Regulations On Salt?

[FRPLG]

Or instead of the govt regulating the salt content people could just not buy the processed foods.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Or instead of the govt regulating the salt content people could just not buy the processed foods.

Or maybe we can have our government insure that food quality isn't compromised for those who can't afford organic food.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by saden1

Or maybe we can have our government insure that food quality isn't compromised for those who can't afford organic food.

Who said anything about organic? It's called buying natural ingredients and learning to cook. It's also generally cheaper than processed food that is bad for you beyond just the salt.

I guess I didn't realize that processed food is another plight of the poor. We should all do what were told by the gov't so that poor people can avoid figuring out how to take some responsibility right? Sorry but I'm not buying that the gov't should regulate salt content of processed food because poor only buy processed food...or can only afford processed food.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Who said anything about organic? It's called buying natural ingredients and learning to cook. It's also generally cheaper than processed food that is bad for you beyond just the salt.

I guess I didn't realize that processed food is another plight of the poor. We should all do what were told by the gov't so that poor people can avoid figuring out how to take some responsibility right? Sorry but I'm not buying that the gov't should regulate salt content of processed food because poor only buy processed food...or can only afford processed food.

If it isn't organic there is nothing natural about it. Cheaper? Certainly in some cases it is but I'm pretty for the most part it isn't true. TV dinner is cheaper than making your own food. Better off people eat better food because they can afford better food not simply because they know better...this is the reality of the world.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by saden1

If it isn't organic there is nothing natural about it. Cheaper? Certainly in some cases it is but I'm pretty for the most part it isn't true. TV dinner is cheaper than making your own food. Better off people eat better food because they can afford better food not simply because they know better...this is the reality of the world.

Wanna bet? Meal for meal, yes. Made in bulk, no. My family hasn't eaten a processed meal in years and I am quite sure our budget is better off because of it. It's called a freezer and it works great for making food and then freezing it to have later. Now i will buy that processed foods are easier and faster. That can make them more attractive to lower income households headed by parents working their asses off to make ends meat. I'm still not quite sure that the gov't regulating salt is the right way to go though.

And by organic I meant those things listed as "organic" which tend to cost more. There is a clear difference in the market between organic and natural. Organic potatoes cost 30% more than just regular potatoes. I'm damn sure you're smart enough to have known that when you typed organic. I'm wondering why you seem to be arguing as if you didn't?

edit: it's a semantics argument and really irrelevant though.

[olive523]

Originally Posted by saden1

If it isn't organic there is nothing natural about it. Cheaper? Certainly in some cases it is but I'm pretty for the most part it isn't true. TV dinner is cheaper than making your own food. Better off people eat better food because they can afford better food not simply because they know better...this is the reality of the world.

well said, Saden, well said

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Or instead of the govt regulating the salt content people could just not buy the processed foods.

Because that will happen.

[celts32]

I think it's a good idea. We know salt is linked to health problems so why not try and make processed food companies use less of it. To me it aint that much different from when we determined that certain oils were more heart friendy then others. I am not sure if the govt forced it but eventually all processed food makers started using these other oils.

[FRPLG]

The other issue...totally ina different direction.

If the gov't limits salt then what happens? Either the food tastes "worse" and people buy less of it or the companies find something else to mimic the results. Most likely some chemical. Don't fool yourselves into thinking they'll make less tasty food for less of a profit. That isn't how business works. The solution to people eating crap food isn't to regulate crap food out of the market. (That can't really be done. It's a game of three-card-monte.) It's better education leading to culture change. That takes a long time and isn't nearly fast enough for progressives though apparently.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

The other issue...totally ina different direction.

If the gov't limits salt then what happens? Either the food tastes "worse" and people buy less of it or the companies find something else to mic the results. Most likely some chemical. Don't fool yourselves into thinking they'll make less tasty food for less of am profit. That isn't how business works. The solution to people eating crap food isn't to regulate crap food out of the market. (That can't really be done. It's a game of three-card-monte.) It's better education leading to culture change. That tales a long time and isn't nearly fast enough for progressives though apparently.

That's funny, I was in class when I was writing my last post, and walking between classes and thought exactly about the same thing. There will prob. be a chemical substitute.

As far as the taste difference, apparently the method for sodium reduction is a gradual decrease in sodium levels, making the taste less noticeable.

I know personally that since I've cut sodium out of my diet, something that used to be moderately salty tasting, now is offensively salty.

But yeah, you're probably right...they'll find something else.

Just for some perspective, here's the benefits of a slight decrease in sodium.

Study: Cutting salt intake would boost nation's health - CNN.com

I'm back in class so time to focus...

[saden1]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

That's funny, I was in class when I was writing my last post, and walking between classes and thought exactly about the same thing. There will prob. be a chemical substitute.

As far as the taste difference, apparently the method for sodium reduction is a gradual decrease in sodium levels, making the taste less noticeable.

I know personally that since I've cut sodium out of my diet, something that used to be moderately salty tasting, now is offensively salty.

But yeah, you're probably right...they'll find something else.

Just for some perspective, here's the benefits of a slight decrease in sodium.

Study: Cutting salt intake would boost nation's health - CNN.com

I'm back in class so time to focus...

They don't pack food with salt for taste, they do it for food preservation and their bottom line.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by saden1

They don't pack food with salt for taste, they do it for food preservation and their bottom line.

They do it for both.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

They do it for both.

Perhaps...and the other food preservatives?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

That's funny, I was in class when I was writing my last post, and walking between classes and thought exactly about the same thing. There will prob. be a chemical substitute.

As far as the taste difference, apparently the method for sodium reduction is a gradual decrease in sodium levels, making the taste less noticeable.

I know personally that since I've cut sodium out of my diet, something that used to be moderately salty tasting, now is offensively salty.

But yeah, you're probably right...they'll find something else.

Just for some perspective, here's the benefits of a slight decrease in sodium.

Study: Cutting salt intake would boost nation's health - CNN.com

I'm back in class so time to focus...

Take that title: Cutting salt intake would boost nations health.
Now insert what you like to eat and we could add another few thousand things for the feds to regulate. Why should any citizen have to read a fu#$ lable to know whats in food. Lets add booze, beer, and wine while we are thinking of our health. I guess getting those fat ass kids away from the TV for an hour a day is just asking too much.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

The other issue...totally ina different direction.

If the gov't limits salt then what happens? Either the food tastes "worse" and people buy less of it or the companies find something else to mimic the results. Most likely some chemical. Don't fool yourselves into thinking they'll make less tasty food for less of a profit. That isn't how business works. The solution to people eating crap food isn't to regulate crap food out of the market. (That can't really be done. It's a game of three-card-monte.) It's better education leading to culture change. That takes a long time and isn't nearly fast enough for progressives though apparently.

No question, it's a battle that will require keeping up with these untoward corporations. Potassium is often substituted for Sodium....reduce the amount of that too I say.