draft last year is because a bunch of teams thought exactly like this: scheme over talent.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I love me some Trent Williams, but I will just present the following evidence without comment:

The main reason we landed Brian Orakpo at no. 13 in the draft last year is because a bunch of teams thought exactly like this: scheme over talent.

I thought it was because of injury concerns?

Edit: Injury concerns and an apparent lack of a motor:

Durability -4 - Sprained right knee during 2007 opener (Arkansas State) was an early setback. He missed the next four games as a result but did finish the season strong, including two sacks vs. ASU in Holiday Bowl. 2008: Misses Baylor game and plays sparingly versus Kansas due to left knee sprain. Also suffered hamstring strain at the Combine but recovered fully in time for late-March Pro Day workout.

Intangibles - 3 - No off-the-field issues. Works hard off-the-field, particularly in the weight room. Is a confident player but would like to see his motor run more consistently.

Trait Scale
1 = Exceptional 2 = Above average 3 = Average 4 = Below average 5 = Marginal

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I thought it was because of injury concerns?

Edit: Injury concerns and an apparent lack of a motor:

Durability -4 - Sprained right knee during 2007 opener (Arkansas State) was an early setback. He missed the next four games as a result but did finish the season strong, including two sacks vs. ASU in Holiday Bowl. 2008: Misses Baylor game and plays sparingly versus Kansas due to left knee sprain. Also suffered hamstring strain at the Combine but recovered fully in time for late-March Pro Day workout.

Intangibles - 3 - No off-the-field issues. Works hard off-the-field, particularly in the weight room. Is a confident player but would like to see his motor run more consistently.

Trait Scale
1 = Exceptional 2 = Above average 3 = Average 4 = Below average 5 = Marginal

Inconsistent motor is a scouting designation used to degrade a prospect that doesn't necessarily have anything obviously wrong.

Durability issues tend to be a lot more concrete. With that said, I wasn't under the impression that Orkapo was a huge injury risk. A lot of pundits thought he would be a fish out of water in the 3-4, ironically.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Inconsistent motor is a scouting designation used to degrade a prospect that doesn't necessarily have anything obviously wrong.

Durability issues tend to be a lot more concrete. With that said, I wasn't under the impression that Orkapo was a huge injury risk. A lot of pundits thought he would be a fish out of water in the 3-4, ironically.

Yeah, but then we saw him hold his own as a 4-3 OLB which is much harder for someone with Orakpo's skill set.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Yeah, but then we saw him hold his own as a 4-3 OLB which is much harder for someone with Orakpo's skill set.

Hence, the irony.

[CRedskinsRule]

Very good summation of Okung vs Williams.
Tale of the tape: Okung vs. Williams - NFL - Yahoo! Sports